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But, doesn’t the State Auditors Office has to do in ones ability to use grammar and punctuation correctly?

Uh oh. When a labor union “mobilizes” working people, and talks about “struggle”, that’s a sure sign that it is Marxist! But how is that news, when we know that anything that even talks about class is just a stalking horse for communism?

My bolds were making fun of Red State’s paranoia, Trevor. And I guess yours.

As journalists who are dedicated to non-partisan, original daily reporting that prioritizes a balanced approach to news are wont to do.

The SEIU story actually made Fox Business news as well: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1337710160001/seiu-looks-to-hire-professional-protesters/

@3 / McGinn & SPD — McGinn will do nothing, and neither will the city council. They’re beholden to and terrified of any manner of retribution from the SPOG leadership. Nothing will change without a citizen initiative of some sort that ties the hands of the city as to the manner of contract agreement that they are allowed to engage with SPOG.

Social justice and civic groups need to do a city initiative that mandates the city is only allowed to enter into SPOG contracts that include the following;

A) Independent civilian leader/commissioner of SPD that answers to and is appointed to fixed terms by the Council. Chief position is now second in command.

B) Civilian oversight/OPA that SPD has no authority, veto, input, or control over. Fair and transparent appeals process, but the ability and authority to discipline police has to come from outside of the police department. The City Council appoints the senior staff and directors of OPA. Police have no control over who is placed in these roles.

C) Mandatory, better than state legal requirement compliance for SPD with public records requests, including those related to OPA actions.

D) Civilian oversight and review of OPA. Let each member of the Council nominate one person for a term, and the Mayor one as well. They city council as a whole signs off on each proposed member by simple majority vote. This 3rd party review board should be stakeholders with legal backgrounds that have full access to review and if needed disclose to the public and media irregularities or problems with the OPA process.

That’s how you fix it. That way SPOG has nothing they can do about it, because the city would be unable to legally enter a contract without such terms. SPOG can make all the fuss they want. Those four points aren’t there, they get no new deal. The 99.5% of SPD that are good, fine cops will be unaffected by all this. It’s the bad cops that would need to be on notice.

Are local groups going to stand up and do something since McGinn and the Council are unwilling to?

Or do we wait for the Federal government to smother SPD to death and cost the city millions?

Blue Ribbon Commission

Finally, the One Big Union is here!  I call on all the Wobblies of Seattle, both of them, to join in this historic victory of the proletariat over the bourgeois, as foretold by Red State!

Arise ye workers from your slumbers
Arise ye prisoners of want…..

Sorry I thought you were reporting, not cracking a joke. My bad.

>> Miloscia, as we reported yesterday morning, is sponsoring legislation that would require doctors to give women medically inaccurate information

Your entire linked citation:
” 2. Speaking of legislation that’s cued up for next year in Olympia, here’s some that’ll make ECB cranky: The Women’s Right to Know Act—being sponsored by seven Republicans and one Democrat (social conservative Rep. Mark Miloscia)—mandates that doctors tell women about the risks of having an abortion at least 24 hours before a scheduled abortion and that the woman must certify in writing that doctors showed her videos on the procedure and gave her info about “the probable anatomical and physiological characteristics of the unborn child at the time the abortion is to be performed, and that the abortion will end the life of the unborn child.”

#2.  Red states language
is just plain stupid; not one of them has studied Marx.  If they had said that unions are an overarching
totalitarian political party which only allows party members into power, they
would have been right on the mark.  That totalitarianism
has been the MO of people who claimed to be Marxist is the correlation.  Their dismay that the citizens of Washington State
have been duped into paying for educating members of an international union is
understandable.   At a time when we are struggling
to get our children educated, as well as those with the wherewithal to go to
college, it is doubly disturbing to me. 
For years lazy city and state administrators and politicians have been giving
unions more and more power over taxpayers. 
How many times have we heard in council something to the effect of “well
we can’t do that (something we need to) because it violates the union contract.”  And that will be the end of that.  Just recently we went through the show of
reducing a pay increase while increasing taxpayer contribution to retirements
and being told that the union gave up something while they were actually
getting more.  Josh, Erica et all ought
to to at least admit that tax payers paying to educate the members of an
international union is weird.  You can’t discriminate
based on race, religion, or horny orientation, but discrimination based on
membership in a union is just fine.

#4. The council had no business spending time and money on
the empty, ironic gesture of effectively banning plastic bags.  I would like to know how much it costs to put
on these city hall circus acts.  The
council ought to get back to the boring but more important business of fixing
the infrastructure with what they have got.

Thanks for pointing that out. Erica has a post in the queue that we never published. We will today.

I thought this web site was a comedy thing…….  Don’t tell me someone takes it serious!

According to a study, the average person drives 627,000 miles over their lifetime.  Each abortion saves 31,350 gallons a gasoline and keeps 360 tons of emissions from reaching the atmosphere.

And all along I  thought the Democratic People’s Republic
of Korea was the paranoid red state…

 in actual fact, the worker’s movements descended from marx include two branchs.  one went the peaceful/elections route — remember, at the time of marx worker’s weren’t allowed to vote even?  so one branch of the socialist international in which marx was involved later said “gee you know, if they give us the vote we don’t need violent revolution.  we can elect our chosen leaders!” and thus the social democratic and labor parties of yoorupe were born.  they won!  they basically have set up the systems in sweden scandileand france uk germany etc. today.  All those parties are in a sense marxist.

the other branch said we want violent revolution.  this became the branch that included lenin and the bolsies and that group and that ilk.

i think today it would be best if liberals, progressives and the policial chattering class in general called the social democratic parties marxist, the labor party marxist, the national health care service of the uk marxist, as in “David Camerocn today said he’d leave the marxist nationalized health care system intact.” 

and yes, a progressive income tax is marxist. 

take the sting out it you know.  distinguish gool old peaceful marsixm of the SD type from the lenin stalin maoist genocidal type, you know?  but yes, unions just saying they will struggle for a bigger piece of the pie, yup, that’s marxist.  in point of fact. 

Somehow hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars being used to bail out banks is okay, but civil disobedience to protest this is “racketeering”?!

The problem with Marxism is that like many theologies, so many questions are open ended, and can be used to justify just about anything. Because the underlying ideology demands revolution and dictatorship, the end game has been coups posing as revolutions, and dictatorships posing as workers’ states. The unfortunate thing is that the movement for human rights in this country is so self marginalized, the handful of Marxist (actually, Leninist) true believers are just enough to gun up the works, dominate the narrative, and make everyone else the target or right wing attacks. SEIU is close to what Georges Sorel advocated, who blended syndicalism and nationalism into a form palatable enough for Benito Mussolini. That is where the accurate comparison with Marxism can be found, in the interpretation by Sorel. The right wingers are only half right, people like Trevor are half wrong.

I’m betting that SPOG could use the laws governing their labor relations to overturn a citizens initiative, if it even made it to the ballot.  It would have to change the rules governing all public sector unions in the state, not just the SPOG. That won’t get any traction. But your remarks about who is responsible is right on the money.

Could they, though? My idea was an initiative that constrained what the city could agree to — nothing more.

Pretty sure they would:http://tinyurl.com/7rrbj58

Help me out here. What aspect of labor law says that a city can’t have a law which defines minimum requirements that city has to by law include in labor contracts, to enter into those contracts?

I’m not a lawyer. But you should read the section of the book mentioned above, or all of it for that matter, and decide for yourself whether or not the SPOG will attempt to block in any manner possible any curtailment of their power, legislative or otherwise. Their track record of success is worth noting. 

Of course they’d try, just like they’re making all the appropriate noises about standing up to the Justice Department right now.

That’s not the same as being legally able to do so.

You objecting to it doesn’t make it illegal either. But legality is not the issue here, it is who has the power to enforce their will vis-a-vis of what the law says in letter.

The problem is that SPOG (and unions like it) have the right to contractually bargain ALL working conditions.   Disciplinary procedures would certainly be a working condition.   If the City and SPOG (or a similar union under Washington Law), can’t agree, it is subject to binding arbitration (arbitrators are usually pro-union and their decision is based on the precedents of what other police unions have gotten) since police and firefighters can’t strike by law.   The net result is to have, public safety workers, not the taxpayers and their elected officials that pay/hire them, decide many of the policies they operate under.   I’m not saying I agree with that, but it is the world that is until state law is changed.   It blurs who the boss is and who the employee is.  It gives unelected workers a inordinate say in the public policy and even ordinances of municipalities and counties.  

That may be true, but you certainly can limit the use of invoking Garrity to obstruct investigations. You cannot argue a union has the right to violate or obstruct the Constitution either in order to maintain control over “working conditions” by obstruction constitutional investigations.

The first person fired, for cause, should be O’Neill.

Then work on getting State Law changed that shields LEO’s from prosecution in cases of willfull injury and death, and remove the automatic right to work anyhwere in this state for an LEO in repeated violation of UOF guildelines. 

These seem to be the biggest underlying issues. One can dream.

Quiet. The cancel will ban humans in Seattle.

Council.

what happened to your buddy Monster?

I really hope the people behind the bag monsters are not on any form of welfair.

busy today, a quality life is more then just publicoa faggots

*trolling publicola faggots

Because, as we all know, poor people have no right to participate in the political process. It’s all been downhill since we let anyone other than land-owning white men vote.

since you want to play the hyperbole games, pretty much yes, as the nation gets “browner” we have also gotten poorer too. 

Of course you wont see many people other then those who are white dress up as a bag monster.