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Gregoire Calls on Voters to Approve Half-Cent Sales Tax Increase

Gov. Chris Gregoire is asking the legislature to send a temporary half-cent sales tax increase to state voters.

Gregoire’s proposal would raise the sales tax temporarily from 6.5 cents to 7 cents.

It would last three years and  raise $494 million: $411 million for education, $42 million million for long-term care and developmental disability services, and $41 million for public safety.

“This is what the people are being asked to pay for with a half a penny,” Gregoire said. “I believe Washingtonians are tired of tearing down the foundation that our grandparents and parents built.”

Using education funding as an example, Gregoire made her case: “I don’t know of a Republican or Democrat that wants to cut levy equalization [between poor and rich school districts]. Well, you can’t do it without revenue.”

Gregoire said more cuts would “not reflect Washington values.”

Asked why voters would go for a tax increase now, given that they just rejected a batch of taxes in 2010, Gregoire said in 2010 voters weren’t looking at another $2 billion in cuts after already making $10 billion in cuts in the last three years. “They weren’t looking at parolees getting out early and with no supervision. They weren’t looking at no services to our most vulnerable citizens. They weren’t seeing the fact that we are shredding the budget. This is a new day.”

An animated Gregoire rushed over to a pie chart poster when asked about state employees. “I don’t know how you can say that,” she responded to a reporter who suggested that public employees’ refusal to reopen contract negotiations was the problem. Pointing to the chart, she said 19 percent of the recent cuts have come from state workers. “I’ve told CEOs this week [who've presumably argued for state workers to take cuts], ‘you try and lead a demoralized work force,’” she said loudly. “Do you want protection from parole officers? Do we want teachers for our kids? It’s time for us to spend a half a penny to invest in the future.”

Gregoire also took on the assessment that government is already taking in too much in taxes. She pointed out that in 1994, state revenue collections represented $64 for each $1,000 of personal income, but by 2010 that figure had fallen to $49.

Asked about the regressive nature of a sales tax—that is, poorer people will share more of the burden—Gregoire said, “give me an alternative.” She ran through a series of other options that she said she’d ruled out—increasing state business and occupation taxes (she said it would hurt business); a capital gains tax (she said she didn’t have the infrastructure or numbers to make the case for it); and closing tax loopholes (she dismissed the popular “$172 million” big bank fix proposed by liberals saying that once you took community banks out of the mix, which liberals support, it wasn’t worth that much). (True.)

The governor actually pitched repealing the bank exemption—for $18 million, she said—as part of a a separate $282 million proposal she made to the legislature this morning of potential money makers she thinks the legislature can go after if they believe they can get the two-thirds vote required for raising taxes or closing tax loopholes. Also on that list: increasing the B&O tax rate on oil companies with windfall profits, for $131 million. This package wouldn’t go to the voters, but Gregoire attached another list of services that could be restored if the legislature adopted the $282 million proposal.

“When was the last time we raised the sales tax in this state?” she asked rhetorically, “1983. By my Republican friend former governor John Spellman. During a recession not as deep and long as this one. This is not a partisan issue.”

(Of course, even though the state hasn’t raised the sales tax in all that time, cities, counties, and transit agencies have done so repeatedly to pay for services the state does not or will not provide, like health services for veterans, transit hours, and criminal justice. In Seattle, Gregoire’s proposal would raise the sales tax rate from 9.5 percent to 10 percent).

Gregoire is asking the legislature to make an all-cuts budget now during the special session while also approving  the sales tax proposal to send to voters for a March 13 special election. The nearly half-billion package would buy back many of the cuts, such as the up-to 17 percent cut to four-year colleges and universities. She pointed out that the state’s four-year colleges and universities have already been cut 46 percent since the recession began.

Gregoire ended the terse press conference with a joke: “Happy Thanksgiving”—a quiet reference to her all cuts alternative.

Here are the specifics of Gregoire’s proposal, including exactly what the $494 million would buy back.

Education (K-12 and higher ed):
•Stop a $100 million cut which would shorten the K-12 school year from 180 to 176 days.
•Stop a $152 million reduction to the state’s levy equalization program, which provides financial support to school districts in property poor counties. The Governor’s tiered proposal would reduce school district levy equalization payments by 10 percent to 100 percent.
•Stop a $160 million reduction in state support for higher education. The Governor’s budget would reduce support to the six public four-year colleges and universities by up to 17 percent and would cut the state’s 34 community and technical colleges by 13 percent.

Public Safety:
•Stop the early release (150 days) of offenders assessed at low to moderate risk of reoffending, including sex offenders.
•Maintain the length of post-prison community supervision for all offenders.

Human Services:
•Prevent 1,600 individuals from losing all personal care and other services, and restore service hours, for some of the most vulnerable clients whose care has been reduced over the past three years.
•Restore nearly $13 million in home care and residential provider rates.
•Invest more than $15 million in programs that keep elderly and developmentally disabled individuals in their own homes and with their families.
•Maintain the length of post-prison community supervision for all offenders. The length of supervision will be reduced to 12 months for all offenders, except sex offenders. Sex offender supervision will be reduced from 36 to 24 months.


  • Tax the 1%

    How about an income tax on the richest 1% in the state? Seems like that’s an alternative Gregoire doesn’t want to touch.

  • repete

    “when
    was the last time we raised sales tax?” 
    Every time the cost of something increases numb nut.  When the citizens stop spending, the state should follow their lead, not grab a larger chunck.

  • Blue Light

    Pony up, taxpayers.  We need to spruce up the UW for all the incoming international students.

  • Big Jim Slade

    Your leadership, Washington. Typical for Olympia, really. Sounds like a Governor out of ideas.

    Seattle/King County will have the highest or second highest sales tax in the entire country. I guess finally we are world class at something.

  • Sarajane3h

    This isn’t a solution that most Democrats will support. We already have the most regressive, unfair tax system in the country. Please try again. We need a list of choices.

  • Rob

    Not exactly profiles in courage for Gregoire.

  • FrequentPoster

    I will consider voting for it. The state’s is a deep hole, and it may well be necessary.

  • ivan

    This Democrat supports it. We already put an income tax on the richest 1 percent on the ballot, and the voters rejected it by a landslide. I’m not interested in making the perfect the enemy of the good. No one pretends that this is a long-term fix. Until and unless we can impress on the majority of voters in this state that we need to tax the rich till their fucking eyes bleed, we aren’t going to have any “list of choices.”  

  • FrequentPoster

    You seem to forget that only a couple of years ago, an income tax lost in every single county, including King.

  • Ryan

    We tried that.  It didn’t even get 40%.

    We also tried taxing soda, which has absolutely no value in your diet.  That tax went down in flames, too.

    There’s absolutely no reason to believe that this referendum would do any better than the soda tax, IMO.  If the people of Washington aren’t going to tax crap drinks, why would they put a regressive tax on everything instead?

  • ceryous

    The Legislature will not even consider this with the November election coming up. It’s cuts, cuts and more cuts. The state will pass tax increases to local jurisdictions.

    More money for lawyers, private schools and alarm companies.

  • Anonymous

    the international students pay around 3 times the tuition as in-state students… are you saying that doesn’t cover the costs of their education?

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    In King County the sales tax just dropped with the Safeco bonds paid off. What is everybody doing with that newfound wealth?

    Anyway, I hope the east half gets the opportunity to vote to fund levy equalization, or not.

  • FrequentPoster

    I tend to agree with you. A higher sales tax is a tall order. The one thing Gregoire has is credibility. She is widely seen among the general public as someone who has knocked herself out to save what she can. It’ll take a lot of persuasion, but if anyone can do it, she can. The liberal whining will probably help her, too.

  • Clyde

     I will vote for it and I will urge my friends, colleagues and legislators to support it. I’m sorry it’s regressive but the consequences of not getting new revenue into education and the social safety net are a lot more regressive.

  • Big Jim Slade

    So what happened to the lottery funds of which 100% were originally to be applied towards K-12 education … and how much did Gregoire give away to the tribes when she declared they wouldn’t have to pay taxes on casino earnings, the only state in the US in which this is the case?

    The point is she could have come out asking to close corporate and casino loopholes, but that might not play so well once this term is done and she gets kicked upstairs to a federal job.

    She’s a weak, non-proactive governor and always has been.

  • Rsusort

    The state can’t seem to find things to cut until some investigative reporter digs up the excesses — the recent article about the cell phones/non use/contracts, ferry excesses, EBT cards used in gambling establishments, etc.  I’m sure there are many more situations like this.  I think the governor needs to talk to Reuven Carlyle about the levy equilization and excess funds that continually go to Eastern Washington off the backs of King County residents.  Not only are there way too many school districts in the state, there are also payments to cities in Eastern Washington that don’t have enough money to fund their local governments because they refuse to institute any B&O taxes.  Before the governor asks for more money from Western Washington voters, Eastern Washington needs to pay their fare share.

  • Blue Light

    Why should the taxpayers of this state continue to support public institutions that their kids, increasingly, cannot access?

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    The .5% food and bev tax ended with the payoff of the Safeco bonds, and the failure of the Convention Center expansion bill.

  • Guest

    There is a reason – the soda industry mounted a huge campaign against the soda tax, which was 2 cents per 12 oz.  An across the board sales tax increase of 1/2 cent per dollar would not likely trigger such significant TV advertising buys.

  • Jefferson

    Is this entirely true?   The taxes for rental cars and hotels  and other taxes for tourists expired. Not the sales tax.

  • Bye Bye Gargoyle

    I can’t wait for her to be gone.   She is a lame duck as it is. 

  • Buzz Killington

    Did you know ‘Profiles in Courage’ is a 1955 Pulitzer Prize-winning
    biography describing acts of bravery and integrity by eight United States
    Senators throughout the Senate’s history?  Yes, the book profiles senators who
    crossed party lines and/or defied the public opinion of their constituents to
    do what they felt was right and suffered severe criticism and losses in
    popularity because of their actions.

  • Anonymous

    If you can afford a boondoggle Tunnel to permanently remove capacity and access from our urban core and taxbase, you need better prioritization skills. Yeah, the transportation dollars in the right pocket are “completely separate” from those in the left pocket…

  • Rob

    No he’s just trying to find an angle to blame immigrants.  That’s his schtick.

  • BigDonLives

    credibility?  bwhahahahahahah

  • Cascadian

    I will vote for it. That said, this is a crappy option that demonstrates a complete lack of leadership from Governor Gregoire. 

    First of all, tax increases should not be done by referendum. Instead, the Legislature needs to step up and pass new taxes. They need to focus both on directly challenging the court ban on income taxes and the 2/3 tax increase rule. This is the ideal place for a true leader as Governor to act: she could call on the Legislature to do this and refuse to sign any budget that does not include new taxes. She could put pressure on the Attorney General to issue a legal ruling approving the legality of an income tax, and assuming he won’t agree she needs to hold him and his party responsible for the failure to balance the state budget. She’s on her way out the door and has nothing to lose–now would be the time to stand up for the right thing.

    This is the wrong tax, too. State voters are maxed out on sales taxes. It’s time for an income tax, and elimination of tax breaks. It’s time for the 1% to pay their fair share in Washington. A good governor would agree with this, and say so every day.

  • Monster

    yeah democrapts imposing regressive tax’s. can’t wait for Govenor Mckenna to try and campaign to undo them who do you think will get more support in the suburban and rural areas now.

  • Anonymous

    Because tens of thousands of kids (and adults) can? Maybe we should stop decreasing the support, so more can afford it? We all benefit tremendously from a large, highly educated workforce.

  • Ed Whitson

    Ok, Mr. Let’s-revisit-last-months-bitch-moan-complian-issue-for-no-apparent-reason-except-you-say-so-Reality-Guy.

  • BobJ

    The Safeco sales tax (0.5%) only applied to eating out and liquor. It expired at the beginning of October.

  • sales tax is antipoor

    seventeen percent ivan.  that is the percent of income the lowest quintile, those making about $20K, pay in state and local income taxes.  we recently saw the math this is about 3400.  now this sales tax increase will make it what, 17.5 percent?  or 18 percent?

    this is not “good” this is horribly cruel and antipoor people.

    go for income tax?  yes.  because a union at a certain point has to go on strike even though it means hardship for those famlies, you have to fight for what’s right not settle for crumbs.  resorting to a sales tax hike is all about protecting the one percent.  they LOVE THAT SOLUTION.  why do we submit and not fight?  say we lose, fuck it let’s go fight it again, let’s fight it five times till we win.  that’s what having a spine is all about.  ow we’re fighting it when the whole state realizes the one percent thing, when the cuts are massive. i bet we’d get 45 percent this time then next time we’d fucking win but we won’t ever ever win if the d’s are so vichy to the one percent they just go for the regressive tax every time.  in fact, this is why the working class type people are so afraid of liberal big government solutions, we seem to have no heistation at all in screwing them royally.  and in that, this false perfect good logic is the grease that makes the lie go down easily.  seventeen percent is not good, eighteen percent is crimiinal.  the point is not to protect state employees, it’s to help poor and middle class families you don’t help them by taxing them to death.  

  • Big Jim Slade

    “No one pretends that this is a long-term fix.”

    And no one believes this is a short-term increase.

  • TEA PARTY PATRIOT

    THIS IS LIBRUL SOCIALEST TYRANNY. ITS THE END OF FREEDOM IN WASHINGTON STATE.

  • open border supporter

    YES!  that does not cover the cost of education.   nit does boost short tyerm operating budget.  we didn’t sink the capital into UW o educate foreigners dude!   

  • Producing member of society

    so, a democrat promoting increased taxes is crossing party lines? That just blew my mind

  • Big Jim Slade

    “and assuming he won’t agree she needs to hold him and his party responsible for the failure to balance the state budget”

    Kinda hard to do that credibly when her own party holds a majority in both houses and the Governor’s mansion.

    You say this is the wrong tax that demonstrates a complete lack of leadership, yet you will still vote for it. Exactly what message do you think that’s sending?

    I agree that now is the best time for Gregoire to make a stand because she won’t be running for re-election, but that would mean she’d actually have to lead on something and be held accountable for it, something she’s never, EVER done as Governor.

  • Producing member of society

    “temporary tax” that’s laughable. 

  • Producing member of society

    you do realize that the 1% will just stop working as hard, or move to another state, therefore reducing the tax revenue even more, right? Or is that basic concept too much to understand. 

    I also enjoy how you will for for it, then say it’s a crappy option and the wrong tax. Your thought processes are enjoyable to read. 

  • ivan

    Do you live in a fucking cave or something? Gregoire endorsed, and campaigned for, I-1098, and the voters, in their infinite wisdom, slapped her, me, you, and everybody else who favored 1098, down hard.

    There might be a lot of things to criticize Gregoire for — for two examples right off the top, her caving to Boeing and the business lobby on workmens’ comp, and her gutless, unconscionable veto of the medical marijuana bill — but income tax isn’t one of them.

  • Anonymous

    Keep throwing the word “fair” around like a five year old who wants mommy to pay for their immediate gratification. It is fitting. Perhaps stomp your foot.

  • Anonymous

    “ that does not cover the cost of education”

    source? (your ass doesn’t count)

  • Blue Light

    Actually, this angle blames politicians and entrenched bureaucrats that whore out our public institutions to the highest bidder.

  • Guest2

    I can’t believe that “progressive Washington” is considering another regressive tax. We need new revenue desparately, why can we not get it through our heads that closing tax loopholes, ending tax breaks for big corporations and raising the taxes on the rich is the better solution to a sales tax?

  • Blue Light

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014670294_admissions03m.html

    The UW can’t pay professors $200,000/year on in-state tuition…

  • Grover

    That sales tax was only on restaurants and bars.  The sales tax in King County is still 9.5 % on everything that has sales tax, with a few exceptions.

  • Bark More Wag Less

    I guess I’ll have to keep shopping all my high end stuff online, and out of state. Folks should try some of the big NYC electronics stores. Free shipping, no WA state sales tax. Hell, we just bought $1500 worth of tiles out of state and didn’t pay the tax.

  • Grover

    Average in come in WA has fallen something like 7% over the past couple of years.  At the same time, health insurance premiums have been rising over 10% per year, gas is still almost $4 per gallon, rents have been rising, food and clothing prices have been going up, water and electric rates are going up significantly, etc, etc..

    So, with incomes down and expenses for most everything up, where does Gregoire expect the average WA resident to come up with the money to pay higher tax rates?

  • Grover

    In the meantime, Sound Transit’s budget is about $1 BILLION in expenditures for 2012, alone.  We have billions of dollars to waste on worthless little trains, but the state needs to raise the sales tax rate?  This is what happens when you waste billions and billions of tax dollars on stupid little toys.

  • FrequentPoster

    Wow, you’re a deep thinker.

  • spineless defined

    riight ivan, when you really believe in something and you lose, you should give up and not try again. 
    you should then cave in and do what your opponents want, here what they want is (a) protect the 1%,a nd (b) do it by further screwing the poor.

    when you have 17% of the income of the lowest quintile going  to state and local income taxes, gee, sure, let’s throw on more sales tax, maybe then we can up that to 18%!~!!!!!

    Sometimes you have to keep trying.  This time, we’re in deep cuts and the OWS has helped people understand inequality more.   I’d say a high earners tax would get 45% this time.  Maybe next time or the next time it would win. 

    It will never, ever win as long as the standard operating procedure is act like you got no spine.

    seriously, ever wonder why the working class votes against income tax?  it’s because the liberals in this state are so eager to load them up with regressive taxes they show over and over they don’t give a crap about poor people.  They can’t be trusted.  It may take a few times to change their minds, the poorer folks voting against income tax, but if you never TRY and FIGHT and KEEP AT IT LIKE YOU MEAN IT and have the determination to win then the democratic party is simply acting to protect the one percent.   

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    Are you changing the constitution to fit your opinion?

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    I think raising the B&O tax being off the table is bullshit.

  • ceryous

    Changing the Constitution is probably easier to get than the Eyman required 2/3rd vote on tax increases.

  • ceryous

    Changing the Constitution is probably easier to get than the Eyman required 2/3rd vote on tax increases.

  • Buzz Killington

    Did you know the title came from a passage from Herbert Agar’s book ‘The Price of Union’ about an act of courage by an earlier senator from Massachusetts, John Quincy Adams, that gave John F. Kennedy the idea of writing about senatorial courage? Why, yes.  He showed the passage to Theodore Sorensen and asked him to see if he could find some more examples. And so, ho-ho, this Sorensen did, and eventually they had enough not just for an article, as Kennedy had originally envisaged, but a book.  A book!

  • Buzz Killington

    Did you know the title came from a passage from Herbert Agar’s book ‘The Price of Union’ about an act of courage by an earlier senator from Massachusetts, John Quincy Adams, that gave John F. Kennedy the idea of writing about senatorial courage? Why, yes.  He showed the passage to Theodore Sorensen and asked him to see if he could find some more examples. And so, ho-ho, this Sorensen did, and eventually they had enough not just for an article, as Kennedy had originally envisaged, but a book.  A book!

  • ceryous

    YOU GET TO VOTE ON ANY TAX INCREASE PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE.

    I WISH I COULD INCREASE THE FONT SIZE OF MY RESPONSE SO YOU COULD READ IT.

  • ceryous

    YOU GET TO VOTE ON ANY TAX INCREASE PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE.

    I WISH I COULD INCREASE THE FONT SIZE OF MY RESPONSE SO YOU COULD READ IT.

  • I Told Her

    And ‘Producing member of society’ (if that is your realname), what is it that you produce?  Nothing!  You sponge off the good works of other, more sucessful people.  Your name shall not darken these comments again.  Begone!

  • Blue Light

    but its created JOBS!!!! Without Sound Transit, the Voice of Reason might be another Dorli Rainey.

  • Jason

    For those who whine about temporary taxes not being temporary I’ll just point you to the recently expired taxes from Safeco field.

    Also, to those (especially the guy claiming to be in or somewhere near the top 1%) just remember this, at some point the long-term problems created by your short-sighted cuts are going to manifest themselves, and when they do the first people to whine and complain will be the exact people who supported them. It’s going to be the 1% who didn’t want to pay income tax and are then shocked when there are no educated workers to hire, no decent schools to send their children to, and no police force to protect them from a low-income class so totally left behind that they’ve no choice but to resort to crime to feed their children. It will be the voters in Eastern Washington who, as has been pointed out, keep rejecting tax increased but complain when roads, transit, and schools in that area are jokes beacuse there’s no money to pay for them.

    After $10 billion in cuts in a few short years it might be time to realize that the conservative mantra of “government waste” is so totally inapplicable that its laughable to say. Yup, you’ll still find a scandal in the public sector, but realize that’s a human nature thing, not a bunch of government employees rolling around in baths of money like so many of you seem to envision.

  • and earth flat too

    riight they will move to ny or md or ct or ca.  or they will move to germany or switzerland, all places without an income tax.  everyone knows nations with high income  taxes like germany or sweden have seen tax revenues decline, that’s why the % of their economy that is gummint is so low. 

  • how 2 b spineless

    yes, ivan if you lose, you should give up, not try again.

    that’s for the winning football teams, the gop and people like thomas edison.  or bill gates.  Democrats, we like to give it one try then give up! 

  • ivan

    Rah rah rah. Sis boom bah. Fight fight fight. Bla bla bla. Spine this, spine that. Between now and the time you get the income tax — and you can tell me when that will be, can’t you? — how do we fund this basic shit? If we leave it up to you, we won’t. 

  • FrequentPoster

    I voted for an income tax. Unfortunately, it was defeated in every county including King. To accuse Gregoire of “lacking leadership” because she won’t propose an income tax again is just plain nuts.

  • FrequentPoster

    Let’s have a tax on capitalization.

  • serving 1% harming poor!

     
     what’s the justive of harming the poor more, to fund shit for all of us?  is government supposed to tax the poor to help the middle class?  that’s what you are presuming.  that is wrong.  morally wrong, economically wrong and it’s certainly not liberal or progreessive, it’s exactly what the one percent wants you to do.  

  • ivan

    Did I say we shouldn’t try again? Sorry, but my mind does not operate in binary like yours does. We can try again, but there is no guarantee that we will succeed. And until such time, this shit has to be funded. If it takes a sales tax to fund this basic shit, then we should fund it with a sales tax, until we can pass an income tax.   

  • http://profiles.google.com/mjamesd Mark Drummond

    In a recession where thousands have lost their jobs, homes, benefits, pensions, and dignity, the Democratic and Republican parties still just don’t get it. Working people cannot abide these cuts any longer. And making us pay for an economic crisis we didn’t create is not only unfair, it’s just plain immoral. Those who have made millions of dollars and gained unprecedented political power in this state through the obscenely unfair tax system, the financial and economic crises created by Wall Street, and the federal government’s anti-worker policies should pay their fair share in taxes. While we are forced to pay more and more of our income in taxes, while corporations raise prices to pad their profits, and the government refuses to seek real solutions to the problems workers face, this governor proposes once again that working people pay up. I say no more! More sales tax is not the way to solve our problems; taxing the rich and corporations who immorally stole millions of dollars of workers’ wealth is the only way to balance the budget fairly!

  • Jefferson

    You fail to mention the FULL court press our law makers put on to extend this tax, but the very fatigued voters (OF ALL PERCENT BRACKETS) are tired of the constant battering for revenue.  With the highest gas tax in the nation and soon to be the highest sales tax, where more can you squeeze the lemon?

  • FrequentPoster

    That’s easy: Stick a sunset provision into the initiative.

  • Trevor

    Gregoire can’t think of any corporate tax loopholes worth pursuing? Really? 

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, keep cutting funding, and fewer in-state students get in. 

    Would you go to a school with professors hired at below market value? Maybe you went to such a college and got a budget education….

  • Anonymous

    Tyranny? End of freedom? My tea bagging friend, you are an idiot. Try living in Syria, Russia, or China.

  • Bluewatermelt

    A capital gains tax (she said she didn’t have the infrastructure or numbers to make the case for it); My comment-work on it.

    Now is a good time to establish the tax on the out of state banks. More money will come in the future.

    What about the private airplane tax? I was told they are currently exempt. I heard a lot of sad sad stoires about their hardships and why they can not pay a tax on their personal planes.

    Regarding the tax the rich. The middle class thought it was refering to their future wealth.

  • ivan

    Oh, bullshit. Just put a sunset clause in it.

  • fount

    so you want the tri-county area — which already pays more in state taxes than it receives in state services — to transfer its light rail money to pay for the budget deficit for the rest of the state? it could work, if you ignore fairness and the will of the voters.

  • Someone….go occupy Olympia!!

    I’ll give her credit for trying. One trick pony– tax, tax, and more tax….unless the citizens rise up at ballot box, in legislature, and public forums.
    .

    We can dance all day and night, but at the end of it…..if we prioritze the kids/education….Great! Then it has to come from other areas of the budget.

    Pretty clear, electorate won’t support a new tax, sales tax, B&O, income…..all will fail. Y’all can dream on and posit all sorts of taxes and fees. Rejected on all fronts.

    If we truly feel education is the priority, then where will the cuts come from? .

    Until our legislature and executive branches of Washington start to address the deficit issues, then they will just keep on kicking the can down the road.

    This is the $5 debit fee of State of Washington government….without an opt out!

  • Grover

    Stop the ST sales tax “temporarily” from going to little trains, and transfer that revenue “temporarily” to schools, and whatever else is “basic”, and we can’t do without.  Surely nobody believes that Sounder trains and Link light rail are “basics”, or that the $2 billion tunnel from UW to downtown is “basic”, since we have been doing very well without it since Seattle was founded.  And if Sounder and Central Link light rail passengers can’t live without them, raise fares to pay for 100% of the operating costs, so they can continue to operate, without tax subsidies.

    Put that to a vote, after the 0.5% sales tax increase gets killed at the polls.

  • Diogenes

    Fouling your own nest again, are you?

  • Anonymous

    Just wait.  More bad-news will come.  If revenues don’t increase soon, there will be further cuts.  Already, State agencies have reduced personnel costs by capping salaries, increasing benefits contributions, furloughing staff and eliminating positions. There have been various efforts to process and quality improvement with the most recent being LEAN initiatives, centralization and consolidation of services notably in IT service and management, and reductions in spending.  These continue and will continue.  

    When State is fully out of the liquor distribution and sales business next June, there’s hundreds of millions more of revenue that will not be going to the State (and to the Counties, since the State not only made a profit that went directly to the general fund where education dollars come from, but also the the Counties).  More cuts will come unless additional revenues are generated… somewhere.  Expect creative Republicans to start calling for the sale of public resource to private interests or the privatization of public services (which, in the end, will only undermine democracy and put us all at the mercy of the profit motive which cares nothing about the public good.)

  • Anonymous

    Light rail will relieve congestion on the freeways once it extends from the population centers where people live, to the urban centers where they work.  We have a choice: more roads or rail… or more and more congestion.  So long as businesses require people to go to a central location to work, instead of going more digital and implementing telework, flexible work schedules, etc., it’ll only get worse.

    If you were in charge when the Rail Barons were receiving federal dollars and being allowed to purchase right-of-ways through public lands at rock bottom prices, the U.S. would have never expanded to both coasts within a few decades…. really, you are pretty short-sighted when it comes to public investments.

  • Anonymous

    Go visit NYC and see what a few hundred million invested in the past has done for mobility of a population within a large metropolitan area decades after the subway was built.

  • Anonymous

    Good for you!  Of course, you’ve just deprived the State of revenue that funds the services of which you take advantage… and just showed why you’re part of the problem.  By the way, the State COULD seek to implement State sales tax on all online purchases where the buyer resides in the state as opposed to where the seller resides.  It’s starting to happen in other States… it will, eventually, happen here.  

    And I’ll bet the cost of shipping and handling offset the tax savings… and if you really buy into “free shipping and handling”, you’re not paying attention to the fact that businesses often include those costs in the mark-up on products (maybe not all, but many).

  • Anonymous

    That wasn’t a reporter.  That was the State Auditor’s office… which does this sort of “ferreting out” all the time.

  • Anonymous

    Washington State has a bit higher to go before having “the highest sales tax.”  We’re 11th on the wikipedia published list for general sales tax, 6th on the list when you look at general combined with the highest local.  

    It’s also 7th on the gas tax rates…not highest… according to the Tax Foundation.

  • Bark More Wag Less

    “is government supposed to tax the poor to help the middle class? ”

    Does the sales tax apply to food, rent and weed?

  • Bark More Wag Less

    “Light rail will relieve congestion on the freeways ”

    Hasn’t done squat on I5 south of Seattle.

  • Bark More Wag Less

    “While we are forced to pay more and more of our income in taxes”

    So you’re in the 53% of Americans who pay federal income tax?

  • ErinReardon

    Time to trim some Busch around the Capitol. Start by cutting back the ever growing numbers of partisan press flacks, policy analysts, two individual staff for each part-time legislator, banks of attorneys and other public teat suckers…the savings aren’t a lot in the face of a $2 billion shortfall, but its a great start and a good example of leading by example.

  • ivan

    What a crock of shit you are. Do you want a Basic Health plan in this state, or don’t you? Who does that help? The poor, that’s who. Until there is an income tax, this is what we’ll have to do, like it or not, “liberal” or “progressive” or not. We have no good choices here. There is no pony for you, and no “justive.”

  • http://yrihf.com John Bailo

     How about extending the asset tax as in HB2100:

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?year=2011&bill=2100

  • PAUX

    It was’t just for soda, it included water also. Until they take the flouride out of our water I will be drinking bottled water.

  • PAUX

    They want to increase the sales tax which does hurt the poor and middle class while they pay Chase bank millions for the EBT cards for food for these same people. Doesn’t seem fair, again the banks get the money while the rest of us pay the tab. They need to go back to the stamp program and not be paying the banks for administering this program and this would put a big chunk back into the budget.

  • PAUX

    What a dumb post, and in caps. There is nothing “socialist” about a sales tax that is regressive.

  • PAUX

    Yes, I think that Boeing has been delinquent in paying their taxes….

  • PAUX

    Not to mention the tunnel that is to replace the viaduct, which most certainly will go over budget, and will not take the burden off of the other routes, because it will have less lanes and no on or off ramps into the downtown corridor.

  • PAUX

    Seattle did have light rail that extended to Everett and to Tacoma, but they were taken out and more roads built, how was that for “short-sightedness”.

  • PAUX

    No, we are #2 for sales tax, San Francisco is #1.

  • Blue Light

    Don’t forget to cut the travel budgets, Erin.  Taxpayers need to change the current paradigm that pretends our elected officials (of all jurisdictions) have “business” to conduct the wide world over.  Snohomish County taxpayers have sent their Executive to China, Australia, Paris, Finland… the list goes on (and doesn’t begin the “domestic travel” itineraries).  These are little more than taxpayer funded vacations (and/or trysts!).  Since we are being austere, let’s make our elected officials (and bureaucrats!  They travel, too!) stay home and work on the jurisdiction they were hired to serve.  Anyone feeling constrained by that can, always, join the private sector and be the  International Business People they currently play (with public subsidy).

    PS:  Far away conferences are, also, GREAT ways for YOUR government to conspire with others; away from prying eyes.  They are where so many Best Management Practices (new and inventive tax and regulatory schemes) are spread.

  • still vague, spineless

    oh thanks, now you agree with me.  you didn’t say we should try again btw, only after I said so.  so tell me this in a time of billions more in cuts….in a cycle where the OWS movement has put wealth and income in the forefront of everyone’s minds with the fairness issue….isn’t NOW the time to try again?

    you want to wait, that’s the same as never, and it’s spinelessly backing a spineless gregoire.  and again you ignore the point:  WHY should we fund stuff called government that mainly is to help poorer people

    with regressive taxes that mainly hurt poorer people?  you just keep stating your conclusion.  because you got no answer to that.  S

  • hate whom you hurt

    again ignoring that poor people pay lots of taxes. 

    you have to hate the ones you hurt, don’t you>?

  • fount

    but you still didn’t really answer the question.

    you want King, Pierce, and Snohomish County, which all already contribute more to state tax revenue than they receive in state services, to now re-direct some of their voter-dedicated transit revenue to the rest of the state?

    can you imagine if the state took taxes on apples that go to the apple cooperative and re-directed it to paying for something in western washington?

    at least you are not even pretending to be consistent now — “me no like light rail, and me no like western washington libruls. me see only solution is to screw both at same time for to pay other parts of the state.”

  • fount

    what are you talking about?

    sales tax was last raised by a Republican governor in 1983.

    so what exactly has Gregoire done to earn the “one trick pony” status you give her? She hasn’t raised the sales tax. She hasn’t supported an income tax. She hasn’t even hinted that she’d be willing to close tax loopholes. In fact, this is the first time she spoken about new revenue.

  • fount

    so you want no staff people and part-time legislators making decisions about how to spend and raise billions of dollars? even though you admit this is at best totally symbolic?

    i’m sure the unstaffed part-time law-making (in the absence of any of those pesky policy analysts you want laid off) will be really stellar.

  • Producing member of society

    I sponge off the good works of others? What does that mean? I work a full-time job, am middle class, have student loans (private), and an underwater mortgage. How am I a sponge? 

  • I Told Her

    I said, ‘Begone!.

  • Someone….go occupy Olympia!!

    My post included a variety of taxes surrounding the on trick pony, not just sales tax:

    She pledged no tax increases in a tough economy in 2008….poof! proposed 700 million in taxes, after re-election.

    Supported ‘sin’ taxes on soft drinks and WATER to the tume of $138M…. you know, for the kids! Also supported the ‘sin’ taxes on cigarettes/liquor, while also increasing state tuition….all tolled $482m

    Other highlights included support for the 2010 sugar tax, which was thankfully repealed.

    Proposed creating a new Ferry bureaucracy, which of course included a new district Ferry Tax.

    Tapped the then $600 rainy day fund, depleting safeguards, thus requiring the consistent drum beat of new taxes.

    Took the US government $1B bail out funds, to fill deficits in the state budget, with no plans, (other than new taxes) to continue programs the next year when funds ran out.

    And most recent to her newest Tax boondoggle, She has lead the effort to remove the 10% tax credit from state to cities, relative to annexation of large areas.

    So there you go…..multiple examples of different taxes she has directly called for, proposed, or enacted via administration of her powers.

    That, my fried is a one trick pony. Just think if she had the fiscal constraint during her first two terms, that she seems to have now. Perhaps the 40%+ bloat would not put us where we are now (but then without the public union bloat, she couldn’t have won the election…..oh well!)

  • Nemo

    Past due time for the Gov to “think about” closing those no-brainer $40 billion worth of loopholes, instead of going back to the same well that is drying up.

    Sales Tax increases in a down economy is DOA with most voters. Not that it was feasible when times were better. Do what has to be done to close those loopholes to address those other “values,” that seem to be ignored here. Of course, that would take leadership, so I am not betting on anything. 

  • Anonymous

    That article has nothing to do with professors’ pay. In fact, average pay for UW professors is around $110,000.

  • Anonymous

    ivan, you’re the same person who posted “half-assed chickenshit regressive measures like this dumb-ass $60 car tabs measure”. Why is a regressive sales tax any different?

  • Bark More Wag Less

    How do I hurt the poor?

  • Marvin McConoughey

    Governor Gregoire, and most of the comments, do not consider the long run future of our economy.  We are transitioning, with great pain, into a new American era marked by resource depletion, rising population pressure, increasing global competition, and aging demographics.  We must–simply must–learn to live at a more modest level.

    The present financial pinch offers the Governor a great opportunity to reduce the cost of government.  If she fails now to control labor costs per employed state worker, she misses the opportunity of a lifetime.  A sales tax increase is not required, but greater political courage on her part is.  Taxpayers should not pay a dime, or a “half a penny” to subsidize political cowardice.