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Seattle Money for Bellevue Rail Will be Spent in Seattle, Sound Transit Says

We’re standing by our assessment of Bellevue City Council member Claudia Balducci—who won on a pro-light rail platform despite a well-funded push by a challenger backed by rail opponent Kemper Freeman—as the big winner of this year’s election.

However, we did wonder about one thing Balducci told us during our interview with her last week: Namely, that Sound Transit would not, as some have claimed, be spending Seattle’s money to build a tunnel for light rail through Bellevue.

So we asked Sound Transit: Will Seattle taxpayers be on the hook for Bellevue’s tunnel? The answer is: Sort of yes, mostly no.

Bellevue needs extra money from Sound Transit because its city council demanded a tunnel through the city’s downtown as a condition of signing off on light rail through the city—an improvement that will cost a total of as much as $300 million, funded jointly by Bellevue and Sound Transit.

Sound Transit spokesman Geoff Patrick says the city will only pay for the portion of light rail to the Eastside that is actually inside Sound Transit’s North King County subarea, of which Seattle is a part. Under the policy of “subarea equity,” tax dollars Sound Transit collects in any of its three subareas must be spent to benefit that subarea.

Obviously, North King/Seattle could have used that money for other projects that originate and stop wholly within our subarea. So the question becomes: Does light rail to Bellevue benefit Seattle as much as other projects that could have been built for that same money (an estimated $110 million)? Patrick argues that it does. “There’s a very strong argument there, because more than 40 percent of the riders on East Link are projected to originate within North King County,” Patrick says. “There’s nearly as high a demand for rail on the west side as there is on the east side.”

Others, of course—including some Seattle city staffers—disagree.


  • Guest

    The cities who are actually getting boned here are Shoreline and Lynnwood — not Seattle. ST’s mandate is to build the BART-like system stipulated in the ST2 ballot measure, not build random cool transit projects divvied up by subarea. University Link and North Link are fully funded, so that $110 million in capital money makes no difference in the build-out as far as Northgate.

    Under ST’s current plans, the next station north of Northgate will be at I-5 and 145th St — right on the boundary with Shoreline, and not anywhere that anyone who lives in the urban parts of Seattle is every going to give a shit about visiting. There’s one more station out in the boonies of Shoreline, then everything else can be paid for out of Snohomish money, so the North King-East King transfer ST is proposing won’t make any difference to the part of the line north of 185th.

    Of course, Snohomish is absolutely dependent on North King building up to 185th in order that they can start their part of the line. I’m therefore surprised that the Snohomish members of the ST board haven’t figured this shit out yet, but I don’t really care, as I live in Seattle, and, contra Erica and random Seattle city staffers, we are not the ones getting fucked here.

  • Guest

    “Obviously, North King/Seattle could have used that money for other projects that originate and stop wholly within our subarea.”  The East Link project starts in downtown Seattle and its first station is also in Seattle at I-90 and Rainier/23rd Avenues in the Central Area by the I-90 lid and bike trail.   Thus, the North King money will in fact pay for a portion of the project that is wholly within Seattle — as well as giving Seattle residents better access to Eastside jobs.  

  • shane phillips

    It does seem like there’re a lot of reasons to spend money on getting commuter rail between the two biggest economies in the state (I assume), for both of us.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    Northgate is 40 blocks from Shoreline.
    Anybody that lives in Seattle and travels north on a regular basis iwould be included in that, too.

  • Factanista

    North king / Seattle could not use their money on any project that was not in the ST2 plan. So if north king can afford all their projects, then it’s all good. It’s not like they can fund new projects that weren’t approved by the voters.

  • Alpha

    A quick look at the bridge commute would tell you that a substantial number of Seattlites are making their paychecks on the Eastside. I assume they are using that money to pay for their Seattle rents and Seattle restaurants. Pretty sure connecting to Bellevue and Redmond will benefit Seattle.

  • Wellson

    I’ll leave this here diskushyun about issews & cirkimstances, such as they are, with just a word about who’s Rong on the dbt: Wirshdirt and da gang is rong…Maybe these embarasing turds with money to burn, waste years on durn plan after durn plan nobody likes much. Who’s wrong? good grief, who’s rite?
    Hint: 2 letters M in name is rite.Make that charge to your bigger than average, high-paid bigger business boss and get an answer… THEY won’t wanta tok bout it.The friends of yer DOT engineers are the worst at that engineering thing once again.The strongest seawall is backed with a cut/cover tunnel, upper/lower deck 6-lane, 1-mile shorter, half the concrete.No High Risk to foundations. No Badly Rerouted thru-traffic at near every ‘redesigned’ intersection. A temporary surface street route is possible to maintain well. It’s true. The idiots&liars misled you all, which explains my adamant concern and chagrin. Git yer own dam act together, crapass virun-mentalists & U loose-lip reckless righter-than-thou selfish righteous-wingers and other selfish selfish and thoughtless unconcern…There’s a SH
    I’ll leave this here diskushyun about issews & cirkimstances, such as they are, with a small word about who’s Rong on the dbt: Wirshdirt and da gang is rong…Maybe these embarasing turds with money to burn, waste years on durn plan after durn plan nobody likes much. Who’s wrong? good grief… Mike’s right.Make that charge to your bigger than average, high-paid bigger business boss and get an answer… THEY won’t wanta tok bout it.The friends of yer DOT engineers are the worst at that engineering thing once again.The strongest seawall is backed with a cut/cover tunnel, upper/lower deck 6-lane, 1-mile shorter, half the concrete.No High Risk to foundations. No Badly Rerouted thru-traffic at near every ‘redesigned’ intersection. A temporary surface street route is possible to maintain well. It’s true. The idiots&liars misled you all, which explains my adamant concern and chagrin. Git yer own dam act together, crapass virun-mentalists & U loose-lip reckless righter-than-thou selfish righteous-wingers and other selfish selfish and thoughtless unconcern…There’s a SHAME headin the bosses way, better believe it.They wasted too much money.They plotted to continue wasting more money.They passed their take around like it grew on trees.And built and are building more freeways, oh yeah, wut…?
    AME headin the bosses way, better believe it.They wasted too much money.They plotted to continue wasting more money.They passed their take around like it grew on trees.And built and are building more freeways, oh yeah, wut…?

  • Wellson

    I’ll leave this here diskushyun about issews & cirkimstances, such as they are,
    with a small word about who’s Rong on the dbt: Wirshdirt and da gang is rong…
    Maybe these embarasing turds with money to burn, waste years on durn plan after durn plan nobody likes much. Who’s wrong? good grief… Mike’s right.

    Make that charge to your bigger than average, high-paid bigger business boss and get an answer…
    THEY won’t wanta tok bout it. Friends of yer DOT engineers are again worst at that engineering thing.

    The strongest seawall is backed with a cut/cover tunnel, upper/lower 2-deck 6-lane 1-mile shorter, 1/2 the concrete, recycles more. ZERO High Risk to foundations. ZERO Badly Rerouted Thru-traffic at way too many of ‘their redesigned’ intersections. A temporary surface street route is possible to maintain well. It’s true. The idiots&liars misled ya, which explains my adamant concern-led chagrin.

    Git yer own dam act together, crapass virun-mentalists,
    U loose-lip reckless righter-than-thou selfish righteous-wingers,
    U other selfish, thoughtlessly unconcerned, uninformed and sorely misled
    people know-it-alls that won’t take questions or answer them sensibly.

    There’s a SHAME headin the bosses way, better believe it.
    They wasted too much money.
    They plotted to continue wasting more money.
    They passed their take around like it grew on trees.And built and are building more freeways, oh yeah, wut…?

  • http://yrihf.com John Bailo

    I was just reading at seattletransitblog.com how Singapore…a city with higher real estate values than us, just completed a 22 mile subway line for $4.5 billion.   That’s a whole lot less than what we’ve already paid for planning and building a “light rail” starter system.

    Queen City?
    Jet City?
    Emerald City?

    How about … Ripoff City

  • perspective

    the people who are disadvantaged are those in the ST area who pay — a total amount of thousands of dollars per family including mvet and sales tax since 1997 == and who live in areas that aren’t slated to get ANY line.  we’ve basically planned about one third the system we need, we have no plans in the first 25 years to get to the west side of seattle or renton or southcenter or  burien or to go across 520….yet all pay the taxes.  I’d say in this context BOTH cap hill and SE Seattle and those lucky enough to be near the tiny handful or n seattle stations AND belleuve denizens are winners, those in crown hill, ballard, interbay, west seattle, renton, bothell, southcenter are the losers.  In fact they’re the goats, they’ll be taxed for more than a generation before rail even gets close.

    DC?  all done in 25 years.  Seems like we’re going to take about 65 years.  This is not a strategy to “catch up” it’s one in which although we are adding some rail lines we’re falling relatively more behind. 

  • sigh

    Perspective?  How about facts.  ST put its first shovel in the ground for LRT in 2003.  By 2023, there will be 55 miles and three dozen stations in service.  Serving the highest volume transit markets in the region. 20 years. Add six if you want to count the poor start they had after the 1996 election, and call it 26.  Not bad in process-obsessed living under the shackles of NEPA/SEPA.

  • Sigh

    Two words: “Environmental Laws”

  • Ben Schiendelman

    Guest, Shoreline simply hasn’t built an urban center. In the future, we’ll build a line up 99, but we really do need to build in the order of most cost effective to least.

  • Ben Schiendelman

    That’s an oversimplification. While I support the deal, we could have potentially accelerated constructing more rail in North King, or gotten lower interest on bonds for existing projects, meaning we could use these taxes for something else sooner.

  • Ben Schiendelman

    Not just environmental laws – we have living wages here for construction workers. And much higher civil engineering standards.

  • Ben Schiendelman

    perspective – Our vote against rail in 1968 was the same day DC voted for it. If we’d voted for it then, we’d have the same system they do. Ooops.

  • http://yrihf.com John Bailo

    You are claiming the Singapore subway is poorly made?

  • http://yrihf.com John Bailo

    Two words…which ones?

  • Ex-Singaporean

    neither.  the correct 2 words are the Singaporean Government.  It is very authocratic.  There is another 2 words to understand better understand Singapore – Guided Democracy.   The will of the island state is paramount.  I am sure ST can build this for about the same price if we don’t have to spend $$$ on chosing route, buying consensus from all the subequity areas, run thru the entire project structure gamit to statisfy all stakeholders.

  • Ex-Singaporean

    On the contrary, I think its very high quality. It the nature of the political system.  They probably did not pay market value for any “takes” for the Right of Way.  My guess is they just took.  another two words -  “shared scarifice” 

  • http://yrihf.com John Bailo

    Oh right…unlike in Seattle where where they sell land at a discount to Vulcan and then rebuy it at a premium, then align the density and stations to favor a few developers instead of the commuting public who pay the taxes for it?

  • http://yrihf.com John Bailo

    Two syllables..Vul can.   Every project is hamstrung from the get go because it has to be warped into some incomprehensible overpriced mess designed to funnel money from the taxpayers wallet to the commercial real estate holders bank account.