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Seattle Transit Blog: No Free Ride

Over at Seattle Transit Blog, Roger Valdez makes a compelling case that the group of folks urging people to refuse to pay for the bus are missing the point about why transit costs what it does. Their complaint is that we “pay for transit four times”: Once as workers (our work creates the wealth that allows the bus system to operate); once in the form of sales and federal taxes; once in the form of the $20 car tab for Metro, assuming you have a car; and once in the form of “BUS FARES that have increased 80% in 4 years.”

The problem is that all those things, taken together (in reality, Metro is funded mostly by sales taxes followed by fares, miscellaneous revenues, and transfers from King County capital programs), are what it actually costs to pay for the bus system. Make fares free, and you have to come up with some way to make up for the 24 percent of Metro’s costs that fares currently pay for. “Sure, prices at the fare box have gone up, but abolishing them would mean all the other times we pay for transit would just get more expensive.”

Valdez continues:

The idea—as suggested on the We Won’t Pay website—that society and the economy should provide “Everything for Everyone” is what has driven government policy for the last 6 decades. Because there was such a demand for “free” highways and roads to get to our mortgaged single family houses backed by Uncle Sam, we got miles and miles of highway, which induced more and more people to drive. After all driving is “free,” right?

The perverse logic of transit funding is not that we’re paying more for it, but that we’re not paying the real price for other things that make less sense and are more resource intensive like roads and driving. Ironically, the more we sprawl and drive, the more expensive transit gets because demand for transit is more expensive to supply.

Building highways, sprawl, and keeping driving cheap ought to be the target of the We Won’t Pay crowd. Their slogan ought to be We Should Pay—for roads and driving. Such a policy would certainly generate revenue and internalize costs where we want them, making things we don’t want people to do more expensive.

Read the whole thing here.


  • FrequentPoster

    Just another semi-clever argument by planner types who want to tell everyone else how to live. They despise people who wish to live in a single-family house with a yard, and they hate automobiles. Their tool is taxation: They want the government to punish people for how they live.

    Earth to Seattle Transit Blog: Screw you. Run your own lives, and mind your own god damned business.

  • Barnes

    Bellevue thanks you.

  • Fred

     “Everything for Everyone” 
    Except for your sh*t right?

  • ivan

    Roger Valdez is well on his way to lapping the field in the race to become the Most Full of Shit Person in Seattle.

  • gohuskies

    I am a pro-density Cap Hill hipster and even I think most of Roger’s arguments are bullshit these days. The guy went from “taking a look at the land use code” to “making up horse crap”.

  • Blue Light

    No taxes!  No fees!  Transit should be free!

    Forget the numbers, chant the mantra.  It feels good, do it.

  • insecure much?

    wow such tribal bitterness.  Someone says “eerything has a cost, it should be known, and charged somehow” and peopl freak out?  Feeling threatened much?

    Tell me why if someone says let’s pay for transit suddenly this equates to taxing single family suburbs.  This happens when you suggest density too:  nobody is saying prohibit suburbs or force you to live in density, everyone is accepting that we’ll still have majority single family zoning in seattle even if we cut that area percentage by 40% it’d still be most of seattle, you will still have that choice, it’s just that some other people maybe want their choice too — and people freak out.  It’s like suggesting a slightly diferent mix in a roads/ transit budget allocation is really about your validity as a person if you live in bothell or kent?  what’s that really about?

  • huskycrap?

    riiight saying people should pay a fare for taking a bus and stop acting like busses are free, is “bullshit.”

    got it. 

  • FrequentPoster

    His article boils down to an argument that living here is a privilege granted by the city government. It’s tyrannical bullshit of the kind that you’d expect from a communist or a fascist. Fortunately, the first politician who embraces those ideas will be rewarded with 10% of the vote. You’ll find out, among other things, that there is no “we” that wants to remove nearly half of the space devoted to single family houses here. Not even your hero, Mayor McDope, would be stupid enough to try that stunt.

    Get it through your tiny brain: Most people are not, and never want to be, 20-something baristas, or 30-something permanent students, living in a cute apartment on Capitol Hill. If that life thrills you, great. I am 1,000% in favor of people living how they want to live. But get your nose out of my business, and that includes any city government that wants to penalize me out of existence because they think a backyard is a privilege. Woe betide anyone who tries to tell the people of this city that they are criminals for wanting a house, a yard, and yes, the family car. You want to screw around with that, and I absolutely guarantee that you’ll be thrown out of here so fast it’ll make your head spin.