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Officials Predict Dire Consequences Without $20 Transit Fee

At a forum hosted by the Transportation Choices Coalition this afternoon, King County and city of Seattle officials warned of dire consequences if the county council fails to enact a temporary $20 vehicle license fee to help offset a multi-million-dollar revenue shortfall at King County Metro.

The fee, which can be passed by a six-member supermajority of the nine-member county council or put to a vote of the people by a simple council majority, would provide about $25 million a year—enough to defray an estimated 600,000 hours in annual cuts to service, or about 17 percent of Metro’s service. The cuts, county council member Larry Phillips said, would “take us back to a 1996 level of service.” Meanwhile, Metro ridership is up five percent over last year.

“We desperately need our elected leaders to step up,” said county executive Dow Constantine, referring to the five county council members who remain on the fence about passing the fee without a public vote. “Some county council members are seeking to punt this proposal to the ballot. … That may eventually happen, but I have to once again ask, as I have in the past, why can’t those we’ve elected make a decision? That’s why we elected them.”

Sounding skeptical that a ballot measure would pass, Constantine added, “It will be difficult to mount a successful election campaign for a two-year fix.”

Seattle, Phillips noted, will bear 55 percent of the proposed cuts. Not only will many routes be scaled back (through less-frequent service, elimination of late night runs, etc.), but a large number will be eliminated entirely—including heavily used workhorse routes like the 26 and 28 (Fremont and Ballard to downtown), the 4 (downtown to Madrona), the 43 (downtown to the University District through Capitol Hill), and the 72 and 73 (downtown to Lake City and Northeast Seattle through the U District and (Full list of routes that would be cut or downsized here).

“Make no mistake: A lot of these changes will be ugly,” Metro CEO Kevin Desmond said.

The county council will vote on July 25 on whether to pass the fee or put it on the ballot. Next year, the state legislature plans to consider a comprehensive transportation funding package that will likely include some long-term funding for transit.


  • Alexjon

    Leaders are failing us on transit, from Gregoire vetoing transit to make sure her tunnel went ahead in 2009 to a lukewarm advocacy from leaders today. These cuts will have direct consequences for hundreds of thousands, and with a downtown completely dependent upon transit, we can’t afford this failure to lead.

  • gohuskies

    All the Seattle guys are on board. The problem is the rest of the County.

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    I was riding the New York City for the holiday weekend.

    Here’s how they do it there:

    The fare for a subway or local bus ride is $2.25*.

    The fare for an express bus ride is $5.50.

    If you qualify for reduced fare, you can travel for half fare.

    Up to three children 44 inches tall and under ride for free on subways and local buses when accompanied by a fare paying adult.

    Infants (under two years of age) ride express buses free if the child sits on the lap of the accompanying adult.

    http://www.mta.info/metrocard/mcgtreng.htm

    In other words — raise the fares.

  • http://www.twitter.com/joeszi Joe Szilagyi

     Time for the County of Seattle!

  • communist efficiency !

    a 17% cut in hours should only be a 10% cut in riders served if they would just simply eliminate the least efficient routes.  there is no reason to cut workhorse routes where busses are full. 

    do they still have the 56 that sits idle for 45 minute out of 60 all day?  blocking the view from the alki bakery??

    more funding, yes.  more efficiency also, yes.  walk, chew gum at same time.

  • Grover

    What a load of crap.

    Metro fares cover only about 25% of the operating cost of the buses.  Only about 25%.  Why the hell should car drivers pay higher fees to subsidize bus riders?  Let the bus riders pay their own way.

    Metro is averaging close to 400,000 boardings per week day now.  If they raise fares just 25 cents per boarding, that would increase revenues by about $100,000 per DAY, or around $30 million per year (I don’t know how many boardings Metro averages on weekends).  That is more than they would get from the proposed car tab increase.

    Just 25 cents per boarding solves the entire “problem.”  About 1/16 of a latte!

    Raise fares.  Cut low-ridership routes.  Do some intelligent managing instead of having motorists pay for bus trips.

  • repete

    I’m with Grover

  • repete

    I’m with Grover

  • repete

    What, oh, the sky is falling in Seattle again?  King Co too?  Oh my god, we are all going to die!

  • repete

    What, oh, the sky is falling in Seattle again?  King Co too?  Oh my god, we are all going to die!

  • Norge

    Shame on the King County Council.  Someone is not telling the truth here.  Yes there was an old formula for cutting or adding service 40/40/20 (with Seattle being the 20 for new service) but after talks with the transit commission hearing (Tom Rasmussen was on this commission representing Seattle) over the winter, the committee came together with cutting routes that had the least ridership or where sales tax revenue was down — and also taking into account low income high ridership areas. 

  • Walt

    So we should toll all the highways, right? Why are we non-highway in-city residents subsidizing car drivers’ for using of highways?

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    I should also add these, the Long Island Railroad prices:

    http://www.mta.info/lirr/about/TicketInfo/Fares2011.htm

    I was staying in Smithtown.   Off-peak, one ticket was $16.25!   It costs me $7 round trip on Sounder from Kent to Seattle (which, proportionately, is about the same trip in my mind).

    People simply need to pay a lot more for transit by ticket price, not from motorist taxes.

  • Barfly

    Temporary?

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  • Johns

    and that’s relevant because…??

  • Anonymous

    Where do you get the “25%” figure?  Certainly not from the budget statement of King County Metro (http://metro.kingcounty.gov/am/budget/)…. and your rider data?  Also… not from King County Metro, either (http://metro.kingcounty.gov/am/reports/monthly-measures/ridership.html)… and, probably not keeping in mind that there are “ride free” areas where a “boarding” does not equal a “fare”…

  • Anonymous

    Again… and that’s relevant because…?   Oh, we should do everything the way NYC does it?  Bet those rates are subsidized by non-fare revenue, too… or, perhaps, you didn’t bother looking at their budgets to see where they get their revenue from?

    By the way, pretty much all public transit is subsidized.  Everywhere.  

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    Alternatively, they corralled you fools into a trap, sealed you in, and now are eating you for dinner.

    Get people to give up the independence of personal transit and owned homes.

    Tell them a dream story about light rail.

    Jack up the prices of building.

    Make them totally dependent on it for their livelihood.

    Continually increase the cost of fares until it’s 10 or 20 percent tax on all aspects of their lives.

    Then go on strike to show them just how dependent they are on “transit”.

    Yep…this scene has been played a thousand times….

  • Tim

    See the enacting legislation, Barfly, at:
    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=5457&year=2011
    Select either session law or final bill report.
    The Legislature would need to provide additional authorization for this fee to be in effect beyond mid–2014.  That means annual vehicle renewals that are paid through 30-Jun-2013 (registrations valid to end of June ’14).

    The difficulty in passing even this temporary authority that only applies to King County portends little Legislative appetite for extending such a temporary measure.  A more comprehensive fix that applies state wide is needed.  Maybe it happens in 2012; maybe not until 2013…

  • religuousity of money

    well fortunately we have plenty of money for a DBT…..a few extra billion there, a few hundred million cut from metro…these different pots of money are sacrosanct and may not be distrubed, they don’t really belong to we the people anymore.  the WSDOT pot of money belongs to WSDOT.  the metro money belonds to the council.  we should not talk about the efficiency of an extra two billion for DBT compared to putting an extra two billion into busses which would of course give us fantastic bus service and mobility for like about 900,000 riders a day compared to 45K a day on the DBT.  the lines between pots of money are sacrosanct. 

  • MVH

    The lines between pots of money are established. They also belong to the jurisdiction that holds them. The state isn’t going to give away its pot of highway construction money to King County for transit service out of sheer generosity. Who’s going to convince them? (Hint: NOT Mike McGinn)

  • Guest

    Tax increases were approved in the past and we got a third of what was promised and they went years past their self-imposed deadline. 

    Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us.

  • Bruce Nourish

    You’re in bad company then.

  • Bruce Nourish

    You’re in bad company then.

  • gohuskies

    Especially because McGinn is Mayor of Seattle, not King County Executive, and so is not in charge of Metro? Not every Publicola post need be an opportunity to slam McGinn.

  • Monster

    Seattle’s fascists and  communists are incapable of that

  • Monster

    is there still free bus travel in downtown?

  • Grover

    Highways are paid for with gasoline tax.  If you don’t buy gasoline, you don’t pay for highways.  I thought eveyone knew this.

  • Grover

    Fares actually pay about 23% of Metro bus operating costs. 

    Ridership is from Metro.

  • Anonymous

    $25 million is going to save Metro, which has a $500+ million operating budget?  LOL.  Make the necessary cuts, improve efficiency, reduce costs, then we might listen to a proposal for more of our limited money.

  • Jen

    I think they looked into cutting the free ride zone and the amount of money saved would be a pittance. Still, might be a good idea.

  • fact checka

    Metro fares have gone up 80% in the last four years.  The NY fares you quote are ones almost no one pays because they have a Metro Card pass

  • fact checka

    Fares have gone up 80% in the last four years.  Metro fares are actually at about 28% right now, which is higher than the national average.  You want to separate the world into transit riders and motorists. Actually 85% of Metro riders own a car.  We are going to all be clogging up your sorry ass roads when we are forced to drive because we can’t do the right thing and take a bus.

  • Grover

    You are incorrect.  Metro’s fare recovery ratio is about 23% of operating costs.  National average is 30%.

    Raise Metro’s fare recovery ratio to the national average and the entire “problem” is solved.

    Metro’s problem is that costs are too high, and fares are too low.  What does that have to do with vehicle license fees?

  • http://www.twitter.com/joeszi Joe Szilagyi

    Wait, why couldn’t rates be raised on lines $0.25 again, if this fee fails?

  • repete

    Better Grover than tedious, prolix, pretend omniscience. 

  • Guest

    You know I don’t really mind the cutting back of bus routes IF they finished the full light rail system first. 

  • Anonymous

    They continually increase fares because morons don’t want to pay taxes. These fools are the people touting the phrase “the citizens voted for no more new taxes” and then want to stop light rail although a majority of residents in king county want light rail, and we learne that through a vote. These people bitch about the roads, but don’t want to pay for them via tolls or via taxes. Basically, these people don’t want to pay for anything that people actually use. Schools, roads, parks, etc. Those all need to pay for themselves. McDonalds Elementary. Arby’s Way. Alaska Airlines Park. This is what tax hating morons want.

    Light rail is a dream story when people realize they don’t need a vehicle with 7 seats  and 17 mpg for one person to drive to work. Look at the Canada Line and eat your words.

  • Anonymous

    John, New Yorkers don’t mind paying for things utilized by the public. Even the ones that rarely ride the bus or subway. They aren’t dumb suburban sprawl loving King Country residents.

  • Anonymous

    Highways are paid for *partially* with gasoline tax.

  • Anonymous

    Also, to answer the question “Why should ‘we’ pay for ‘them’?” It’s simple. There is no them. There is only we. You are paying for something that EVERYONE IN THE WORLD could use if they wanted to. It’s called public transportation for a reason. Your made-up victimization of drivers is getting tiring. Driving in this country is regarded as a right, and instead as a priviledge. Driving is also heavily subsidized. Have you paid for gas in Canada or in Europe? We’ve got it good here. Drivers are not being victimized and guess what? 20 dollars a year is a hell of a lot less than an extra quarter added to each bus ride. I ride the bus at least 25 times a week. In one month, I’d be spending more in one month with that increase, than anyone would with this proposed fee.

    Another thing, everyone pays for free parking although some of us never use it.

    So, what do you say? Can you spare 38 cents a week to help out everyone?

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    I don’t see how anyone but a complete ignoramus can not find comparisons between transit systems relevant to a discussion about transit.   Yet like a broken record you continually repeat “and that’s relevant blah blah blah”. 

    It boggles the mind…

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    I don’t see how anyone but a complete ignoramus can not find comparisons between transit systems relevant to a discussion about transit.   Yet like a broken record you continually repeat “and that’s relevant blah blah blah”. 

    It boggles the mind…

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    If you’re talking about the Mets…you sometimes refer to the Twins.    Comparisons are a standard form of argumentation.   It’s been that way since only like…the Dawn of Language.   Yet here (and only here in this Disqus thread) that tradition of discourse is suddenly in question.  Why?  And which way is the exit?!

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    If you’re talking about the Mets…you sometimes refer to the Twins.    Comparisons are a standard form of argumentation.   It’s been that way since only like…the Dawn of Language.   Yet here (and only here in this Disqus thread) that tradition of discourse is suddenly in question.  Why?  And which way is the exit?!

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    So our fares should be cheaper?

    How come it costs less in a “real city” than in a surreal city?

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    So our fares should be cheaper?

    How come it costs less in a “real city” than in a surreal city?

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    Wrong again.   Anyone that can afford a taxi or parking avoids mass transit…just like in Seattle.

    For example, stayed overnight in Manhattan one day at the Double Tree on Lex…(beautiful place, and less than $200 a night on CheapTickets.com).   They threw in free parking (!) but it was only $40 a day normally anyway.   For one person that’s steep, but if you were to buy 3 or 4 round trip LIRR fares, you’d be saving money by parking.

    And with New York salaries, many do end up driving to The City despite all the “transit”.

    (Same for New Jersey….there are even people who will drive up from Bucks County, PA and park in The City rather than take a train…)

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    Wrong again.   Anyone that can afford a taxi or parking avoids mass transit…just like in Seattle.

    For example, stayed overnight in Manhattan one day at the Double Tree on Lex…(beautiful place, and less than $200 a night on CheapTickets.com).   They threw in free parking (!) but it was only $40 a day normally anyway.   For one person that’s steep, but if you were to buy 3 or 4 round trip LIRR fares, you’d be saving money by parking.

    And with New York salaries, many do end up driving to The City despite all the “transit”.

    (Same for New Jersey….there are even people who will drive up from Bucks County, PA and park in The City rather than take a train…)

  • Guest

    A lot of you talk about cutting routes or raising rates.  How many that make such suggestions actually ride the bus?  I guessing not many.  Before you make such cavalier statements think about how such changes will impact those that rely upon buses to transport themselves due to income or physical/health problem.  What do you suggest for the person that is poor and has epilepsy or is in a wheel chair and has their route being cut?  

  • Guest

    A lot of you talk about cutting routes or raising rates.  How many that make such suggestions actually ride the bus?  I guessing not many.  Before you make such cavalier statements think about how such changes will impact those that rely upon buses to transport themselves due to income or physical/health problem.  What do you suggest for the person that is poor and has epilepsy or is in a wheel chair and has their route being cut?  

  • Guest

    A lot of you talk about cutting routes or raising rates.  How many that make such suggestions actually ride the bus?  I guessing not many.  Before you make such cavalier statements think about how such changes will impact those that rely upon buses to transport themselves due to income or physical/health problem.  What do you suggest for the person that is poor and has epilepsy or is in a wheel chair and has their route being cut?  

  • Mad4327

    Highways are only partly paid for by motor fuel taxes.  All citizens, including bus riders and non car-owners, pay for other taxes that support highways and streets. Motorists do not pay for the pollution, wasteful land-use patterns, global warming, injury accidents, police requirements etc. caused by our society’s over-use of cars.
    Who pays for the wars our government starts to protect foreign oil imports?

  • jeff

    Sort of…  The downtown businesses pay to fund that, on the presumption that it makes it easier for customers (esp. tourists) to get around and to their businesses.

    If we started charging fares there, presumably the businesses would not want to pay for it, anymore.