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Street Food Proposal Moving Forward Quickly

The city council’s land-use committee seemed eager to move forward quickly with new rules expanding access to street food this morning, when the group held what could be its penultimate discussion of the street food legislation. The proposal would allow street carts and trucks on city sidewalks and streets, with substantial restrictions and setbacks from places like restaurants, schools, and retail stores.

Unlike at previous meetings—when restaurant owners and street-food vendors who operate on private land turned out in force to protest the proposal—the objections this morning centered mostly on whether allowing street food near schools would lead kids to abandon high-school cafeterias in favor of off-campus taco and hot-dog stands (“You’re talking about schools that have vending machines with Cheese Doodles and fried pork rinds,” council member Sally Bagshaw quipped), and questions about whether the council is moving too quickly on the ordinance.

Unusually, for a committee that typically moves at a glacial pace, committee members seemed prepared to vote the legislation out as soon as a few weeks from now; committee chair Sally Clark even noted, “It’s not that [the legislation] is moving forward with great speed, [so much as] that it’s been kicking around for a couple of years now.”

Council members also seemed reluctant to expand the restrictions on food vendors that are already in the legislation, noting that adding more limitations could make it unattractive for would-be vendors to operate. In some cases, they seemed to support lifting restrictions in the legislation. For example, instead of barring food carts within 200 feet of all public and private schools, council members agreed that it made more sense to bar them just near high schools, which are the only schools that let kids leave campus during lunchtime. “Two hundred feet is a nice buffer, but beyond that, I don’t think it’s going to accomplish anything,” council member Tim Burgess said.

They also discussed creating an exemption to the buffer for transit stations, so that the Mount Baker light rail station—which is within 200 feet of Franklin High School’s athletic field—could have mobile vendors in its cavernous downstairs plaza, something Sound Transit has said it wants.

The committee also tacitly nixed the idea of expanding the buffer zone between food carts and brick-and-mortar restaurants to 100 feet, noting that such a large setback would effectively prohibit food carts and trucks in neighborhoods like Pike-Pine, where there’s a restaurant on virtually every block. (They do support a 50-foot setback, which still dramatically limits mobile food vendors’ ability to set up shop.)

And they rejected a proposal to make food carts and trucks comply with the Americans With Disabilities Act, noting that making trucks wheelchair-accessible (by requiring them to put their service windows no more than three feet off the ground) would be expensive and impractical, and isn’t recommended by city lawyers or state guidelines. “Having the windows 36 inches high is difficult because of the actual mechanics of the truck,” Clark said.

The committee meets again on July 13, at 9:30 am.


  • jimu

    Was there any discussion of bidding for certain spots?

    I would like to see them adopt a bigger setback for restaurants with outdoor seating so the cart, and traffic associated with the cart, are not right next to the outdoor seats.

  • Dmeinert

    The Council is ignoring how successful street food rules work in other cities.

    In Austin and Portland, where street food is huge, trucks are not allowed on the street at all.

    Not food carts. Food trucks. Food carts are far less impactful. But even in Portland which we feel we need to replicate, food carts aren’t allowed within 100′ of an existing restaurant. I think that’s too extreme (limits thing across the street too much). We should try 75′

    A food truck is 20 feet long, 12 – 15 feet high. It runs a diesel engine constantly. These trucks on the street will block views of existing businesses, and turn sidewalks into smokey alleyways.

    Yes to more street food. But let’s look at the practical experience from other cities and base our rules on that.

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    Let me know when I can buy a knish off a Sabrett cart.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure why restaurants should be insulated from competition on sidewalks they don’t own. 

  • Blue Light

    “And they rejected a proposal to make food carts and trucks comply with
    the Americans With Disabilities Act, noting that making trucks
    wheelchair-accessible (by requiring them to put their service windows no
    more than three feet off the ground) would be expensive and impractical…”

    Since when does “expensive and impractical” matter in regulatory promulgation?

  • Dmeinert

    It is nice that ADA rules, noise rules, parking rules, DPD rules, are not being applied to food trucks the same as they are B&M restaurants. At least we’ll have a well funded team of inspectors to enforce the rules that do apply when the trucks are out at night….oh, right, not that either. Oh well, I personally like mayhem, and would love to see this sort of lack of rule making elsewhere actually. please expand this expedited permitting process to all business in Seattle please.

  • Broyan

    I don’t really see why it matters if high school kids get their lunch from a food cart, but that seems to be really important for the Council. Am I missing something? It can’t be about health issues, most high school cafeterias do an awful job of offering healthy options. Pretty much everything in my high school cafeteria was either fried or came in a can.

  • Blue Light

    Will the food cart owners be required to provide paid sick leave?

  • http://www.twitter.com/joeszi Joe Szilagyi

    Is there even anywhere in Seattle to get a good knish? I just realized I haven’t had one in years.

  • jimu

    I thought the same thing. The only thing I can think of is they want the kids spending money in the schools rather than somewhere else.

  • http://jabailo.tumblr.com John Bailo

    If there were, it would probably be the round kind with the thin crust, instead of the good square ones with the thick crust.

  • http://grantmcwilliams.com grantmasterflash

    “Not food carts. Food trucks. Food carts are far less impactful. But even
    in Portland which we feel we need to replicate, food carts aren’t
    allowed within 100′ of an existing restaurant. I think that’s too
    extreme (limits thing across the street too much). We should try 75′ ”

    I don’t think this is accurate at all. The lot on Mississippi is sitting within 30 ft of Prost! which is  areal restaurant. I’m sure there are 100 other examples. Maybe the ordinance does exist but nobody cares.

  • http://grantmcwilliams.com grantmasterflash

    Bahn Mi from a food cart would be a huge improvement over school lunch.

  • Anonymous

    It’s great to see this development.  Anything that softens the chokehold on humanity by land-ownership.  Did you see the arrests of “Food not Bombs” activists in Florida?   Allowing food carts is a great, mainstream way for people to get a handfull of food at near-cost. I’m thinking of an oatmeal cart in the morning $1.00, and at lunch it would be beans/rice $1.00.   The stuff is not that expensive.  In tokyo there would be Sake.