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The Morning Blotter: Man Stabbed Outside South Seattle Rave

One man was stabbed near a South Seattle rave late last month when he tried to come to the aid of a woman after she was attacked by several gang members.

Police were called to the parking lot of a South Seattle dance hall, The Citadel, just before 3:15 am on March 26th, where they found the victim laying on the ground.

“Thirty Rave types” were standing around the victim when police arrived, a report says. The man had been stabbed in the upper back, and right arm.

The victim told police he had seen the suspects harassing the woman, and was attacked when he tried to intervene. Four or five suspects had punched him, kicked him, and stabbed him, before they fled eastbound on Othello.

A second female victim at the scene told police several suspects had followed her south on MLK prior to the attack, “flashing gang signs and yelling at people” on the street.

The suspects then attacked a second woman, punching her in the face and knocking her to the ground. Police weren’t able to locate the second female victim, and witnesses at the scene apparently didn’t provide police with much information.

The report doesn’t clearly indicate whether anyone involved in the incident actually attended the rave.

It just so happens that a small contingent of South Seattle neighbors are in the midst of a big freakout over the raves in South Seattle, which have been happening off and on since at least November. Neighbors say they’re bringing crime to the neighborhood, although their claims aren’t necessarily backed up by SPD’s statistics.

We’ll have more on the neighborhood debate, crime rates, and raves soon, but we’ll leave you with an, um, interesting tidbit from an email chain between neighbors, which was also forwarded to the police department:

“Why are we permitting events that are so large the Police cannot close down the events for fear of riots occurring?,” South Seattle Crime Prevention Council Chair Pat Murakami wrote in an email, later noting that “RAVES are so problematic that some municipalities have banned RAVES within their boundaries.”

So, that’s what that obviously very rational and not-at-all-fearmongering conversation looks like. More soon.




  • Eva R.

    I thought raves went out of fashion in the mid-nineties. They used to be very civil affairs, no violence. Kids don’t usually feel like fighting after chowing ecstasy. It sounds from this report that more froatwad gang activity is at the heart of this otherwise avoidable act of violence.

    This calls for a playing of the seminal Pulp classic, “Es and Whizz”.

  • Billy Chav

    By giving gang scum a bunch of slow-moving high-on-ecstasy easy-target white kids to target for attack? I guess every crime requires a victim, so in that sense Pat Murakami is right. I am personally a lot more worried about the large numbers of violent, heavily-armed, borderline retarded children who go around targeting innocent people, but maybe I’m just unreasonable.

  • phb

    the gangbangers really can suck the fun and joy out of ANYTHING can’t they? They are like a swarm of killer bees. How can you ruin a rave? Besides the cops busting it? Insert gang bangers, clearly. Maybe we are doomed.

  • Stfu

    AGREED!

  • MattOnJackson

    Would cause a riot? Then by extension we should not allow Sounders, Husky, or Seahawks to play.

  • Jeff

    sounds like a real idiot. Yeah, the problem with South Seattle is some ravers showing up there every month. Not the gangbangers & dealers & violent criminals that cause trouble every day.

    Is it a rule that you have to have a shortage of common sense to be a Politician?!

  • GSG

    being in possession of ecstasy is considered more of a crime than the assault that the victims received. the gang members caused havoc but the teens at this party would be in more trouble than these gang members if they where caught with E pills, E pills are poison, its obvious none of you have kids, and are druggies yourself.

    examples:

    “By giving gang scum a bunch of slow-moving high-on-ecstasy easy-target white kids to target for attack?” (they where mexican)

    “Kids don’t usually feel like fighting after chowing ecstasy”

    this is WA, we do not have a gang issue, we have a drug issue.

  • يمين

    You are only partially right that Washington doesn’t have a gang problem. It’s small but on the rise. If you ask me any where that has gang related homicides has a gang problem. It may not be LA but it is a problem.

  • يمين

    If you don’t think Seattle has a gang problem a DARE you to go to any of these neighborhoods after midnight: 28th and Jackson, 21st -26th and Union, 44th and Holly, 53rd and Henderson just to name a few. You will become the victim of gang violence if you get out of your car and walk around for awhile trust me.

  • يمين

    Hey GSG, Since when did felony drug possession become worse then stabbing a man in his upper back. Maybe you didn’t get the memo but drugs ain’t shit when it comes to violence in WA. They are even letting many drug offenders out early or not even locking them up at all. No I disagree with you,stabbing a man in the back is worse then popping X.

  • proud parent

    “This is WA, we do not have a gang issue, we have a drug issue.”

    Then why was it the gang members that harassed the woman then stabbed the victim and not the druggies?

    As a proud parent I would MUCH rather find out my teenage daughter experimented with Ecstasy than was stabbed or stabbed someone else with a knife. Speaking as a parent my concerns are with violence, not drugs.

  • Pat Murakami

    I’m Pat Murakami. I’m NOT a politician. I’m a community volunteer. If I am a politician I’d love to start receiving my paychecks.

    Posters, I know it is so easy to make anonymous, snarky comments about issues of which you know absolutely nothing. I have the courage of conviction and actual hands-on experience of the RAVES I don’t have to hide like a coward when I post.

    The above story of the assault aside, the ravers and the ravers alone have been responsible for:
    • Loud, thumping base-intensive music that pounds the walls and windows of homes BLOCKS away from the event
    • Loud noise from the ravers as they go back and forth from the event to their cars for the duration of the event (usually for nefarious reasons)
    • Fights among ravers
    • Licit and illicit drug use (intended to enhance ravers’ sensations and boost their energy)
    • Licit and illicit drug use by children under the age of 18
    • Drug dealing inside and outside the Citadel
    • New drug trafficking in the neighborhood
    • Multiple drug overdoses per RAVE requiring both privately hired Tri-Med ambulances and Fire Department Medic responses to the site
    • Underage drinking of alcoholic beverages
    • Public drinking
    • Public inebriation
    • Concealed, deadly weapons
    • Trash, particularly in the form of alcohol containers, throughout the neighborhood and in business parking lots
    • Trespassing on private property
    • Defacing private property (including feces and vomit smeared throughout a Church restroom)
    • Breaking in to private property
    • Personal property damage (including siding torn off a home)
    • Public urination
    • Public defecation
    • Public vomiting
    • Parking congestion
    • Driving under the influence
    • Vandalism to vehicles (new car window glass usually found on the streets the morning after the RAVES)
    • Graffiti
    • Nearby bus stops rendered unusable from vomit and trash
    • Adult males (30+) prowling the area looking for young girls under the influence who temporary lack reasonable judgment skills
    • Loss of business when parking lots are filled by ravers rather than customers, particularly NE corner of Othello/MLK and Safeway

    So if you think this list sounds like a fun stuff to have happen where you live, hop, skip and jump to the Othello Neighborhood ASAP and offer to trade your house for one of the neighbors’ homes near the Citadel. They’ll likely take you up on it.

    To be perfectly clear Jonah – I am personally opposed to the assault (stabbing, etc.) AND the RAVES being held at the Citadel. It would be nice if you could learn to separate reporting from personal comments/opinions. I never once personally said or implied ravers would riot. When neighbors have asked the Police Department to shut the RAVES down the THE POLICE told them that they wouldn’t do it for fear of a riot. For all I know they would leave the building in an orderly fashion without even asking for a refund of the ticket price.

    I know you have to get your little jabs in so folks will read your stories. Once again Jonah, your jabs missed their mark.

  • carol

    what it’s like to live near a rave club, they have an endless litany of complaints. I can’t blame the neighbors of this place either.

  • carol

    is pretty funny… like coals to Newcastle!

  • WSea Adam

    Pat, first, as he’s said many times before, it’s Jonah’s site and he’ll report how he likes. It’s easy enough to make your own site, should you need a forum of your own. However, he’s got the followers, Pat, so your advice isn’t exactly needed.
    Next, I think it may be a little naive to attribute trash, vomit, feces, broken glass, drugs, and fights inyour shit neighborhood to ravers. You know why? Because I’ve been there. In fact, it’s a dump, and I’ve never been there for a rave or near a time when one seemed to have occurred. In fact, if monthly raves are the problem, what are you lazy fucks doin that you can’t get it clean in between them?

    Bet you could, with the right drugs….

  • SlipperyDebacle

    When did they finally curb that problem?

    Looking at news, blotters, and even this site, it would come across that we have a much larger gang problem than any official, authority, office, citizen, or criminal wants to truly admit to.

    And whenever there is a “new trend” in street crime in Seattle, it is linked to a street gang.

    Don’t be a sheep, Seattle has a gang problem like Cleveland has a housing problem, it’s huge, multi-faceted, and complex.

    Just because our gang problem doesn’t resemble the daylight shootouts of Los Angeles doesn’t mean it’s not a problem. And if that’s the standard of a “gang problem,” let me be the first to say I do not want that in my town.

    Also, considering that GANGS are clearly involved in the on going child prostitution rings, (btw, the FBI is saying we have the worst child trafficking/prostitution problem in the country), shouldn’t we consider that SPD may have discovered that the initial incident leading up to the stabbing was that the gang was contacting females in the parking lot for that purpose?

    Caaaaauuussssseeee, I’m pretty sure that’s what the “problem” at raves is becoming, rather than the stereotypical drug one everyone wants to reference.

  • IDGal

    Pat brought facts, not chatter. And none of you seemed remotely concerned about the people who live there, just your sweeping judgemental crtitique of crime in a place you want to party in but don’t embrace. So, while not perfectly argued, it is PAT for te win. Take a lesson. Oh, and you were wrong. Pat IS welcome here, as all crticical thinkers should be, am I think Jonah aims for information and intelligent debate, so don’t speak on his behalf like he is a word-thug. I think more highly of him. Pat, you swayed me a little. Thanks for taking the time to articulate your thoughts.

  • Mark B

    More than once and if there were more people as concerned as she is about the area maybe just maybe it wouldn’t be so bad.

    @Pat
    I did not make the meeting last night, did Steve Rauf show up?

  • Rebekah

    Its Stupid that there closing down citadel.
    ive attended many raves there and im a raver.
    the ravers arent the problem , its the stupid ass gangs. ever heard of Plur? peace love unity respect, thats what ravers go by , the dont stab random ppl on the street, i know the guy that got stabbed. quit blaming the ravers and raves. its the gangs, DUH.