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Mileage-Based Insurance Bill Gutted

A bill that would have required insurance companies to offer a mileage-based car insurance option—the more you drive, the more you pay—was effectively gutted by the senate transportation committee today; the committee passed out the radically altered bill this afternoon.

In its original form, the bill would have required insurance companies to offer a pay-as-you-drive option (with mileage tracked by a computer chip in the car) or provide a mandatory discount to low-mileage drivers. The bill that passed committee today, now called “an act relating to exempting certain usage or mileage-based insurance information from public inspection,” removes all the mandates in the original bill and replaces them with a new provision exempting insurance companies who provide mileage-based insurance from disclosing information about the technology they use to track miles.

At a hearing Tuesday, insurance companies argued that the proposed bill would represent unfair interference in the insurance market and could unfairly give companies access to their competitors’ proprietary technology.

Carrie Dolwick, lobbyist for the Transportation Choices Coalition, says supporters have a week to restore the language in the original bill in the senate Ways and Means Committee, where the bill is currently awaiting a hearing.


  • ivan

    This piece of shit bill deserves to die in any form. How many miles I drive or don’t drive is not the government’s business and not any insurance company’s business. Nobody’s putting any damn transponder in any vehicle I own.

  • Anc

    Reading isn’t your strong point is it?

    ‘Required to OFFER’ isn’t the same as ‘Requiring ALL.’

  • Anc

    Oh, and I’ve heard that Haugen isn’t going to run in 2012. Please, oh please, oh please let it be true.

  • ivan

    I read what it said, you smug fuck. I don’t want them to be able to even offer such a thing.

  • ivan

    I read what it said, you smug fuck. I don’t want them to be able to even offer such a thing.

  • Alan Durning

    Erica,

    I’m not sure you’re reading the legislation correctly when you describe it as exempting mileage-based insurance plans from public disclosure . .
    “from disclosing information about the technology they use to track miles.”

    I think it’s not about the technology but about the actuarial basis for the rates. This stuff is technical, but it’s not clearly a bad thing. It could be a good thing for mileage-based insurance.

    Washington’s insurance market requires insurers to reveal a tremendous amount of proprietary information to justify new products. The theory behind this is consumer protection, but the effect is to stifle innovation in Washington’s insurance market. Developing a new insurance product can require big investments in data gathering, analysis, and modeling. In Washington, insurance law requires insurers to file a lot of that information with the Office of the Insurance Commissioner in order to win approval. The information filed becomes public record, and the main users of the OIC’s library of such filings are other insurance companies. Basically, whoever develops a new insurance approach (such as pay-by-the-mile) is then required to give away a lot of the up-front information to all competitors.

    This provision could lift a barrier to mileage-based insurance. (I’m not sure about all this yet. I’m still trying to sort it out.)

  • Alan Durning

    Erica,

    I’m not sure you’re reading the legislation correctly when you describe it as exempting mileage-based insurance plans from public disclosure . .
    “from disclosing information about the technology they use to track miles.”

    I think it’s not about the technology but about the actuarial basis for the rates. This stuff is technical, but it’s not clearly a bad thing. It could be a good thing for mileage-based insurance.

    Washington’s insurance market requires insurers to reveal a tremendous amount of proprietary information to justify new products. The theory behind this is consumer protection, but the effect is to stifle innovation in Washington’s insurance market. Developing a new insurance product can require big investments in data gathering, analysis, and modeling. In Washington, insurance law requires insurers to file a lot of that information with the Office of the Insurance Commissioner in order to win approval. The information filed becomes public record, and the main users of the OIC’s library of such filings are other insurance companies. Basically, whoever develops a new insurance approach (such as pay-by-the-mile) is then required to give away a lot of the up-front information to all competitors.

    This provision could lift a barrier to mileage-based insurance. (I’m not sure about all this yet. I’m still trying to sort it out.)

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, you wouldn’t even want that OFFERED to other people. Because you want occasional drivers to subsidize you driving your multi-thousand pound, CO2-spewing assholemobile every where you damn well please, and F*** anyone else that gets in Ivan’s way…

  • Go ‘way, ‘batin’

    Dude that is hilarious.

  • Papi

    I guess health insurance companies should be banned from offering lower rates to healthy people, too? Go fuck yourself, Ivan.

  • Papi

    I guess health insurance companies should be banned from offering lower rates to healthy people, too? Go fuck yourself, Ivan.

  • ivan

    Health insurance is not auto insurance, and health insurance companies don’t shove a transponder up your ass so that they can track your every move. But maybe in your case, I might reconsider that position. You can stick your superfluous commas up there, too; you might get a break on your premium.

  • Papi

    I want a transponder up my ass. It’s a free country.

  • ivan

    For your dumb-ass information, Chen, my miles driven have gone down every year in the past ten, because the price of fuel has gone up, and I like to save a buck if I can. But that’s not your business really, nor anyone else’s.

  • Anonymous

    Why is it your business if I want to pay for insurance by the mile?

  • Anonymous

    Governments and Utilities put meters on your home to measure electricity, gas, and water so they can charge you based on how much you use, right? Or do you think we should all pay the same for our electricity regardless of usage?

    Mileage based insurance works under the same premise. Those who drive more (and drive more aggressively) cause more of the accidents and should pay more.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    Computer technology is making everything pay as you go. You can still have “unlimited” plans the way my Virgin mobile plan gives me unlimited Internet for $40 and 1200 anytime minutes. If want to pay more I can get unlimited voice as well.

    Seems to me with the GoodToGo card type technology (or an Android phone with GPS, etc) you can track usage for taxes, insurance, and so on. Use what you need, pay as you go is frugal, and green.

  • ivan

    ANC and Chen look forward to servicing you.

  • your emotions are “valid”

    why so much anger ivan?

  • ivan

    I have a low tolerance for bullshit. Maybe you don’t. Insurance companies are the most relentless control freaks in modern civilization. If the Legislature allows insurance companies to put transponders in people’s cars “only for those who want them,” it will be only a matter of time until they will demand them in everyone’s cars, as a condition of doing business. All it would take would be the election of one Republican Insurance Commissioner, bought and sold by insurance bastards, to accomplish this.

    If you think that is just a paranoid fantasy, think again. If your vehicle is newer than 1996-97, you might already have one. Google “event data recorder” and get back to me.

  • ivan

    That’s utter bullshit. Drivers who cause accidents pay more because they cause accidents, not necessarily because they drive more. Correlation is not causation.