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PubliCola was off and running. In June 2009, PubliCola hired another award-winning journalist, super-sourced Seattle city hall reporter Erica C. Barnett.

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The first online-only news site in state history to get media credentials to cover the state capitol and Seattle city hall, PubliCola has been called a “must-read” by the Seattle Post Intelligencer and a hot “New Media Mover and Shaker” by Seattle Magazine—which also cited our own Erica C. Barnett as the city's No. 1 news nerd.

The War On the Carless

In anticipation of tonight’s PubliCola confab at Liberty Bar on Capitol Hill (Topic: The War on Cars), David Roberts, a longtime staff writer for the national environmental blog Grist, wrote this guest editorial. For the opposite point of view, see Washington Policy Center transportation analyst Michael Ennis’ own op/ed here.)

If the Tea Party has taught us anything, it’s that hell hath no fury like an entitled constituency scorned. People who grow up accustomed to having public policy and social norms tilted in their favor have a special kind of self-righteous indignation when their privileges are challenged. Thus we get middle-class white Southerners demanding “their country” back. And, just as absurdly, we get Seattle drivers decrying a “war on cars.”

If there was ever a “war” involving cars, it ended long ago, and cars won. Their dominance has been so total for so long that we’ve come to think of public spaces designed to accommodate two-ton vehicles as the default state of affairs. The public, including the poor and working-class who are most likely to rely on public transit, massively subsidizes roads and parking. Even the most marginal efforts to charge drivers for the services they enjoy (with, say, parking fees) is greeted as an act of hostility.

It is for cars that Seattle put an interstate through our urban core that forever separates downtown from Capitol Hill, and a highway that separates downtown from the waterfront. It is for cars that we have inflexible minimum parking requirements, which reduce walkability and density. It is for cars that we’re getting ready to jam a six-lane highway into Montlake. It is for cars that we’re contemplating burying a gigantic tunnel under downtown, despite recommendations from an expert panel and the expressed preferences of Seattle voters. Every one of those roads and parking spaces is a gash in the city’s social fabric, a dead space designed for machines rather than people. Every one invites congestion, pollution, accidents, and isolation.

It is one of the most longstanding and best-understood findings in urban design that building more roads does not ease congestion. To the contrary, it quickly leads to more cars and more congestion. Yet no matter how bad Seattle’s congestion gets—no matter how long its citizens spend in their isolated boxes, stressed out, wasting time, taking years off their lives—the answer from politicians and vested interests is always the same: more lanes, more roads, another highway.

Meanwhile we have, to the north in Vancouver and to the south in Portland, two justly famous examples of the quality-of-life benefits that come with land-use and transportation policies designed to serve people and mobility rather than cars and commute times. World-class cities from Seoul to San Francisco have ripped out highways, closed areas to vehicle traffic, expanded bus rapid transit and light rail, launched bike- and car-sharing services, and built up the dense, walkable neighborhoods that are in ever-rising demand. You’d have trouble finding a city that looks back on such decisions with regret. People like living in places where they don’t need cars, but supply of such places still falls well short of demand—that’s why they cost so much!

Yet this region’s power brokers can’t seem to learn that lesson. They still think they can conquer congestion by adding pavement. And while they’re doing so, they’re simultaneously promising carbon neutrality by 2030. But Seattle is blessed with copious low-carbon hydropower electricity. If we’re going to make substantial reductions to our carbon pollution, there’s only way to do it: Reduce the amount we drive (AKA vehicle miles traveled). Every new piece of auto infrastructure is a 30-50 year commitment that puts sustainability that much farther out of reach.

I live up in the Bitter Lake neighborhood of North Seattle, which, like so many older neighborhoods, was brought to life by public transit: The area first flourished in 1906 when it became a stop on the Seattle-Everett Interurban trolley. With the addition of Playland, the iconic amusement park, in 1930, Bitter Lake became a bustling community. The one thing it lacked was sidewalks, so in 1954, it agreed to be annexed by Seattle, in part on the promise of those sidewalks.

More than 50 years later, Bitter Lake still doesn’t have sidewalks. My kids still can’t walk around our neighborhood safely. They can’t bike, either, since between every bike lane or trail there’s a dozen blocks of streets with narrow shoulders and no traffic calming. Needless to say, the trolley’s gone too, and that monorail Seattle voters asked for three times never showed up. We’re stuck in our car, like it or not.

If there’s a war in Seattle, it’s a war on the the carless, and it’s been waged for more than a half-century. If the carless are finally fighting back, well, it’s long overdue.


  • Anonymous

    good piece

    serious question though – why do you choose to live in Bitter Lake?

  • monorail

    Excellent, excellent column… you hit the nail on the head. I often wonder if the people complaining of a “war on cars” have ever actually been to any other city, where all the crazy, utopian ideas about rapid transit actually exist— chicago, ny, dc, sf, portland, or even los angeles. Here, it’s always on the horizon, just as soon as we finish building and rebuilding every highway… (but I am hopeful– the light rail is a good start, even if it only puts us 20 years behind portland).

  • ivan

    Quit repeating the lie that the Viaduct “separates downtown from the waterfront.” Just walk underneath it and there you are.

  • policyguy

    With just a couple of word changes from the article, one could say: Even the most marginal efforts to charge bicylclists for the services they enjoy (with, say, license fees) is greeted as an act of hostility.

  • http://eldan.co.uk/ eldan

    You’re right. All it actually does is blight what should be one of the most attractive urban waterfronts in the world with the noise and fumes from thousands of cars. Huge, important difference there.

  • Papi

    yeah, i’ll just put on my x-ray goggles, too!

  • Ziggity

    Not hostility, stupidity.

  • Papi

    That’s assuming bicyclists don’t pay sales or property taxes, which cover most of local road funding, and they don’t also own cars (hint, policyguy: most do)

  • policyguy

    “It is one of the most longstanding and best-understood findings in urban design that building more roads does not ease congestion. To the contrary, it quickly leads to more cars and more congestion.” Wrong. Taken to its logical conclusion, we would have to have people driving more than one vehicle at a time for this assertion to prove correct. The mistaken belief that adding road capacity increases congestion derives from a misunderstanding of what actually occurs. It is true that when highway capacity is increased in highly congested areas, the highway congestion does not necessarily decrease. But that is because vehicles that were using alternatives routes – for example, taking neighborhood arterials to avoid the highway — revert to using the highway when capacity is increased. The arterials, however, see less congestion. If cars long ago won the war as the writer suggests, then, in a way, cyclists should welcome increased highway capacity as it means fewer cars on the neighborhood streets and arterials they tend to use.

  • Sianwu79

    Another point to bring up would be that kids are much more likely to die from auto accidents than of homicide. For those who move to the suburbs for “safety reasons,” they’re putting their kids at greater risk the more time they spend in the car. http://www.articlesbase.com/law-articles/children-car-accidents-the-alarming-statistics-695796.html

  • Papi

    that assumes that nobody changes from car to bus or bus to car, only their routes. None other than the RAND corporation (what a bunch of lefties!) published a study that says that in the long term, you can’t build your way out of it.

  • ceryous

    Too many arguments have been made against the bored tunnel and against the HOV lanes on the 520 bridge. Both offer huge benefits to pedestrians and bicyclists.

    However I do think you do pick a reasonable battle against the anti-pedestrian nature of Seattle and other cities. The lack of sidewalks or the poor condition of sidewalks is ridiculous. If the goal is to minimize cars then the infrastructure for pedestrians and bicyclists needs to be addressed. Sharrows are nice, but still put the cyclist in the road and in the portion where gravel and garbage accumulates. At grade sidewalks defined by lane marking are probably more dangerous than no markings, by giving a false sense of security to pedestrians.

    I’m sure there are thousands of examples, but the lack of sidewalks around the west side of Northgate Mall and the horrible conditions of the sidewalks along the no man’s land of NE 145th St immediately come to mind.

  • Citizen

    There’s a glaring omission in what is otherwise a logical point. The PSRC estimates an additional 1.7 million people to move to the region. So I would clarify that more roads with more people means more cars, everywhere. Unless there are alternatives.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    Do you stand on the banks of Elliot Bay and curse the Puget Sound?

    Do you go to the Dalles, and lament the Columbia?

    Auto Roads are the rivers and waterways of our time.

    All of America is a Venice with roads; and cars as gondolas.

  • David Sucher

    Very good article.

    Those who doubt the dominance of cars, just take a look at a Seattle street and see how much bigger the space is for cars than people.

    My only quibble is the history of the Viaduct — one of thevreasons to build it was to rationalize bayfront commerce.

  • Portlandia

    Do all the drivers in Seattle sing opera as well?

  • damn the man

    Sure. I curse the bastard that dug trenches thousands of feet deep in the earth’s surface and filled them with water. Had he not done that, just think! We could drive to Japan! We could drive down to the Antarctic and see disappearing ice shelfs!

  • Barleywine

    Our gondolas burn oil, but otherwise that’s one of the most beautiful poems I’ve read on PubliCola. Nice work, JB.

  • Anonymous

    In defense of Seattle v. Portland and LA:

    True, those cities have more miles and more passengers on rail lines, but Seattle has an overall more comprehensive transit network, as evidenced by our higher share of commuters who use public transit. We are just more dependent on buses and trolleys, but U-Link, North Link, and East Link will do a lot to shift ridership (and grow it) to faster, more frequent, lower emission rail transit.

  • talk the talk

    “vote no on the monorail. There are much better transit solutions for the highway 99 corridor” — 2005 City leaders

    “Let’s build a DBT for cars!” == 2010 city leaders

    “What, we don’t have enough for roads? Let’s have a car tab tax for road maintenance.” – 2011 city transportation chair

    “We’re the greenest city in the world!” — often stated by all.

  • Anonymous

    Do people like to eat lunch, read a book, chat with a friend, or have homes and parks by a canal?

    Yes, they do.

    Do people like to eat lunch, read a book, chat with a friend, or have homes and parks by a freeway?

    No, they don’t.

  • Anonymous

    It wasn’t described as impermeable.

  • Anonymous

    And how about a license fee for pedestrians for the use of sidewalks and crosswalks?

  • Fgruben

    The Feds put in the freeway.

  • Mickymse

    Not quite, policyguy… In the same fashion that additional capacity on the highways will quickly fill up, the same will happen on those arterials. The congestion isn’t just about moving vehicles from an inefficient roadway to an efficient one. Data also repeatedly shows that folks will move AWAY from transit because there will now be time savings to driving or folks may move further outside of a congested area because the time loss has shrunk. The collection of these individual choices (perfectly logical when made) result in the congestion slowly coming right back, even though the road capacity has increased. One need merely visit Los Angeles to see the proof of that.

  • Gordian

    Was that a joke? Seriously.

  • Gordian

    That reply was meant for Ivan, who seriously must be joking.

  • Verd1n

    Sorry. I do. I love the look of a busy freeway, especially at night, and better yet, at night in the rain. And, while not talking about freeways, per se, but any urban street, why did craftsmen houses all have front porches?

  • Anonymous

    This is stupid, we hardly provide any services or cyclists at all. Anyone who has tried to get around the city by bicycle or looked at the budget figures for transportation expenditures would realize this.

  • Verd1n

    No again. The freeway was “put in” by an outfit called the Washington State Department of Highways (WSHD), and Bill Bugge (later of SF Bart fame) who, at that time, was the WSHD boss. The local District Administrator was Walt McKibben.

    The Feds paid 90% of the freight, though.

    No cigar for you

  • Anonymous

    And in these waterways is a shark that John Bailo just jumped over by comparing ugly impermeable concrete to water…

  • Anonymous

    People built craftsman homes (with a nice porch) so they could chat with the neighbors as they walked down the sidewalk, not watch cars drive by and inhale exhaust fumes.

  • Anonymous

    We are reducing capacity on Highway 99 taking what is at parts an 8 lane highway and reducing it to two. With 520 we are adding a lane, and HOV or potential light rail/BRT lane.

    No one is seriously suggesting adding much capacity to our roads in Seattle.

    I get tired of the focus on the method vs the people. We didn’t build roads for cars any more than we lay train tracks for trains. People drive cars, or ride bikes, or take Link.

  • sarah

    The horrible condition of sidewalks was experienced last night during the One Night Count of homeless people. I walked a portion of Ballard with a group and the buckling of the sidewalks was much more of a danger than the areas without sidewalks. If sidewalks are installed, they need to be maintained. My area doesn’t have sidewalks but there is enough room to walk safely between houses and street, and also allow cyclists to stay out of the way of cars.

  • sarah

    The horrible condition of sidewalks was experienced last night during the One Night Count of homeless people. I walked a portion of Ballard with a group and the buckling of the sidewalks was much more of a danger than the areas without sidewalks. If sidewalks are installed, they need to be maintained. My area doesn’t have sidewalks but there is enough room to walk safely between houses and street, and also allow cyclists to stay out of the way of cars.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    A tragic story.
    It makes you want to run screaming from the Bitter Lake Community Center and up Linden Avenue.
    Maybe you could go to the remodeled Bitter Lake Library and write a letter to the mayor. Walk on the continuously paved surfaces and sidewalks to your Bitter Lake Post Office.

    And PlayLand is on the Hollar Lake side of 99.

    The “solutions” often proposed don’t cover the rain water ditches, or build sidewalks, but too often center on improving places that already have sidewalks and bus service with very expensive rail. There isnt a meaningful solution in West Side LR, or the old Monorail plan, or any of the other Rail projects proposed to help North Seattle, north of 130th, look something like north of 145th?
    None of those projects have anything

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    A tragic story.
    It makes you want to run screaming from the Bitter Lake Community Center and up Linden Avenue.
    Maybe you could go to the remodeled Bitter Lake Library and write a letter to the mayor. Walk on the continuously paved surfaces and sidewalks to your Bitter Lake Post Office.

    And PlayLand is on the Hollar Lake side of 99.

    The “solutions” often proposed don’t cover the rain water ditches, or build sidewalks, but too often center on improving places that already have sidewalks and bus service with very expensive rail. There isnt a meaningful solution in West Side LR, or the old Monorail plan, or any of the other Rail projects proposed to help North Seattle, north of 130th, look something like north of 145th?
    None of those projects have anything

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    Buy a map.

    When, if ever, would light rail reach David Roberts?

  • thatguyinmagnolia

    License fees don’t pay for anything but the license. Property taxes pay for local roads. One way or another we all pay these, even if we don’t own a car.

  • David Miller

    This would have been more convincing except the author cites Erica’s opinion piece that drivers don’t pay for themselves was completely debunked in the comment section. There are 600,000+ pedestrians in Seattle, but our Mayor chooses to spend money on the fraction of people who are bicyclists. Instead of acknowledging the inevitability of the tunnel and using his office to agitate for the promised transit, the Mayor makes himself a pariah in Olympia. And if I read tunnel opponents use congestion as an argument against the tunnel, when the congestion caused by the surface alternative is one of the cheif appeals to them because they believe more congestion = fewer drivers I might gag.

    We have real problems in this city. Crime. Lack of transit. Lack of sidewalks. School quality. It would be nice if we could quit shouting slogans at each other, quit pretending the viaduct isn’t going to happen, and start making some progress.

  • Butch

    Great Comment David Miller. One more point about the article – trucks. While the war may be on cars trucks are impacted also. And regardless of whether you walk, bike or drive, trucks continue to be the last leg of many of your daily essentials.

  • Anonymous

    “We are reducing capacity on Highway 99 taking what is at parts an 8 lane highway and reducing it to two.”

    Either you are wholly ill-informed of the tunnel’s proposed configuration or you have absolutely no qualms with distorting the facts to further whatever your objective here, which is unclear, seems to be.

    True, the capacity will be reduced from eight total lanes, but it will be down to four rather than the absurd number of two that you cite. There will indeed be two lanes, that is, if you count two sets of them traveling in each direction on upper and lower decks, including a feature that is not included w/ the extant viadict: an emergency shoulder so that collisions and stalled vehicles do not clog the tunnel.

    Now I’m not sure when you last drove across the viaduct, but there were four lanes… on each deck… the last time that I did… and that was a month ago. Has it changed since then? Probably not.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2010/12/09/2013641806.jpg

    Besides, if WSDOT wished to build more lanes, don’t you think they would’ve done so, as you so illustrated with the case of the future 520 widening?
    They are in the business of building and maintaining highways after all, not that of making nice with über-greenie Seattle.

    You seem not to be in possession of the knowledge that the tunnel in question will be the largest in the world ever bored through soft earth, or else the issue of reduced capacity would not be a concern, because you better believe that WSDOT would’ve LOOOVED to have more lanes to work with if they could.

    They are not wizards, and the technology and logistics will refuse change in spite of how hard you will it otherwise.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012182436_tunneling23m.html

    If I am wrong, then pray tell us just how exactly we are to build an even larger tunnel with greater capacity without either damaging more buildings on the surface as presently expected or completely collapsing it altogether?

    My suggestion to you is to cease your cretinous babble now or return when you have considered educating yourself on the subject rather than relying on hearsay and wild assumptions.

    Run along now, kiddo…

  • Natehc

    Cycles aren’t multi thousand pounds heavy. They don’t add nearly the wear and tear on the road that cars do. Nor do they create air pollution.

    Most cyclists also own cars. They already pay for roads.

  • Random Engineer

    Wow. That’s almost as bad as that Maggie May song.

  • SeaTowner

    If you knew anything about pavement design, you would know that cars do negligalbe damge to the roads (unless they are using chains – which is a whole different argument). One bus causes nearly 1800 times as much damage to the road than a car, and large trucks are nearly double that.
    This is an ingorant point. Streets are public R/W. They are used for utilities (sewers, gas, electrical), cars, trucks, busses, bikes, and pedestrians.

  • Anonymous

    Except that’s not what Erica’s post says. She does not say “drivers don’t pay for themselves”. I suggest rereading the piece here:

    http://publicola.com/2011/01/04/all-together-now-roads-do-not-pay-for-themselves/

    Excerpt:

    “Fortuitously enough, just this morning, the US Public Interest Research Group (USPIRG) came out with a report on that very subject. It concludes, “Highways do not – and, except for brief periods in our nation’s history, never have – paid for themselves through the taxes that highway advocates label ‘user fees.’”

  • David Sucher

    David Miller.

    I am curious to know what you mean when you say “quit pretending the viaduct isn’t going to happen,”

    “happen” in what sense?
    That it won’t be torn down?
    Or will?
    Or what?
    Thx.

  • Anonymous

    You may be interested in knowing that before automobiles caught on, government spent money on roads for “the fraction of people who are motorists”. Likewise the first passenger airports were built when only a fraction of people had ever been an airline passenger. Policy makers need to anticipate how people will travel and not just react to how things are in the present.

  • Anonymous

    You may be interested in knowing that before automobiles caught on, government spent money on roads for “the fraction of people who are motorists”. Likewise the first passenger airports were built when only a fraction of people had ever been an airline passenger. Policy makers need to anticipate how people will travel and not just react to how things are in the present.

  • Anonymous

    The State DOT estimates that only 40,000 trips will be handled by the tunnel, with the other 80,000 diverted to I5, surface streets, and transit. In other words the tunnel is a solution for 1/3 of viaduct users and makes no attempt to accommodate the remaining 2/3. The I5/Surface/Transit option does attempt to improve these three elements, which even under the tunnel plan would carry 2/3 of the viaduct trips. I leave it up to you to do the math and figure out which option attempts to avoid congestion.

  • Irritated by distortions

    So many distortions in a single article. The sidewalks in Bitter Lake lie is so often repeated. They were never promised. In every other neighborhood, developers have paid for sidewalks when houses were built. Bitter Lake residents are free to form a local improvement district and buy their own sidewalks. There is no reason the rest of us should subsidize those of you who bought into a neighborhood cheaply and want it improved at our expense.

  • mobility rules

    good city life comes from a good system of cars, roads, streets, highways, trains, busses, express bussses, shuttle busses, car service, taxis, lots and lots of density and upzoning, and underneath it all a desire to enjoy the fruits of congestion, crowding, people, population a/k/a having tons of choices for people love, family, school, recreation, entertainment, economically, for business, for play, for life, all nearby. In this context you should look at each mode that you have cars, trains and busses and figure out

    what is the next big chunk of investment that produces the most mobility for the greatest number of people? what is the next thing we should build that would enhance and synergize with the system we already have?

    in this context billions for a DBT carrying few people is a collosal waste of money. our road and car system is basically…fully developed….rebuilding this one piece of it really adds virtually nothing to mobility for the region (except it does tax all of us to make it easier for those of us commuting from burien to shoreline to get to work 15 minutes faster — a waste of invetment dollars). Clearly we get more mobility bang for the buck by putting the money into busses we’re cutting, or adding another light rail line to synergize with the one we already are building, or in changing zoning (that is, adding amenities needed to make density more attractive…buy a block for a park here and thyere, let there be higher towers around it…spend money to make density work)…..if the real concern is public safety in an earthquake, my god, putting $100 million in neighborhood health clinics in 9 different locations around seattle will do far far more to save 50000 lvies in a megaquake than rebuilding a viaduct that most of us can’t crawl to through the rubble after the big one hits as we desperately seek out morphine and doctors to perform triage. we certainly won’t be driving to that new DBT portal after the big earthquake anyway. So we’re just using up scads of 19th amendment dollars for this wasteful project because they’re there, not becaue they serve a real purpose.

    and yes, if we want hi speed rail one day that’s what we have to put in the tunnel, not cars, because there isn’t any other place for hi speed rail to go.

    If we truly had a war on cars, which we should, we’d be building a comprehensive mass transit system with beefed up bus service and trains all over, not wasting money on a limited access limited volume tolled two mile highway segment for the rich.

  • Matt Hays

    Those who don’t spend on cars spend on other things instead. If we spend more on those other things, what additional rights do you suggest we get?

  • Matt Hays

    I’d put a cratered sidewalk way over no sidewalk. At least it provides a place to walk away from cars.

  • Matt Hays

    The current tunnel is the same capacity as the new tunnel, except the new one has breakdown lanes.

    The current viaduct is generally three lanes each way, much of which is for traffic that will simply exit earlier with the new configuration.

    What are you smoking?

  • Matt Hays

    Much of the 80,000 is people headed for Downtown, who will simply exit earlier, aided by a series of other alterations (the Spokane St. and south 99 stuff currently underway, etc.).

    The tunnel’s job is to handle most of the pass-throughs, which it does.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    You are correct, it is Haller Lake that was promised sidewalks back in the 1950′s as part of annexation.

  • wells

    The severe impediment cars impose upon other modes of basic travel (walking, bicycling, practical/effective mass transit), amounts to a “transportation monopoly” and thus a “constitutional inequity”.

    When cars dominate in meeting travel demand, even travel by car cannot function optimally and suffers a consistently severe impediment of traffic congestion.

    Bailo’s comparison is artful but not apt.

  • Storm

    Please, cycling is a fad. The ‘cool’ cyclist thing is in beer and pizza ads for fuck’s sake (man uses iPhone like swipe to move car aside and get in bike!).

    10 years from now when all these cyclists hit 30 and start having families, 95% will grow up and see what cycling is in Seattle. A cute hobby for weekends.

  • wells

    The ‘stacked’ cut-cover tunnel alternative in the SDEIS is 6-lanes (with wide shoulders) and built while the AWV remains in place. All studies show this cut-cover displaces the least amount of traffic onto surface streets (Alaskan Way, Mercer, Denny Way). The traffic displaced onto Alaskan Way with the bored tunnel will triple from 12,000 to 36,000 vehicles daily. Traffic on the Mercer corridor (between I-5 and Elliott) will increase as if there isn’t too much traffic on the Mercer Mess and as if the Queen Anne neighborhood won’t mind more traffic zooming through a widened Mercer redesignated a freight corridor.

    The surface/transit option favored by mayor Mcginn does not rule out an eventual (sooner rather than later) cut/cover tunnel. Don’t look now, but Seattle’s environmenalist-types are being led down the garden path toward a faux ecosystem on the waterfront.

  • wells

    The ‘stacked’ cut-cover tunnel alternative in the SDEIS is 6-lanes (with wide shoulders) and built while the AWV remains in place. All studies show this cut-cover displaces the least amount of traffic onto surface streets (Alaskan Way, Mercer, Denny Way).

    The traffic displaced onto Alaskan Way with the bored tunnel will triple from 12,000 to 36,000 vehicles daily. Traffic on the Mercer corridor (between I-5 and Elliott) will increase as if there isn’t too much traffic on the Mercer Mess and as if the Queen Anne neighborhood won’t mind more traffic zooming through a widened Mercer redesignated a freight corridor.

    The surface/transit option favored by mayor Mcginn does not rule out an eventual (sooner rather than later) cut/cover tunnel. No building downtown, including the AWV during construction, faces the risk of a destabilized foundation.

  • Natehc

    You can believe what you want, but there is no data to back up your assertion.

    Ever since bicycles have been around, people have used them, and they will continue to use them for the foreseeable future. The only fad we’ve had is over the last 40 years when people have forced not to cycle by urban planning laws.

  • Natehc

    You can believe what you want, but there is no data to back up your assertion.

    Ever since bicycles have been around, people have used them, and they will continue to use them for the foreseeable future. The only fad we’ve had is over the last 40 years when people have forced not to cycle by urban planning laws.

  • Natehc

    You can believe what you want, but there is no data to back up your assertion.

    Ever since bicycles have been around, people have used them, and they will continue to use them for the foreseeable future. The only fad we’ve had is over the last 40 years when people have forced not to cycle by urban planning laws.

  • sarah

    How much bigger the space is for cars? Have you compared the width of two cars passing each other on a street to the width of two persons walking side-by-side lately?

  • sarah

    You must know he meant the DBT.

  • David Sucher

    “How much bigger the space is for cars?”

    It depends but the space for cars is at least a 3:1 ratio.

    “Have you compared the width of two cars passing each other on a street to the width of two persons walking side-by-side lately?”

    As a matter of fact, yes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BOQRTLVNUYUYCI6EO4JGVOHGV4 Zef

    Yes, widening highways does increase capacity and eases congestion a small amount in the short term. The problem is that widening highways always uses valuable land! Maybe in rural areas this is not much of a concern, but highways in urban or even suburban areas are eating up land that usually could be used for better purposes. In cities highways usually have a negative effect as well by dividing neighborhoods and causing blight.

    The main problem is we build our highways with capacity for peak times. This is a really inefficient use of land because most of the time most lanes are empty. If we had a magic road that could expand and contract that would be awesome, but we don’t. One major advantage of both bus and rail transit is that peak capacity is handled not by expanding the number of lanes or tracks, but by running vehicles more frequently or using longer vehicles. Thus we increase linear capacity rather than horizontal capacity. When transit is built right it is simply a more efficient use of land for transportation.

    Your point about arterials is one I hear a lot that I don’t really understand. Why exactly do we want arterials to sit empty or uncongested while freeways are congested? I have often found I can drive on arterials from South Seattle way up to North Seattle faster than taking the freeway, yet barely anyone does that. There is a perception that the freeway should be faster, so everyone takes it, and we end up with arterials being used inefficiently while the highway is congested. Maybe if the highway was either tolled or general purpose lanes reduced, more people would realize that there is a whole lot of unutilized roadway on the arterials. There is also a general benefit to businesses along arterials in having more people using arterials, even if the roads end up congested. Highways often hurt businesses as people bypass once-bustling commercial corridors.

  • Barleywine

    Yikes!
    You make some of best arguments here all in one post.

    From SE Seattle it’s Boeing Access Road to SODO or Georgetown, Rainier/Boren to downtown, or Rainier/23rd to U-district or North Seattle, LWB for a nice drive along the lake, Rainier to Renton.

    Bus or rail when I want to linger downtown.

    I-5 is for Bellingham or Portland; maybe South Center or Seatac.

  • sarah

    The point is that cars NEED more space because they’re bigger. And people generally don’t walk in streets; they walk on the sidewalk or at the side of the road. Do you expect equality in inches?

    Oh never mind. This is silly.

  • JD

    Thus we get middle-class white Southerners demanding “their country” back.

    This is an article written by an idiot masquerading as a bigot. Whose talking points are being regurgitated here? I have no conception of middle-class white southerners wanting their country back. It’s cherry picking at its worst. Is the author referring to Bill Clinton or Mike Huckabee? Or some old news reel from the 50′s?

    The problem here. Critical mass… they seriously damaged the publics view of the carless.

  • David Sucher

    And priceless.

  • Barleywine

    As a middle-class white Southerner I also don’t know what the heck he’s talking about. I think it’s just stuff passed around between people that have never lived anyplace else in the country in the last 50 years.

    But it’s valuable shorthand. We need that.
    We have nothing else.

  • Anonymous

    Why would you think this is a “lie”? Do you think David Roberts is intent on convincing an entire city of people that has walked under the structure that they cannot? Or is it more likely that you are misinterpreting his remark as meaning “physically blocking pedestrian access” when that is clearly not what he means?

  • Anonymous

    SeaTowner, in your rush to be right, you completely ignored what Natehc wrote. Natehc was not comparing cars to buses, he was comparing car’s to bicycles. Go back and read the post you replied to and I suggest apologizing.

  • Barleywine

    I think when he says “separates downtown from the waterfront” it is a little disingenuous. Visually for a few, maybe.
    But ivan is right that if the viaduct disappeared today there would be absolutely no difference to the average person. They would still have to take the elevator, or the market steps, or the harbor steps, or some street near pioneer square to get to the waterfront.
    Getting rid of the viaduct would provide nothing unless they put in a very big slide. That would be cool, though.

  • Anonymous

    Well, maybe YOU don’t feel the giant concrete structure makes any difference to how people experience the waterfront, but many in the city disagree and that’s ok. It doesn’t have to be a lie or disingenuous, it’s just a difference of opinion/perception.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, under the tunnel option the surface streets are leaned upon to handle 2/3 of viaduct traffic or 80,000 cars. Why then are we spending nearly all of the money in the tunnel plan on the remaining 1/3 of trips?

  • Anonymous
  • Barleywine

    It’s just that “privileges” thing again. And the “middle class white Southerners” thing.
    Not so different from “commie”, “Towel head”, “fascist”, “Christian” or what ever the BS of the moment is.

    I like the thing he’s trying to say, but I don’t like the way he speaks.

    We have real conservatives on the other side of the mountains, on the other side of the lake, and on the other side of the ship canal. Plenty in Olympia, too.
    No need for wild rhetoric about “Southerners.”

  • Anonymous

    Um, wrong thread?

  • Barleywine

    I was going to say that…

    But it’s really not the wrong thread.
    He basically says in the first paragraph “Hey, I’m an idiot! Ignore everything below.” Then provides some reasonable things. Several paragraphs of reasonable things, including the ugliness of the viaduct (ugly in 2011, anyway).

    Then he ends with “Hey, I’m a Bitterlake idiot! I have an ax to grind!”

    So, no. It wasn’t the wrong thread after all.
    If we’re going to win this battle, and I think I’m on your side, we need honest warriors.

  • J Hodges

    War?
    WAR???

    Why do liberals always have to use violent rhetoric that incites atrocities?

  • Anc

    Didn’t the PI or someone do a search and could find no actual proof of this sidewalk promise? No city document or documented statement by a city official, just second hand reports…

  • wells

    There are 35,000 vehicles that access the AWV in Lower Belltown. Another 5,000 travel between Lower Belltown and Lake Union via the Battery Street Tunnel. This is the main traffic displaced onto surface streets.

    Another 20,000 vehicles that access downtown at 1st Ave via the Seneca and Columbia ramps are also displaced. However, it is smart to reduce traffic on the dangerously steep side-streets leading to those ramps and smart because 1st Ave has too much traffic for Seattle’s main pedestrian & transit-oriented corridor.

    Estimating 15,000 of the 35,000 that access the AWV in Lower Belltown pay the toll, a total of 46,000 vehicles are displaced onto surface streets. Some of the 64,000 thru-traffic is expected to opt out of paying the toll, but there is no official estimate; figure 20,000 diverted to I-5 rather than surface streets. Under this rational estimate (with toll) the DBT serves only 40% of AWV traffic.

    The environmental impact of the displaced traffic is severe, especially along the Mercer corridor. But, Seattle’s environmentalist-types are currently distracted with eco-dreams of a super-neato environmentally-like awesome touristy waterfront, nevermind the traffic on Alaskan Way which triples from 12,000 to 36,000 vehicles daily, beyond the Gehl Architects study which draws the line at 25,000 vehicles for an ideal amount of traffic for pedestrian-oriented district.

    All studies show the cut-cover tunnel displaces the least amount of traffic, poses little risk, creates more jobs, uses less concrete and recycles more, etc etc. Boo hoo, it’ll be a tewwibul inconveenyance. Waah.

  • Storm

    The existence of a history proves what exactly? Cars have a long and glorious history with the added benefit of having enough space to get laid in as a teenager.

    I’ll bet a testicle in 10 years this will all be looked back on as a nice fad for young white people and if you’re lucky, bike commuters in Seattle may reach a high of what….5%?

  • Anonymous

    The amount of surface traffic is just one environmental impact, the total amount of traffic (and emissions producing vehicles) is another consideration. I agree that both the deep bore tunnel and the surface transit option allow too many cars to use surface streets but the solution to this problem is to price surface streets to achieve whatever level of traffic we’d like to have.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think the history of the bicycle proves anything, though one can infer from it that your entire premise is mistaken. The dynamics of bicycle usage in the US and the rest of the world are decidedly different. In the US adult cycling peaked around 1900 and then went into major decline from which it is now recovering. In Europe it remained highly popular as a means of transportation. Cities such as Copenhage, Malmo Sweden and others have experimented with bicycle oriented planning and achieved massive numbers of people who find that bicycles make the most sense for day to day transportation. In the US cycling has experienced more modest gains but has lacked the level of government support that many European cities provide.

    Prediction is hard, especially of the future, but the following trends are manifest or emerging:

    1. young people are driving less, idolizing cars less
    2. the world is either at or approaching peak oil production
    3. public policy makers in the US are trying to move away from automobile dominated transportation systems.

    All of these point towards bicycle usage for day to day transportation increasing. As to the specific level of bicycle commuting achieved in any given city, that will depend upon the strength of the above trends in any given time/place.

    I REALLY wouldn’t bet any body parts on this 100+ year old extremely popular energy saving invention going away, if I were you.

  • sarah

    Who said that environmentalists or cyclists are “liberals”?

  • sarkhaiku

    irony fail and
    quibble delight, who said lib-
    erals are . . .uptight?

  • Actually…

    Your question is misplaced as this editorial is a response to a “conservative” author who used the term “war” in his article entitled “Seattle’s War on Cars Is a War on Drivers.” The link to the original conservative article is at the top of this page.

  • Mr. X

    Just because the City was careful not to put the promises they made to the areas to be annexed in writing doesn’t mean they weren’t made.

    You know – kinda like how no one was told that the neighborhood plans that were written to get people to buy off on massively increasing the density in their neighborhoods weren’t actually binding.

  • Mikos

    I was pecifically told by an SDOT employee six years ago that sidewalks would be extended (by now) along Aurora all the way to 145th. Still waiting.

    Personally, rather than sidewalks in residential areas, I’d rather see lower speed limits and traffic calming but I understand that doesn’t necessarily ease the fears of parents of small children.

  • sicksociety

    Not only do we build our highways to accommodate peak usage, but then we drive down them in nearly-empty vehicles! If just half of the cars on the road had four people inside them instead of one, our congestion problems would vanish. We already have the infrastructure, we just aren’t using it efficiently.

  • EvMac

    To anyone who doesn’t think adding capacity creates congestion, I suggest you take a look at the bike lanes crossing the Willamette River in Portland. As more bicycle facilities have been added, the river crossings in Portland have become jammed with bicyclists. Sometimes there are so many bicyclists waiting at lights that they don’t all make it through. For those traffic wonks out there who know what Level of Service (LOS) is, simple observation shows that some Portland bicycle facilities are operating beyond capacity. If we were to follow the same logic as for roads, it’s time to add more bike lanes. Of course, with more people riding than driving, the need to add more motor lanes will (relatively) decrease. And even if every bicycle out there had studded tires on year round, pavement would last many years longer (and require less ground work to support less weight as well).

  • EvMac

    To anyone who doesn’t think adding capacity creates congestion, I suggest you take a look at the bike lanes crossing the Willamette River in Portland. As more bicycle facilities have been added, the river crossings in Portland have become jammed with bicyclists. Sometimes there are so many bicyclists waiting at lights that they don’t all make it through. For those traffic wonks out there who know what Level of Service (LOS) is, simple observation shows that some Portland bicycle facilities are operating beyond capacity. If we were to follow the same logic as for roads, it’s time to add more bike lanes. Of course, with more people riding than driving, the need to add more motor lanes will (relatively) decrease. And even if every bicycle out there had studded tires on year round, pavement would last many years longer (and require less ground work to support less weight as well).

  • Storm

    Well, I’m an actual European and I can tell you why we cycled there:

    1. people have less disposable income for cars and

    2. We lived in 2000 year old cities that were designed before cars so cycling was easy.

    So maybe in another 1000 years we in Seattle will have European-like density and less disposable income but until then, cycling will be nothing but a hobby/fad for college educated white kids with no families to move about.

  • Storm

    “popular energy saving invention going away, if I were you.”

    I didn’t say it would, I said it would probably never get above 5% of all commutes in Seattle. Learn to read. Like all the other white, college educated Seattleites, I cycle too. Every weekend…for a hobby.

  • Storm

    “1. young people are driving less, idolizing cars less”

    The very definition of a fad. What about electric cars or do you discount them?

  • Gomez

    Actually, I wonder if urbanists who fabricate the concept of a war on cars have ever been to another city with minimal bus transit or no real transit system, like oh Salt Lake City, Jacksonville, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Columbus or almost any small or mid size town in America.

    Plant yourself in any random non-elite American city and tell me what the transit and walking situation is like there.

  • Gomez

    Clearly that blight has spent the last 50 years destroying Downtown Seattle and the Waterfront. Look how horrible it is and always has been.

  • Gomez

    Don’t forget that regions that build or expand highways are almost always growing and naturally there are going to be more vehicles on the road than before. That’s why you’re building the highways in the first place.

  • Gomez

    Name the portion (streets).

  • Gomez

    This is so easily refutable that I think a pro-transit/cycling wonk posted this either to give their cohorts a straw-man to beat on, or to troll the thread.

  • Anonymous

    1. Lack of access to autos due to lack of disposable income cannot possibly explain the use of bicycles in Europe where most adult cyclists also own cars and people are in general as well off if not more so than the average American. A more likely explanation is that a combination of a stiff gas tax and making cycling easy and safe contributes to people choosing it over driving.

    2. For sure urban design is critical, but choosing to focus only on how old the cities are while ignoring recent design choices is silly. Within Europes old cities one sees dramatic differences in how planners choose to accomodate cyclists (or not)

    Density is a function of people per square mile. Copenhagen, the premier cycling city, has a density two times larger than Seattle’s. Since Seattle is not adding any land, the question is “how fast can Seattle’s population grow?” We do not know what will happen in the next 50 years, but there was a period of the 20th century from 1910 to 1960 during which Seattle’s population doubled. While we could see Copenhagen level density in Seattle within 50 years, a 50 year growth rate of half that would still have us achieving Copenhagen level density within the next 100 years, not the next 1000. I’ll let any ambitious readers calculate yearly growth rates necessary to achieve these long term population increases.

    Also, interesting that you bring up childless college educated white folks. In Seattle these people make up a disproportionate percentage of the population so your supposition that these are the main people who cycle would seem to weigh in favor of bicycle friendly policies.

  • Anonymous

    Just to ground our conversation, I thought I’d look up “the very definition of a fad”. Here’s what dictionary.com has to say: “a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., esp. one followed enthusiastically by a group.”

    There is not sufficient data at the moment to identify whether this trend will reverse itself, level off, or continue. In the absense of data in this regard it would be premature to declare this trend “the very definition of a fad” since the trend has not proved itself temporary (yet).

    I think the “green” motives of cyclist are over-stated in popular press, the vast majority of people cycle for practical reasons related to travel time, health, and economics. If/when electric cars become as affordable as combustion engine vehicles then these dynamics will still mostly be in place.*

    *Electric cars may be cheaper to operate, possibly modifying the economic incentives slight. They will still cost more to operate than a bicycle.

  • Storm

    “Europe where most adult cyclists also own cars and people are in general as well off if not more so than the average American.”

    Well, they’re not. Wages are lower, taxes are higher. There’ not a stat in the world that hows otherwise. It’ why I moved to the US.

    I lived in what would be considered an upper middle and upper class part of two major European cities and families simply did not have the kind of disposable cash I see in the US even in middle class families.

    “Seattle these people make up a disproportionate percentage of the population ”

    Yes, but not the tax base which i why Seattle leaders ignore the shrill anti-car mob. McGinn will be gone net election and the tunnel will be well on it’ way. Enjoy.

  • Storm

    ” They will still cost more to operate than a bicycle.”

    Not in 10 years, they’ll be well in range for the 20 year old college educated white kids who are enjoying the current bike fad today.

  • Anonymous

    Ok, perhaps I misunderstood. Please clarify, is cycling a “fad” that by definition will decline in prevolence, or is it something that will always be used by a minority (say 5% of commuters), what could be described as more of a “niche”? Your post implies both of these options and I would like to better understand what you mean.

  • Nemo

    It may not be just a Fad, but quoting the percentage of Single people without children does not support the assertion. It also misses the point.

    Seattle is not bike frriendly. The terran and the streets are not bike friendly. The number of people who bike are dependant upon weather (most poor for the majority of the year), and those who are able to make it a viable option (again, NOT a majority).

    Bikes need grade separated lanes, which are just too costly for a city of this size and geography, and for the roads that were desgined for motorized vehiclees that weigh a lot more.

    Pandering to the bike lobby can be a smokesreen sometimes. The hard work in limitiing automobile travel is in putting in MASS transit (not bikes, sorry), that provides a feasilbe alternative, not placting the minority.

    So, far that has not been done. ST is a joke. Until it is, everything else is cart before horse.

  • MTN

    Dave Roberts will have a light rail station at 145th in 2023.

  • http://eldan.co.uk/ eldan

    Who said it destroyed Downtown? I certainly didn’t, and I don’t see any implication of that in the original post.

    As for the waterfront, let’s be honest: it’s a horribly underused asset, and the viaduct is a large part of why. I’ve lived in two other cities on the sea, neither of whose waterfront afforded the incredible views that ours does, and neither of which had any better weather than us. In both, the downtown waterfront would be packed with office workers on any dry weekday lunchbreak, any time of year. Why not Seattle?

  • butthead

    the horror…the horror…

  • http://opusthepoet.wordpress.com/ Opus the Poet

    Yes, I think she’s starting to get it. It IS silly to transport one person (usually) with about a ton and a half of steel and plastics while burning fossil fuels, when you can move that same person almost as quickly with 20-30 pounds of steel and plastic and about 1/3 of the space by using a bicycle. Add in the fact that that person will be healthier walking or riding the bike than if they sit on their butt driving the car, and that fewer people will be killed since the number one cause of death in the US for people under 35 is motor vehicle wrecks, and you have a win-win situation.

  • Mr. X

    I walked halfway across Copenhagen in less than an hour. It’s flat as a pancake and very compact, and if I lived and worked there I’d ride a bike too (well, at least in October, where it was cold but not wet or snowy).

    Seattle? Not so much.

  • Mr. X

    Oh please, no one in America has been “forced not to cycle”. And 40 years is not a fad.

    (PS – I did get busted for riding my bike down Montlake Blvd from 24th to U-Village once, but that was because I was 7 years old at the time).

  • Mr. X

    Oh please, no one in America has been “forced not to cycle”. And 40 years is not a fad.

    (PS – I did get busted for riding my bike down Montlake Blvd from 24th to U-Village once, but that was because I was 7 years old at the time).

  • d.p.

    “…as evidenced by our higher share of commuters who use public transit.”

    Commuters use transit as adequate rates — 19.5% is actually that impressive — thanks to Metro’s obsession with (and massive subsidizing of) one-way express routes that exist only at rush hour.

    The rest of the time, Seattle’s modal share is pathetic, because the rest of Metro’s service is pathetic.

  • d.p.

    “…as evidenced by our higher share of commuters who use public transit.”

    Commuters use transit at adequate rates — 19.5% is not actually that impressive — thanks to Metro’s obsession with (and massive subsidizing of) one-way express routes that exist only at rush hour.

    The rest of the time, Seattle’s modal share is pathetic, because the rest of Metro’s service is pathetic.

  • Mark Early in Seattle

    Which Seattle waterfront are you talking about? The 6 block Coney Island tourist boardwalk or the wonderful Myrtle Edwards urban park and the 3/4 mile stretch south of it toward the Seattle Aquarium? When Peter Steinbruck’s staff floated the trial balloon of removing the Viaduct and shoehorning in an elite urban vision for Seattle’s Coney Island, 3 Architecture/Urban Design professors from the UW lambasted his naive proposal; no clear reason for office workers to use the area at lunchtime, horrible location…. location …. location (next to an arterial even with the removal of the Viaduct). The Profs who were hand picked by Peter for the design review suggested improving access to Mrytle Edwards. Tearing down the Viaduct is all about Cars-are-evil with a surface solution that the backers know will never work …. that’s the whole idea. Our betters want us on a bus. Sometimes that is a good idea, but for the majority of my day, no thanks, does not work and can not work for most people unless they put absolutely no value on their time. Our all-electric Nissan LEAF arrives sometime around July, or so the dealership says for now. Stalled traffic, and near empty buses at off-peak hours are bad for the environment, while our Nissan LEAF is green tech for the rest of us.

  • manofoar

    This is a fundamentally flawed response to the original allegation. You are assuming two things:

    1)That the city population will remain static
    2)That the city footprint will not change.

    Yes, in that specific scenario, due to the phyisical fact that people cannot drive more than one car at a time, then increasing roads would decrease congestion. However, in reality, this is not the case, and there are ample case studies and examples to look at. Phoenix, for example. I grew up there, and remember when the 101 and 202 East and West highways were put in – about 100 miles of freeway added in total. Phoenix still has one of the 10 worst traffic ratings in the nation – and it was in the top 10 BEFORE the loop went in as well. Why? Because population has increased, and metro footprint has exploded. With lack of dense design, people have no choice but to drive everywhere – and with more people moving in, more people with cars are on the roads.

    This is why simply adding more roads doesn’t work – cities grow, more people get more cars, and we end up with the same – or worse – congestion.

    We need to get people to NOT NEED a vehicle, and the best way to do that is to build dense – encourage bicycle and pedistrian and mass transit use, discourage individual car use for commuting, and create a safe, dense urban culture. The first step is in creating places for those alternative transit options to go, and make them easy to use. This means creating the resources for them – bike routes, sidewalks, and rapid transit.

  • Hikerobby

    salt lake’s is actually great, I grew up riding the bus everywhere–you can get everywhere, and with N/s and e/w light rail–its even quicker the past ten years. Sorry…. salt lake beats seattle hands down…. which is pathetic for a nw city