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City Attorney: Conlin Didn’t Violate Charter

This post has been updated with comments from Mayor Mike McGinn’s legal counsel and spokesman.

City attorney Pete Holmes said in a statement this afternoon hat city council president Richard Conlin did not violate the city charter by signing a supplemental draft environmental impact statement on the deep-bore tunnel. (Mayor Mike McGinn, who wanted another week to look at the document, maintains that Conlin violated the city charter by signing the document, because the charter reserves that right for the mayor; Conlin said the city attorney’s office told him it was fine for him to sign.)

Conlin’s signature is OK, Holmes said, because it merely affirms the city’s intent to remain as co-lead on the tunnel replacement project, retaining a seat at the bargaining table with the state department of transportation.

“His signature does not certify that the SDEIS meets the legal standards for a EIS,” Holmes said. “Because Conlin’s signature does not purport to certify the adequacy of the SDEIS, it is not an affront to the executive authority of Mayor Mike McGinn. The signature neither binds the City nor impedes the mayor’s powers.

“Conlin’s signature will have the effect that WSDOT and the City Council want it to have consistent with other laws.”

However, McGinn’s head legal counsel, Carl Marquardt, said tonight that Conlin’s signature line on the SDEIS says he’s signing “on behalf of the city of Seattle,” so he is overstepping his bounds as council president and going beyond expressing the city’s intent to remain as co-lead on the project.

“If you look at the document itself, it says we are issuing an EIS on behalf of the city Department of Transportation and the city of Seattle, and Conlin is signing off on it, so it’s something more than what Pete Holmes is describing,” Marquardt said.

City council viaduct oversight committee chair Sally Bagshaw introduced legislation this morning that would “ratify” Conlin’s signature. The legislation says that given that it is city policy “that the Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT) continue to act as co-lead” on the project, “the City Council ratifies and confirms Council President Richard Conlin’s signature on the Supplemental Draft Environmental Impact Statement as signifying the City’s intent to remain co-lead.

If the mayor’s office is right, it’s unclear what McGinn can actually do. Marquardt acknowledged that the council didn’t know what action McGinn could potentially take. “It’s not clear to us what the implication of [the ordinance] would be,” Marquardt said. McGinn spokesman Aaron Pickus acknowledged that the mayor could veto the ordinance, but that would have little impact against a united (or nearly united) city council, which could overturn any veto.

“You’re jumping ahead,” Pickus said. “In order to start talking about whether the mayor’s going to veto or not there has to be an ordinance on his desk, and there is not yet.”




  • gloomy gus

    Hee hee!

  • alexjon

    And what does this do to the narrative of an out of control city council? Not much, I suppose.

  • BTS

    Out of control city council? How about an out of control mayor!

  • Anonymous

    McGinn keeps digging his own tunnel.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    Were are the SDEIS-ers demanding to see the signature and document?

  • Grover

    I assume we should be expecting an apology from the Mayor to Conlin at any minute, right?

  • David Sucher

    Have any of you folks ever read a legal opinion? The kind typically issued by the City Attorney’s office?

    I have read quite a few and I have never read anything as sloppy and undocumented as what Holmes just did. It’s not very convincing — no statement of issue and facts, no background law…just his off-the-cuff musings. Don’t count on his statement saying anything much significant if it ever gets to Court.

  • alexjon

    Oh no, you disagree with an elected official and get offended when someone else suggests your anti-heroes are to blame. Boohoo.

  • seandr

    Erica (and Josh), please follow up with McGinn on his solemn, sanctimonious, and completely false statements about Conlin breaking law.

  • alexjon

    The funny part, Mr. Baker, is that you seem deadset on foisting some kind of right wing persona on McGinn (and O’Brien), something you’ve done for a while now.

    Last I checked, however, right wingers weren’t opposed to road expansion, penalties for homelessness and unchecked ignorance of a system of checks and balances. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t support increasing transportation choices, boosting schools, reaching out to a broad spectrum of overlooked neighborhoods or progressive taxation.

    Maybe you’re better off with your SP anti-urban screed of “McGinn and his f’ing polar bears”?

  • alexjon

    I seem to recall polling trends over the summer showing advances in favorable ratings for the Mayor and a downtrend for the council and governor.

    Must be difficult to hear in this little anti-urban echo chamber. No wonder Dan Bertolet is enemy number 1 to you guys.

  • alexjon

    Hurt feelings in a City Hall? Oh dear.

    Some of you guys, I swear! Such a hive of negativity! It’s so puzzling to watch people completely unaware of their near-polar opposition to the mainstream. This must be what the normal Seattle voter, progressive and green, looks like in a city like Fresno or Norman.

  • seandr

    You’re missing the point.

    The cheap, divisive, and dishonest rhetorical and political tactics of America’s right are just as cheap, divisive, and dishonest when enlisted for left wing causes.

  • Selma

    Haven’t you been crying on this website all day long? Glass houses and all.

  • alexjon

    Like Godden’s Crosscut article that references Mein Kampf?

  • alexjon

    That’s an interesting distortion, but I like your style! You’ve got moxie.

  • alexjon

    Erica and Josh, please report the news in a style dictated to you by people with a clear opinion on the topic at hand. Clearly this is what you’re supposed to do as journalists.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    Wow, you are a making up all kinds of things.

    No, I am “foisting” on McGinn (not said a word about OBrien) that he is not looking to cut anything to “conserve” anything, but that he wants to spend the same money and more on other things. Many of the things I agree with him on I see he is not going to be able to accomplish because he insist on making arguments about him, therefore dragging him wherever he goes.

    Josh (ask him, he’s not shy) is the one claiming the closet republican label for McGinn. I do not agree with that, not even a little. He is actively looking for ways to increase taxes and fees to spend 13 million dollars on Walk/Bike/Wait for the bus. I have nothing against the idea, though I am struggling with walking to a closed library as an improvement. I think that plan could get scaled back a little more, does the Licten street think need to be fully funded in 2011/2012? Couldn’t that go from 2012 and into 2013? If he starts down that path in 2012 then forcing the issue into 2013/2014 budget to complete it is not too hard. If you want paint for bike lanes and road diets, there it is.
    I’m pure evil, I know, the upzones must be fed a steady diet of public money, but they are going to have to run in place for an extra year, at least until those giant cubes fill up with more people and the posts for the auction signs are removed.

    Maybe you could provide evidence of my “foisting”?

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    Yes, I took a mass media law class (Com 440, keeps me from slandering alexjon right now).If he had used fewer and more meaningful words I would overreach for a Brief statement.I think lawnerd was on point writing an informal opinion.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    Oh stop, he reacted rashly in the moment.
    They should follow up to see if McGinn now sees himself and the executive branch “out” of the mix from now on.

    I think he should.

  • seandr

    Sorry, can’t be of much help there. I haven’t a clue what article you mean, and you evidently are too lazy to provide a link or quote. Guess you’ll have to work that one out yourself. Good luck, grasshopper!

    Here’s a more immediate example for you – attempting to subvert a tunnel project through administrative inaction, while pretending to do otherwise.

  • herrnichte

    Now you’re just making stuff up. She never made any reference to “Mein Kampf”. You are now officially guilty of appealing to Godwin’s law.

    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    That didn’t take long.

  • Mocha

    One of the things McGinn could do is resign.

  • Jakers

    alexjon, you have relieved me of my guilt when I comment three or four times on the same post.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    Erica, thank you for posting the page Conlin actually signed. That was something I really wanted to see.
    For some reason, maybe is was the arguments being made, that not only did Conlin sign a document, but that there was some line on it that said something like “Mayor of Seattle”, or “Executive”. No matter what, that would have been a no-no.
    Being his place to do so, etc., that was a different question I had answered by the city attorney and LawNerd.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    I hope not, watching McGinn operate and deliver his budget is not only entertaining but makes me appreciate Dow Constantine. That guy has some similar goals, but a hellofa lot worse financial situation to work in, and actual Republicans to deal with, and not just evil left leaning centrists ready to Rally for Sanity, like me.

  • Brent

    We must have watched different videos. The video I watched showed the mayor calmly laying out the case that President Conlin did not have the authority to sign the SDEIS on the city’s behalf.

    The only rashness is the foaming at the mouth on these blogs. Oh, and Conlin’s signature.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr Baker

    No, we watched the same video, we have different opinions.

    Turns out McGinn was wrong, that was my point. No reason to keep beating him over the head with his demand to have a signature removed.
    He does his own damage, he doesn’t need any help.

    I guess I am starting to feel sorry for him, which I think means I have accepted that he is who he is, flawed and short lived.

  • Naguse

    As someone who is not only supported Holmes but also advocated for my social justice folks to elect him- I am disappointed. He sold us out to the specail interest, and tunnel cheer leaders. I am not sure if he will enjoy same level of respect in the eyes of the social justice community. this is a sad day for all those who care the city of Seattle, and the rule of law.

  • David Sucher

    Mr. Baker.
    It’s not accurate to say that “McGinn was wrong” — Holmes opinion does not document the matter. It’s not good enough for Holmes to say (in essence) “Conlin was correct” unless Holmes can show the work — show the legal thought process by which he comes to the conclusion.
    I donated to Holmes, voted for him and had high hopes — but so far I am very disappointed as he has just compounded the sticky situation and makes it more difficult for a peaceful resolution. Unless someone can come to a quick compromise I fear that McGinn will be forced to pursue some sort of legal action. Now Holmes has tainted his own participation with his poorly thought-through statement.

    I ask you Mr. Baker, is this a good precedent? Do you want to see Councilmembers (even the Council President) signing agreements outside of normal process. Where are the boundaries? Whenever the Council is impatient with the Mayor?

    And of course it goes the other way — do you want a Mayor to make up his own laws?

    Please think through the implications beyond this one instance.

  • Sarah

    Holmes didn’t issue a legal opinion; there was no need for that. He simjply issued a statement. If the City Attorney had to issue a formal legal opinion for every tussle between the executive and the council, that would take all his time. I certainly hope no one voted for him to do what they want. He’s an attorney, not a legislator.

  • Reasoned

    Wow, are YOU under the delusion that McGinn, O’Brien, Bertolet, and you are the political mainstream in this town.

  • Anonymous

    Somewhere in Boulder, Colorado Tom Carr must be looking at his nice new paycheck and be saying to himself, “I’m so glad I lost that election!”

  • monorail

    Is there anything in the charter that says, “the council president must act as a pathetic little lapdog for the Seattle-haters of the state legislature— even if that means stabbing his own constituents in the back?”

  • David Sucher

    The next think you folks might want to consider is “What is the significance, if any, of co-lead status?”

    Personally I have no idea.

  • SeattleRez

    What would have been gained if the City lost co-lead status?

  • SeattleRez

    Cant win for loosing on this one. Had this been something different and Conlin not stepped up and demonstrated some team work and not let the ball drop, the city would be singing his praises.

  • Brent

    But since Mr. Conlin performed this unethical act on behalf of a project the voters oppose, the city is not seeking his praises. Oh, well.

  • Brent

    The city was not going to lose co-lead status. WSDOT would have granted the city council the extension they were unwilling to grant the mayor. Instead, they will leave the i’s undotted and the t’s uncrossed by considering President Conlin’s signature to be valid for purposes of the city’s approval of the SDEIS.