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McGinn Clarifies City’s Taser Policy

Mayor Mike McGinn, who spoke to reporters in his office today, explained why Seattle Police Department officer Ian Birk was not equipped with a Taser when he shot and killed John T. Williams, a Native American carver, at the corner of Boren and Howell two days ago.

McGinn said the city made “a conscious decision to not provide all officers with Tasers, but to provide them to officers with a certain level of experience and training.” He said police chief John Diaz told him that other cities that have provided all officers with Tasers had seen problems with excessive use of force; just yesterday, a man died in Spanaway after being Tasered by police.

At a press conference yesterday afternoon, Chief Diaz said the police department has questions about Birk’s initial account of the shooting, including his claim that Williams advanced toward him with a knife. McGinn said he did not know whether the case had been referred to the department’s Office of Professional Accountability yet.

McGinn said that despite several high-profile instances of police violence in recent months, he still believes “Chief Diaz is the right man for the job.”


  • http://43rddemocrats.org Michael M.

    Did Nickels have this many pressers? It seems like McGinn is hanging with the press every day…what about managing the city (without trying to bully MOHAI into giving up money)?

  • TeamSeattle

    Wasn’t Diaz the *only* man for the job, since prior experience in East Palo Alto wasn’t really considered applicable? Time to re-open the search.

    Also, for all the press conferences McGinn has been having, why is he STILL SILENT on the Rainier Beach violence? Why is this a “tragedy” while a 10 year old robbing a 17 year old on a public bus gets… no attention at all?

  • ivan

    A cop shoots a homeless man five times and you focus on McGinn? Pathetic!

  • seandr

    It’s not the fault of McGinn or Diaz that this rookie cop lost his cool and killed a man for no good reason.

    However, these two are responsible for how the SPD responds.

  • Mikeg

    “a conscious decision to not provide all officers with Tasers, but to provide them to officers with a certain level of experience and training”

    sweet, apparently the city thinks guns are less lethal than tasers. who the fuck is running SPD and why haven’t they been canned?

  • Stupid Hippie

    Did he send the city’s hobo pooper-scooping and ass-wiping unit over to do the cleanup?

  • http://43rddemocrats.org Michael M.

    While it is not directly their fault, Diaz has perpetuated, and even expanded (does that fit here?) a culture of “police can do no wrong” at SPD. This is why it’s so sad that the Sacramento Police Chief saw the clusterfuck that is Seattle Politics and said “no thanks.” He had a track record of reaching out, working with communities, and being willing to buck the current culture in SPD.

    McGinn could have – should have – re-opened the process, and found someone better. It’s like the people who did the search put Diaz in to appease SPOG, picked the East Palo Alto Chief as a throwaway candidate, in an attempt to force the Mayor’s hand with Mr. Sacramento.

    Obviously things didn’t go as planned (or, as I just declared they were planned – FTR, I have no idea how the hell the last two became part of the top 3).

  • David B.

    Mayor McGinn saying “I think Chief Diaz is the right man for the job” after the recent police shooting sounds a lot like Bush saying “Brownie, you’re doing a heckuva job” post-Katrina, or mayor Nickels giving the city a “B” grade on snow removal during the 2008 snow storms.

    To make matters worse, when I hear “a conscious decision to not provide all officers with Tasers, but to provide them to officers with a certain level of experience and training” I interpret that to mean “We can’t trust our officers to make good decisions regarding the use of non-lethal force, but we don’t see any issue with them carrying guns and using lethal force.”

    First: Do we really want to supply deadly weapons to officers we can’t trust with non deadly weapons?

    Second: Why can’t McGinn/ Diaz think before they make statements like this? Don’t they realize we’ll think they’re being completely ridiculous?

  • David B.

    Mayor McGinn saying “I think Chief Diaz is the right man for the job” after the recent police shooting sounds a lot like Bush saying “Brownie, you’re doing a heckuva job” post-Katrina, or mayor Nickels giving the city a “B” grade on snow removal during the 2008 snow storms.

    To make matters worse, when I hear “a conscious decision to not provide all officers with Tasers, but to provide them to officers with a certain level of experience and training” I interpret that to mean “We can’t trust our officers to make good decisions regarding the use of non-lethal force, but we don’t see any issue with them carrying guns and using lethal force.”

    First: Do we really want to supply deadly weapons to officers we can’t trust with non deadly weapons?

    Second: Why can’t McGinn/ Diaz think before they make statements like this? Don’t they realize we’ll think they’re being completely ridiculous?

  • Jeremywreal

    Tasers aren’t a “non-lethal force”. They’re “less-lethal force”. The problem comes from the mistaken belief that they are non-lethal, leading to their use as a more convenient way of apprehending people who aren’t 100% compliant with police demands. Cops kill people with tasers on a regular basis.

    I think you’re right about the trust issue. Seattle police officers are very well paid, and we should be able to staff our police force with people who are capable of making the appropriate judgement under pressue. It’s not that difficult.

    Also, what happened to clubs as an appropriate non-lethal force. Do Seattle cops carry them? The proper force progression should go like this: Billy Club -> Taser -> Gun. Unless an officer is being fired upon, there is no reason to skip directly to the last step.

  • http://bruteforcecollaborative.wordpress.com/ bruteforcecollaborative

    exactly. meanwhile up in everett, a clown who actually shot at cops along with several other felonies was apprehended without being murdered.

  • Anonymous

    Did McGinn finally call OPA its real name instead of his make-up name for it?

  • 42-year Seattleite

    I’m beginning to wonder what I can teach my teenage sons about dealing with the police.

    They follow the news. What are they to think when a man on a public sidewalk, minding his own business and whittling a piece of wood with a pocket knife, is cause enough for a cop to stop and initiate a confrontation?

    If this were a white man in pressed chinos and a clean shirt, would that cop have stopped and confronted him? Not a chance.

    I’m serious, I don’t know what to teach my children any more about interacting with the police. I grew up in a community and a culture that taught me that cops were my friends and there to protect me from the bad guys.

    But given the difficulty cops now have in differentiating the bad guys, I am fearful for my sons and my neighbors’ sons.

  • tpn

    Another softball pitch missed by McGinn. He could be all over this as an issue, especially to placate is so-called coalition, if not simply to do the right thing.