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McGinn Proposes Bond Measure, Commercial Parking Tax Hike

Mayor Mike McGinn and Hall Walker from the city’s budget office.

This post has been updated with comments from city council transportation committee chair Tom Rasmussen.

Mayor Mike McGinn proposed a funding plan to pay for the city’s portion of the Alaskan Way Viaduct and seawall replacement project that features his (already proposed) bond measure to pay for the seawall replacement, a 2.5 percent increase in the existing commercial parking tax, and a local improvement district, in which business owners who benefit from the viaduct replacement would pay additional property tax to help pay for it.

The city council would have to approve the seawall ballot measure by August to put it on the ballot by November, or by December to put it on the ballot by February. In his office after the mayor’s briefing, council transportation chair Tom Rasmussen said the council’s main concern with the mayor’s initial proposal to put the seawall on a citywide ballot in May was that it would require a costly special election and wasn’t well-thought-out. Now, he says, a November ballot measure may be possible.

Asked whether the city council—which previously declined to put the seawall proposal on the August ballot, as McGinn initially proposed—had had a change of heart, McGinn said this morning, “We’ve had numerous discussions with [council] staff since January on this, and we’ve reached consensus on accelerating the design elements and accelerating the construction. … Council president Conlin said they were committed to working with us.”

The council would also have to approve increasing the commercial parking tax, something Rasmussen seemed more reluctant to embrace, and implementing an LID, which has long been in the works.

Regarding the commercial parking tax increase, Rasmussen said, “People in the community, especially the business community, are extremely concerned about increasing taxes, especially taxes that affect businesses.” However, Rasmussen acknowledged that commercial parking tax revenues have been coming in higher than expected this year, indicating that higher taxes (which are passed on to consumers) have not deterred people from parking in commercial lots.

McGinn also confirmed that the intent of his proposed Transit Master Plan, which council transportation chair Tom Rasmussen has proposed stalling until the council can sign off on its scope, is to come up with a proposal to build light rail to West Seattle and Ballard. “I think [light rail] should be an element of it,” McGinn said. “If the intention of the council—and I sincerely hope it’s not—if the intention of the council is to narrow the options of what we’re studying to preclude certain options, I think that would be a mistake.”

McGinn also said that he only plans to fund the Transit Master Plan out of the 2007 Bridging the Gap levy for one year. Some Bridging the Gap Oversight Committee members expressed concern about spending Bridging the Gap dollars on transit planning when funding for bike, pedestrian, and other transportation needs is in short supply.




  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    Just what a depopulating down town with a 20 percent vacancy rate needs — more expensive parking.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    Just what a depopulating down town with a 20 percent vacancy rate needs — more expensive parking.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    This comment makes it sound like the commercial vacancies are some unique creature of Seattle. It's not.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    This comment makes it sound like the commercial vacancies are some unique creature of Seattle. It's not.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    No, it isn't! Central Metro areas from New York City to Los Angeles are rapidly depopulating. They are losing out to the more competitive and better liked suburbs which feature low density, better lifestyles and free parking.

    However, that message doesn't seem to have gotten through to city Governments who realize that each and every day their power base is dwindling away from them so they resort to ever more egregious and costly “special effects” like crazy tunnels, bridges to nowhere or overpriced light rail to try and keep the cows in the barn.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    No, it isn't! Central Metro areas from New York City to Los Angeles are rapidly depopulating. They are losing out to the more competitive and better liked suburbs which feature low density, better lifestyles and free parking.

    However, that message doesn't seem to have gotten through to city Governments who realize that each and every day their power based is dwindling away from them so they resort to ever more egregious and costly “special effects” like crazy tunnels, bridges to nowhere or overpriced light rail to try and keep the cows in the barn.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    Your usual anti-urban bias is showing. The commercial vacancies have nothing to do with your provincial views; it's called a global recession.

    Even people in Wisconsin are afflicted, and that's not exactly a hotbed of urbanism.

    Your usual “the cities are bleeding people” arguments will be settled for good once the census numbers are out, either way.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    Your usual anti-urban bias is showing. The commercial vacancies have nothing to do with your provincial views; it's called a global recession.

    Even people in Wisconsin are afflicted, and that's not exactly a hotbed of urbanism.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    The fact that no one wants to rent office space in an “urban setting” shows that I'm anti-urban. Right, thanks. Typical illogic.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    The fact that no one wants to rent office space in an “urban setting” shows that I'm anti-urban. Right, thanks. Typical illogic.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    Uh, have you done any research on this? There are empty spaces EVERYwhere. That's because it's a global recession. It's not a localized Seattle recession, or something that stops at the Los Angeles or NYC or London or Tokyo or Berlin city limits.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    Uh, have you done any research on this? There are empty spaces EVERYwhere. That's because it's a global recession. It's not a localized Seattle recession, or something that stops at the Los Angeles or NYC or London or Tokyo or Berlin city limits.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    Kent vacancy rate is something like 6 percent. Seattle 20 percent. Case closed.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    Kent vacancy rate is something like 6 percent. Seattle 20 percent. Case closed.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    I forgot that Kent was the defining meter of civilization.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    I forgot that Kent was the defining meter of civilization.

  • Anc

    Back that up. Show that vacancies in the central cities rose faster than that in the suburbs.

    I'll wait.

    B/c as usual when it comes to you, the facts show the complete opposite.

    http://boston.bizjournals.com/boston/stories/20…

  • Anc

    Back that up. Show that vacancies in the central cities rose faster than that in the suburbs.

    I'll wait.

    B/c as usual when it comes to you, the facts show the complete opposite.

    http://boston.bizjournals.com/boston/stories/20…

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    From that article you cited:

    “The vacancy rate in the suburbs of Boston was 17.1 percent, up from 12 percent at the end of 2007, according to Colliers. Vacancy rates in the suburbs increased nationally to 15.1 percent.”

    +/- 2%. “Case closed”.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    From that article you cited:

    “The vacancy rate in the suburbs of Boston was 17.1 percent, up from 12 percent at the end of 2007, according to Colliers. Vacancy rates in the suburbs increased nationally to 15.1 percent.”

    +/- 2%. “Case closed”.

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  • gloomy gus

    Joe, always remember arguing with Bailo is like…well, not chasing your own tail, but chasing Bailo's tail.

  • gloomy gus

    Joe, always remember arguing with Bailo is like…well, not chasing your own tail, but chasing Bailo's tail.

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  • Gomez

    Neat! An actual plan!

    See what you did today, Mike McGinn, where you come up with actual steps to do something and propose those? You need to do that ALL the time! That's part of your “job description”.

  • Gomez

    Neat! An actual plan!

    See what you did today, Mike McGinn, where you come up with actual steps to do something and propose those? You need to do that ALL the time! That's part of your “job description”.

  • Mr. X

    I was just up at my Mom's house in Edmonds, and was struck by just how many commercial vacancies there were along the 196th Street corridor. Things are tough all over, Bailo.

    But that said, yes, increasing parking rates significantly is gonna be bad news for Seattle businesses (well, unless they are big box auto-oriented retailers like Northgate North or Westwood Village that provide their own free parking).

  • Mr. X

    I was just up at my Mom's house in Edmonds, and was struck by just how many commercial vacancies there were along the 196th Street corridor. Things are tough all over, Bailo.

    But that said, yes, increasing parking rates significantly is gonna be bad news for Seattle businesses (well, unless they are big box auto-oriented retailers like Northgate North or Westwood Village that provide their own free parking).

  • giffy

    “Asked whether the city council—which previously declined to put the seawall proposal on the August ballot, as McGinn initially proposed—had had a change of heart,'

    Well now that he has a plan, one thats thought out, and that doesn't require a wasteful special election, its not really a surprise the council is more on board. I never heard any of them say they opposed fixing the seawall as much as McGinn's half-assed initial plan.

    Now this is a nice plan, but I don't see why light rail to Ballard and West Seattle can't be part of it. During the campaign I seem to remember that he said these could be built quite quickly. Wouldn't it be nice to say have them up and running by 2012 or 13. If he really wants to kill the tunnel some actually useful transit from Ballard and West Seattle could go a long ass way to convincing enough people its not needed(while I'm a tunnel fan if I had choose I'd take the light rail).

  • giffy

    “Asked whether the city council—which previously declined to put the seawall proposal on the August ballot, as McGinn initially proposed—had had a change of heart,'

    Well now that he has a plan, one thats thought out, and that doesn't require a wasteful special election, its not really a surprise the council is more on board. I never heard any of them say they opposed fixing the seawall as much as McGinn's half-assed initial plan.

    Now this is a nice plan, but I don't see why light rail to Ballard and West Seattle can't be part of it. During the campaign I seem to remember that he said these could be built quite quickly. Wouldn't it be nice to say have them up and running by 2012 or 13. If he really wants to kill the tunnel some actually useful transit from Ballard and West Seattle could go a long ass way to convincing enough people its not needed(while I'm a tunnel fan if I had choose I'd take the light rail).

  • Anc

    Old data and only focus's on a few outliers. Everyone knows Rustbelt cities like Detroit, Louisville, and St. Louis are losing population, although I do have to say Tuscon was a surprise. If you check my first link the most recent data shows that a higher percentage of suburbs increased office vacancy compared to cities, and at a higher rate overall.

  • Anc

    Old data and only focus's on a few outliers. Everyone knows Rustbelt cities like Detroit, Louisville, and St. Louis are losing population, although I do have to say Tuscon was a surprise. If you check my first link the most recent data shows that a higher percentage of suburbs increased office vacancy compared to cities, and at a higher rate overall.

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    It's not that big a deal. I've worked for two different organizations in Seattle, and nobody I know drives in except the executives. For everyone else it's the bus or vanpool. If a 2.5% increase (note that's not a 2.5% tax – just a 2.5% increase in whatever that tax was) in parking taxes can drive someone out of Seattle, they weren't sticking around anyway.

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    It's not that big a deal. I've worked for two different organizations in Seattle, and nobody I know drives in except the executives. For everyone else it's the bus or vanpool. If a 2.5% increase (note that's not a 2.5% tax – just a 2.5% increase in whatever that tax was) in parking taxes can drive someone out of Seattle, they weren't sticking around anyway.

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    ??? How is a 2008 article about sprawl in Louisville and Tucson relevant?

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    ??? How is a 2008 article about sprawl in Louisville and Tucson relevant?

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    I still wonder if the light rail thing from Ballard to West Seattle might be a easier to get done if they made it a street car instead. One long track from Market Street at the Locks, down to 15th, south along the length of the waterfront, to the stadiums, and on to the edge of Alki before turning up for the Junction. Stick a bunch of cars on it and have them just cycle through.

  • http://www.joeszilagyi.com/ Joe Szilagyi

    I still wonder if the light rail thing from Ballard to West Seattle might be a easier to get done if they made it a street car instead. One long track from Market Street at the Locks, down to 15th, south along the length of the waterfront, to the stadiums, and on to the edge of Alki before turning up for the Junction. Stick a bunch of cars on it and have them just cycle through.

  • Mr. X

    Talk to some Ave merchants about how the cost of parking is no big deal for their customers and get back to me on that, m'kay?

  • Mr. X

    Talk to some Ave merchants about how the cost of parking is no big deal for their customers and get back to me on that, m'kay?

  • Anc

    Considering the amount of time and money needed to get light rail 'Right' and the fact that it will be near permanent infrastructure, I would prefer it not be rushed nor done on the cheap.

  • Anc

    Considering the amount of time and money needed to get light rail 'Right' and the fact that it will be near permanent infrastructure, I would prefer it not be rushed nor done on the cheap.

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    Heh. Not a bad point. But a pennies per parking spot increase? There's no way that'll be a significant deterrant to shopping downtown.

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    Heh. Not a bad point. But a pennies per parking spot increase? There's no way that'll be a significant deterrant to shopping downtown.

  • Jonah

    “People in the community, especially the business community, are extremely concerned about increasing taxes, especially taxes that affect businesses.”

    Wow, how profound.

    But let's get this straight here; the business community are the strongest supporters of the tunnel, yet they aren't willing to pay for it? Kind of like a little boy asking for a new bike, but when his parents tell him he would have to pay for it out of his allowance, he responds, “NO! Just charge my poor friends.”

  • Jonah

    “People in the community, especially the business community, are extremely concerned about increasing taxes, especially taxes that affect businesses.”

    Wow, how profound.

    But let's get this straight here; the business community are the strongest supporters of the tunnel, yet they aren't willing to pay for it? Kind of like a little boy asking for a new bike, but when his parents tell him he would have to pay for it out of his allowance, he responds, “NO! Just charge my poor friends.”

  • giffy

    I don't know… its train tracks down existing right of ways. Ballard is a piece of cake. Leave Seattle straight up interurban, which is quite wide and then decide if there should be a seperate bridge for rail or if we take lanes from the existing one. After that is another wide right of way right up to Market where it can either end or curve west and run down that street.

    West Seattle is a bit more tricky thanks to the bridge issue, but the line could very well sidestep that and run by Harbor Island and then up Admiral before running down California.

    Pretty easy construction as there are no tunnels and very little grade separation. Pretty much just have to lay the tracks, build some stations, and buy the trains.

  • giffy

    I don't know… its train tracks down existing right of ways. Ballard is a piece of cake. Leave Seattle straight up interurban, which is quite wide and then decide if there should be a seperate bridge for rail or if we take lanes from the existing one. After that is another wide right of way right up to Market where it can either end or curve west and run down that street.

    West Seattle is a bit more tricky thanks to the bridge issue, but the line could very well sidestep that and run by Harbor Island and then up Admiral before running down California.

    Pretty easy construction as there are no tunnels and very little grade separation. Pretty much just have to lay the tracks, build some stations, and buy the trains.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    Why, again, does he need sidewalk money I voted for to study light rail that wasn't what I voted for?

    I think the other Seattle, north of 130th, should just become part of Shoreline. Redraw the line.
    These rail/trolley/streetcar plans are rarely shown as “someday” going to the other Seattle, and yet, I am paying for that?
    How about a West Seattle – Ballard light rail LID pays for that West Side rail.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    Why, again, does he need sidewalk money I voted for to study light rail that wasn't what I voted for?

    I think the other Seattle, north of 130th, should just become part of Shoreline. Redraw the line.
    These rail/trolley/streetcar plans are rarely shown as “someday” going to the other Seattle, and yet, I am paying for that?
    How about a West Seattle – Ballard light rail LID pays for that West Side rail.

  • N8

    The Local Improvement District is the way to go! I am glad to see that it is part of the plan!

  • N8

    The Local Improvement District is the way to go! I am glad to see that it is part of the plan!

  • NordicGal

    I don't think I've ever voted against a new tax proposal in Seattle. But I am not going to be voting for any increase proposed by Mayor McGinn. I don't trust him. He appears to have a particularly severe case of “can't tell the whole truth.” Among other problems. He's now frequently referred to as “the placeholder.”