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We Need People Who Ride Bikes, Not Cyclists


Photo from seattletransitblog.com

Seattle Transit Blog’s Martin H. Duke posted a short anecdote last weekend about his experiences as a brand-new bike commuter (he started riding two weeks ago). Duke focuses primarily on how he, a regular transit rider, started biking to make one leg of his commute faster and easier. The importance of multi-modal commuting cannot be understated, particularly in Seattle where hills are often a legitimate barrier to bicycling. But it was Duke’s second point that really stuck out.

He wrote:

It’s important to note what a casual rider like me is willing to do. I have no interest in buying hundreds of dollars of equipment (I spent less than $150 on bike, helmet, and lock combined; thanks, Bikeworks). I had no interest in having to change or shower at the end of the ride, since that would annihilate the time savings; that ruled out buying an outfit or crossing the lake.

Duke is a person who rides a bike, not a cyclist. Though there’s always the chance that he’ll fall in love with cycling and its many subcultures (I never could have predicated my future obsession with all things cycling when I first bought a used bike in college), it’s just as likely that he will continue to see bikes as a tool and not an identity. That’s exactly what we need.

If bicycling is going to become a viable mode of transportation, bicycles need to be seen as a means of conveyance, not an entry point to a lifestyle that requires specialized clothing, new lingo, or dedication to a particular political ideology. Fair or not, that image compounds some people’s reluctance to start riding.

Driving, walking, and transit riding aren’t cultural identifiers like bicycling. I doubt there are many people who, asked to describe themselves, would respond “driver.” Bicycling needs to be the same way if it’s going to be embraced by a broad audience.

There are a number of reasons cycling is seen as an identity, not a mode. With a very small share of the transportation system (just 0.5 percent of trips nationally and 2.9 percent of trips in Seattle), bicycling is always going to be seen as more “fringe” than ubiquitous modes like driving and transit. As bicycling becomes more commonplace, it will lose some of that baggage, but that’s years if not decades away.

But there are a few things we can do in meantime:

Support bicycling publications that focus on bicycling as transportation, such as Momentum Magazine and Urban Velo. Both magazines are young (and underfunded), so the quality leaves a little to be desired. But the majority of cycling magazines are dedicated to racing and the latest, greatest equipment—perpetuating the false notion that you need a race bike, cycling shoes, and a full-spandex kit every time you ride.

Continue building pragmatic bicycle infrastructure, particularly on arterial routes and routes that connect neighborhoods to transit. The more people who ride, the safer and more acceptable bicycling becomes. In order for that to happen, bicycling (or bicycling combined with transit) needs to be the easiest mode for short trips. Those Dutch commuters in the video we posted Friday aren’t riding for altruistic reasons. They’re riding because it’s easy and practical.

As STB’s Adam Parast showed with his bikeability study, Seattle has islands of good bikeability (typically around urban centers) that need to be connected. For fitter bike riders, these islands can be connected by infrastructure on the most direct routes, which are also typically the flattest. Road diets seem to work wonders on arterials. For less-fit riders, we need good infrastructure connecting those bikeable islands to transit. Everyone who can ride a bike can ride two miles to the bus or train station. Infrastructure will insure that that’s the safe, easy, practical thing to do.

None of this is to say that cycling culture is bad. I love the culture, gear, racing, and history of the bicycle. But those things aren’t going to attract the Martin Dukes of the world. The bicycle as a pragmatic transportation tool will.




  • morning

    Martin Duke has commute
    across the lake
    that's a hoot.

    Shop locally, work locally , vacation locally.

    Long commutes are anti-environment.

  • morning

    Martin Duke has commute
    across the lake
    that's a hoot.

    Shop locally, work locally , vacation locally.

    Long commutes are anti-environment.

  • Edog

    “…The bicycle as a pragmatic transportation tool…” I think its funny this point has to be made, and it shows how far off course the current discussion is. Whenever I read about the bike in most online policy discussions around Seattle, it always comes off as some moral imperative deeply imbedded in the psyche of the “cyclist” which gives cycling a sort of NRA feel to it, and turns those with open minds away from good policy. By way of example, most of the proposed changes to Nickerson are about pedestrian safety, but the dialogue always shifts to the sharrows and cyclist safety. While those mods are part of the program, they don't lie as the core reason for that particular change.

  • Edog

    “…The bicycle as a pragmatic transportation tool…” I think its funny this point has to be made, and it shows how far off course the current discussion is. Whenever I read about the bike in most online policy discussions around Seattle, it always comes off as some moral imperative deeply imbedded in the psyche of the “cyclist” which gives cycling a sort of NRA feel to it, and turns those with open minds away from good policy. By way of example, most of the proposed changes to Nickerson are about pedestrian safety, but the dialogue always shifts to the sharrows and cyclist safety. While those mods are part of the program, they don't lie as the core reason for that particular change.

  • Owns a bicycle

    Thanks Josh for pointing out this extremely important distinction! You've nailed it. Suits and heels riding to work, seniors with grandkids, along with the spandex crowd. Hurray!

  • Owns a bicycle

    Thanks Josh for pointing out this extremely important distinction! You've nailed it. Suits and heels riding to work, seniors with grandkids, along with the spandex crowd. Hurray!

  • Gomez

    Excellent points, Josh. This is probably your best post since you joined Publicola.

  • Gomez

    Excellent points, Josh. This is probably your best post since you joined Publicola.

  • biliruben

    Indeed.

    I think the inevitable tension between Joe-driver and Jane-peddler that is created by both long-term funding and land-use infrastructure conflicts, as well as short-term “Get the fuck out of my way!” conflicts will be eased as more Joe-drivers see it as possible, and actually pleasant and logical to try out how the 2-wheeled live now and again.

    We need to do everything we can to make it as inviting and inclusive as possible.

    I've pretty much been a peddling because it makes sense kind of guy all my life. Sure I very occasionally go out for a long ride, but generally, I simply have a destination, and biking seems like a really good way to get there!

  • biliruben

    Indeed.

    I think the inevitable tension between Joe-driver and Jane-peddler that is created by both long-term funding and land-use infrastructure conflicts, as well as short-term “Get the fuck out of my way!” conflicts will be eased as more Joe-drivers see it as possible, and actually pleasant and logical, to try out 2-wheels now and again.

    We need to do everything we can to make it as inviting and inclusive as possible to every kind of rider and potential rider.

    I've pretty much been a “peddling because it makes sense” kind of guy all my life. Sure I very occasionally go out for a long ride, but generally, I simply have a destination, and biking seems like a really good way to get there!

  • casual rider

    thanks for a great post. Important distinction here! I consider myself an enviro and for many years walked to work. I recently switched jobs and now drive to work (7 minute drive vs. 5 minute walk, 10 minute bus ride, wait, transfer, 20 minute bus ride, 5 minute walk). I bike for fun on weekends (mostly on the burke) and have a decent bike. I'd love to bike commute as the weather improves but I'm intimidated by a capitol hill to Fremont commute (those hills!, safety etc). Not having a shower at my office definitely makes it challenging. I also don't have lots of $$ to spend on bike gear. So yes, I bike but I'm not a cyclist.

    I wish that the resources in town that talk about bike commuting were less focused on that intense bike culture so that I could feel like there was a place for me to start….maybe there is something out there and I just don't know about it. As of now I feel like biking isn't really a safe, simple option for me, and I wish that wasn't the case!

  • casual rider

    thanks for a great post. Important distinction here! I consider myself an enviro and for many years walked to work. I recently switched jobs and now drive to work (7 minute drive vs. 5 minute walk, 10 minute bus ride, wait, transfer, 20 minute bus ride, 5 minute walk). I bike for fun on weekends (mostly on the burke) and have a decent bike. I'd love to bike commute as the weather improves but I'm intimidated by a capitol hill to Fremont commute (those hills!, safety etc). Not having a shower at my office definitely makes it challenging. I also don't have lots of $$ to spend on bike gear. So yes, I bike but I'm not a cyclist.

    I wish that the resources in town that talk about bike commuting were less focused on that intense bike culture so that I could feel like there was a place for me to start….maybe there is something out there and I just don't know about it. As of now I feel like biking isn't really a safe, simple option for me, and I wish that wasn't the case!

  • Ebike Rider

    Right on.

    I'm on a bike because I'm lucky to have great right-of-way across I-90 and Mercer Island, and the road up to downtown Bellevue isn't too terrible either. The drive (in an automobile) works okay, but the traffic really gets me stressed, occasionally is terrible, and I'm far better off on the trail. Particularly on Mariner game days.

    I'm on an electric assist bike because my mission is to get to and from work. That's it. I tried a nice (un-assisted) road bike for a while, but found myself flagging on the needed commitment of energy and time. I simply had a hard time summoning the will more than once or twice a week.

    I like a moderate amount of exercise, but not to the level that my trip in either direction includes along 9 miles and 700 feet of climbing. The assisted bike allows me to accomplish my mission (go to freaking work) with a far more palatable level of energy and time commitment. In the reasonably good weather we've had for bike to work month, I've been able to maintain over 85% bike vs. car (fought a cold for a couple of days and drove).

    This to me represents a great transportation and environmental win over a regular automobile commute (no I will not move to Bellevue for my job). I hope others are able to find solutions like mine, a comfortable level of compromise towards less intense resource usage.

  • Ebike Rider

    Right on.

    I'm on a bike because I'm lucky to have great right-of-way across I-90 and Mercer Island, and the road up to downtown Bellevue isn't too terrible either. The drive (in an automobile) works okay, but the traffic really gets me stressed, occasionally is terrible, and I'm far better off on the trail. Particularly on Mariner game days.

    I'm on an electric assist bike because my mission is to get to and from work. That's it. I tried a nice (un-assisted) road bike for a while, but found myself flagging on the needed commitment of energy and time. I simply had a hard time summoning the will more than once or twice a week.

    I like a moderate amount of exercise, but not to the level that my trip in either direction includes along 9 miles and 700 feet of climbing. The assisted bike allows me to accomplish my mission (go to freaking work) with a far more palatable level of energy and time commitment. In the reasonably good weather we've had for bike to work month, I've been able to maintain over 85% bike vs. car (fought a cold for a couple of days and drove).

    This to me represents a great transportation and environmental win over a regular automobile commute (no I will not move to Bellevue for my job). I hope others are able to find solutions like mine, a comfortable level of compromise towards less intense resource usage.

  • http://velocouture.org Patrick Barber

    Well said, Josh. People who ride bikes (this one, anyway) salute you. Cheers

    Patrick

  • http://velocouture.org Patrick Barber

    Well said, Josh. People who ride bikes (this one, anyway) salute you. Cheers

    Patrick

  • N8

    I too really like this post.

    The struggle that I have is this: I live exactly 3 miles from my work, which is 3 blocks from a major transit center. I have considered biking to work (mainly downhill) and riding the bus home, but it's tough to switch from a 10 minute drive that involves only 7 lights (all but three are mostly green) to riding a bike. I think that I would be a good candidate for switching, but it's tough to want to make such a lifestyle change–in the summer anyway, cause there is no way I'm doing it when it's cold out or raining.

  • N8

    I too really like this post.

    The struggle that I have is this: I live exactly 3 miles from my work, which is 3 blocks from a major transit center. I have considered biking to work (mainly downhill) and riding the bus home, but it's tough to switch from a 10 minute drive that involves only 7 lights (all but three are mostly green) to riding a bike. I think that I would be a good candidate for switching, but it's tough to want to make such a lifestyle change–in the summer anyway, cause there is no way I'm doing it when it's cold out or raining.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    I praised that post several times in my comments on STB. However, as usual, Democola wants to warp it to its own political big-budget message.

    You write:

    “Continue building pragmatic bicycle infrastructure, particularly on arterial routes and routes that connect neighborhoods to transit.”

    No.

    That's not what is being said.

    It's not “infrastructure” as in lets ad some bike lanes to your 6 billion dollar fiascoes.

    It's about seeing bicycles for what they can do in an of themselves.

    It could be about providing some route signs that take people nowhere near an “arterial”.

    What is it about “cyclist” mentality that favors riding alongside 4 lanes of traffic speeding at 50 mph…rather than a meadering bike route at a slow pace in and out of neighborhods.

    Bikes can go down alleys, can cut through grass (if they're a Cross-Hybrid Trek 7000 like mine…heh, heh) they can do all sorts of maneuvers that are delicate, gentle….why is it that “cyclists” want to make bikes into something between a motorcycle and a Peterbuilt!?

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    I praised that post several times in my comments on STB. However, as usual, Democola wants to warp it to its own political big-budget message.

    You write:

    “Continue building pragmatic bicycle infrastructure, particularly on arterial routes and routes that connect neighborhoods to transit.”

    No.

    That's not what is being said.

    It's not “infrastructure” as in lets ad some bike lanes to your 6 billion dollar fiascoes.

    It's about seeing bicycles for what they can do in an of themselves.
    It's the good old bicycle basket for kids to go to Top Foods and bring back the groceries for Dad to cook. It could be about providing some route signs that take people nowhere near an “arterial”.

    What is it about “cyclist” mentality that favors riding alongside 4 lanes of traffic speeding at 50 mph…rather than a meadering bike route at a slow pace in and out of neighborhods.

    Bikes can go down alleys, can cut through grass (if they're a Cross-Hybrid Trek 7000 like mine…heh, heh) they can do all sorts of maneuvers that are delicate, gentle….why is it that “cyclists” want to make bikes into something between a motorcycle and a Peterbuilt!?

  • Not in the Bike Mafia

    This title resonates!

  • Not in the Bike Mafia

    This title resonates!

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    I have a tip for you. Since work is downhill, consider biking to work in work clothes, then changing into sweat-worthy clothes for the ride home. I do this and it's great exercise once a day*, plus I have a shower at home. My work is 3 miles from my home and I find it takes me about 10 minutes to bike to work (vs. a 10 minute drive plus 10 minute $10 parking or 30 minute bus ride), and around 20 minutes to get home. This 20 minutes is “free” for me, since I would have done a 20 minute workout anyway**.

    * admittedly once a day when the weather is nice and I feel like biking
    ** admittedly only if I had felt like working out, which happens about as often as I feel like biking

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    I have a tip for you. Since work is downhill, consider biking to work in work clothes, then changing into sweat-worthy clothes for the ride home. I do this and it's great exercise once a day*, plus I have a shower at home. My work is 3 miles from my home and I find it takes me about 10 minutes to bike to work (vs. a 10 minute drive plus 10 minute $10 parking or 30 minute bus ride), and around 30 minutes to get home. This 30 minutes is “free” for me, since I would have done a 30 minute workout anyway**.

    * admittedly once a day when the weather is nice and I feel like biking
    ** admittedly only if I had felt like working out, which happens about as often as I feel like biking

  • sfesler

    In fairness, he is taking public transport instead of driving. That's better than driving the same distance solo. I can't speak for him as to why he lives across the lake, but if I had a technical skill and a company suited me that I liked a good distance away say on the Eastside, but I also really liked the Seattle neighbourhoods, I'd probably take a place in Seattle and the job across the lake. I bet he'd ideally like to have the same job in Seattle. But like I said, don't know him personally so I can't say that's the case exactly.

  • sfesler

    In fairness, he is taking public transport instead of driving. That's better than driving the same distance solo. I can't speak for him as to why he lives across the lake, but if I had a technical skill and a company suited me that I liked a good distance away say on the Eastside, but I also really liked the Seattle neighbourhoods, I'd probably take a place in Seattle and the job across the lake. I bet he'd ideally like to have the same job in Seattle. But like I said, don't know him personally so I can't say that's the case exactly.

  • Anc

    Bike shops could also do more to service 'people who ride bikes.' I looked at buying my first bike…EVER (Santa brought all my other ones) the other day and was completely freaked out. Walked in the door and the first thing greeting me was a sales rack with bikes for 'ONLY $3999' and 'SALE $2499' and then when a salesman walked up he tried to put me into a $500 when all I was going to be doing was casual riding on flat terrain. Which considering I had made it clear I was going to be buying one for my wife as well was WAYYY too much money and bike. And then he started trying to tell me about all the gear I needed.

    Maybe some people go straight to being cyclists, but I would imagine most start off as just people who ride bikes. t would think that trying to cater to them, to just get them on a bike first AND THEN try to turn those people into cyclists would be a better business plan.

  • Anc

    Bike shops could also do more to service 'people who ride bikes.' I looked at buying my first bike…EVER (Santa brought all my other ones) the other day and was completely freaked out. Walked in the door and the first thing greeting me was a sales rack with bikes for 'ONLY $3999' and 'SALE $2499' and then when a salesman walked up he tried to put me into a $500 when all I was going to be doing was casual riding on flat terrain. Which considering I had made it clear I was going to be buying one for my wife as well was WAYYY too much money and bike. And then he started trying to tell me about all the gear I needed.

    Maybe some people go straight to being cyclists, but I would imagine most start off as just people who ride bikes. t would think that trying to cater to them, to just get them on a bike first AND THEN try to turn those people into cyclists would be a better business plan.

  • MudBaby

    The refreshing and sensible point of view in this article is a welcome contrast from ideas express in a Seattle PI blog posted here…

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/innorthseattle/archiv…

    … entitled “Biking To Work Is Stupid.”

  • MudBaby

    The refreshing and sensible point of view in this article is a welcome contrast from ideas express in a Seattle PI blog posted here…

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/innorthseattle/archiv…

    … entitled “Biking To Work Is Stupid.”

  • sarah68

    Duke is quoted as mentioning something that I haven't read before in the many paeans to biking to work: he has no desire to have to change clothes when he gets to work.

    The real problem in getting more people to bike to work is that many–probably most–CAN'T change clothes when they get to work. That demands a place to change, and usually a shower, and a locker. Those come with workplaces that have a biking/running culture and employees who have the time and the workplace respect to be allowed to do that. It doesn't come with service-industry workplaces, and that's where the majority of workers are.

  • sarah68

    Duke is quoted as mentioning something that I haven't read before in the many paeans to biking to work: he has no desire to have to change clothes when he gets to work.

    The real problem in getting more people to bike to work is that many–probably most–CAN'T change clothes when they get to work. That demands a place to change, and usually a shower, and a locker. Those come with workplaces that have a biking/running culture and employees who have the time and the workplace respect to be allowed to do that. It doesn't come with service-industry workplaces, and that's where the majority of workers are.

  • About time

    NSDT to this post…it's taking you guys this long to figure out the bike riders in amsterhagen don't wear spandex and don't go on 200 miles bike rides for fun? If they did they'd be in Paris, dude.

    The commenter's point about arterials is spot on. please focus bike riding on NON arterials, there are tons of perfectly good side streets that go for 1 to 3 miles a block away from arterials, it's a natural to suggest bikes concentrate on those routes instead of on the artierials. Examples are the streets one block or two blocks west of Eastlake instead of riding on busy Eastlake; the Woodland avenue broad quiet st. instead of stone way (good conector to Woodland park and greenlake); the street a block off 35th; and taking Latona all the way from about 65th down to the university bridge.

    and yes you have to create though routes for bikers.

    Get a map of Seattle. Make four monster bike routes from ne nw se sw seattle — from the extreme boundaries of seattle…to downtown. Where they go on bridges we need to spend the bucks for a safe separated wide bike lane; otherwise put the routes on NON arterials.

  • About time

    NSDT to this post…it's taking you guys this long to figure out the bike riders in amsterhagen don't wear spandex and don't go on 200 miles bike rides for fun? If they did they'd be in Paris, dude.

    The commenter's point about arterials is spot on. please focus bike riding on NON arterials, there are tons of perfectly good side streets that go for 1 to 3 miles a block away from arterials, it's a natural to suggest bikes concentrate on those routes instead of on the artierials. Examples are the streets one block or two blocks west of Eastlake instead of riding on busy Eastlake; the Woodland avenue broad quiet st. instead of stone way (good conector to Woodland park and greenlake); the street a block off 35th; and taking Latona all the way from about 65th down to the university bridge.

    and yes you have to create though routes for bikers.

    Get a map of Seattle. Make four monster bike routes from ne nw se sw seattle — from the extreme boundaries of seattle…to downtown. Where they go on bridges we need to spend the bucks for a safe separated wide bike lane; otherwise put the routes on NON arterials.

  • Chris Stefan

    Boy, the blog post and some of the comments are seriously over the top.

    Though I can only imagine how much worse it would have been had it been on the suburban times rather than the PI.

  • Chris Stefan

    Boy, the blog post and some of the comments are seriously over the top.

    Though I can only imagine how much worse it would have been had it been on the suburban times rather than the PI.

  • Chris Stefan

    Boy, the blog post and some of the comments are seriously over the top.

    Though I can only imagine how much worse it would have been had it been on the suburban times rather than the PI.

  • Middle-aged Biker

    Ride on! I thought my cyclist friend was going to faint when I said we could also put our bikes on the Water Taxi and get back to W. Seattle that way.

    I am car-free and use a bike along with transit to get around the city.

  • Middle-aged Biker

    Ride on! I thought my cyclist friend was going to faint when I said we could also put our bikes on the Water Taxi and get back to W. Seattle that way.

    I am car-free and use a bike along with transit to get around the city.

  • http://www.orphanroad.com Frank

    “the Dutch bicycle network is designed for a 60-year old woman with two bags of groceries”

    http://www.humantransit.org/2010/04/can-we-all-…

  • http://www.orphanroad.com Frank

    “the Dutch bicycle network is designed for a 60-year old woman with two bags of groceries”

    http://www.humantransit.org/2010/04/can-we-all-…

  • misha

    Why can't you be more like this commenter on the transit blog, who would bike to work if only there was better bike path and bike locker infrastructure?

    “I would “bike to work” if there weren’t a 500 ft incline hill to deal with on a road with no bike path and hellacious traffic, that would take me to a train, which then brings me within a few feet of my workplace (so why put my bike on the train?)”

  • misha

    Why can't you be more like this commenter on the transit blog, who would bike to work if only there was better bike path and bike locker infrastructure?

    “I would “bike to work” if there weren’t a 500 ft incline hill to deal with on a road with no bike path and hellacious traffic, that would take me to a train, which then brings me within a few feet of my workplace (so why put my bike on the train?)”

  • biliruben

    If you build it, they will come.

    If you make a safe merge from Woodland through the bridge nightmare down to the Burke, I would take it.

    If you actually put pavement on Fairview below Eastlake, make a decent connection through Mallard Cove, striped it for bikes (now cars love to play chicken with you, and feel they have the right of way), I would take it.

    If you get the city to put stop signs so roads paralleling arterials like 35th are safe to take (I have no idea which one you are talking about here), I would take it.

    Build bike infrastructure in places that aren't taking you up hills and are direct, and bikes will come.

    Right now the arterials are generally the flattest, most direct and safest routes, so that's where the bikes are.

  • biliruben

    If you build it, they will come.

    If you make a safe merge from Woodland through the bridge nightmare down to the Burke, I would take it.

    If you actually put pavement on Fairview below Eastlake, make a decent connection through Mallard Cove, striped it for bikes (now cars love to play chicken with you, and feel they have the right of way), I would take it.

    If you get the city to put stop signs so roads paralleling arterials like 35th are safe to take (I have no idea which one you are talking about here), I would take it.

    Build bike infrastructure in places that aren't taking you up hills and are direct, and bikes will come.

    Right now the arterials are generally the flattest, most direct and safest routes, so that's where the bikes are.

    These are not expensive fixes. They will piss off a few local residents and businesses, and this is something our city has been historically unwilling to do. Elect officials with spine, and sensible approaches will be enacted, even over the NIMBY howls.

  • giffy

    Nicely said. I think bikes can be an excellent commute choice for a lot of people ,but find many elements of “bike culture” like massholes extremely off-putting and they make me not want to support anything to do with bikes. Its good to remember that most people who bike are not self-entitled asses.

  • giffy

    Nicely said. I think bikes can be an excellent commute choice for a lot of people ,but find many elements of “bike culture” like massholes extremely off-putting and they make me not want to support anything to do with bikes. Its good to remember that most people who bike are not self-entitled asses.

  • mother_night

    I would *love* to see sidewalks on Nickerson. What's up with the no sidewalks–in the city?

  • mother_night

    I would *love* to see sidewalks on Nickerson. What's up with the no sidewalks–in the city?

  • melinda

    I like being both kinds of people. I am not going to put on special shoes and underpants to go to work or the grocery store, but I like doing long rides sometimes.

  • melinda

    I like being both kinds of people. I am not going to put on special shoes and underpants to go to work or the grocery store, but I like doing long rides sometimes.

  • kurisu

    If all the retail destinations, schools, employers etc. were on non-arterial streets that might work.

  • kurisu

    If all the retail destinations, schools, employers etc. were on non-arterial streets that might work.

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    Totally agree. I generally send people to Performance Bikes. Yeah, they're cheap Chinese knockoffs of real bikes, but they start in the sub-$200 range new. And I've even been very happy with my higher-performance road bike I bought there. (used via Craig's List can be better, but you have to know something about bikes)

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    Totally agree. I generally send people to Performance Bikes. Yeah, they're cheap Chinese knockoffs of real bikes, but they start in the sub-$200 range new. And I've even been very happy with my higher-performance road bike I bought there. (used via Craig's List can be better, but you have to know something about bikes)

  • datajunkie

    I hate the title of this article and judging by the comments I might be the only one. We humans seem to love adding connotations to words that somehow become part of the definition. Liberal becomes a dirty word, so people say they are progressive. People realize there's a lot of disgust with religion, so they tell me they are spiritual not religious. Now the word cyclist means something more than a person on a bicycle? bNo, these words still have the same meaning. Stop this war on words and use words as they are intended.

  • datajunkie

    I hate the title of this article and judging by the comments I might be the only one. We humans seem to love adding connotations to words that somehow become part of the definition. Liberal becomes a dirty word, so people say they are progressive. People realize there's a lot of disgust with religion, so they tell me they are spiritual not religious. Now the word cyclist means something more than a person on a bicycle? No, these words still have the same meaning.

  • N8

    Thanks for the idea! I'll give that a try one day a week this summer and see how it goes.

  • N8

    Thanks for the idea! I'll give that a try one day a week this summer and see how it goes.

  • http://nottheeternaltao.blogspot.com/ jimstoic

    I don't see people who don't want to spend more than $150 on bike gear spending an additional 15% on a magazine subscription.

  • http://nottheeternaltao.blogspot.com/ jimstoic

    I don't see people who don't want to spend more than $150 on bike gear spending an additional 15% on a magazine subscription.

  • Anc

    The title doesn't represent a war on words, it is an example of what makes English such a great language. Our extensive vocabulary and loose structure allows us to communicate the same basic idea, but with many slightly different connotations. Putting the person first emphasizes the person aspect with the identifier being of less importance, whereas putting the identifier first emphasizes that aspect. For example in my line of work there is a saying “There are two types of people you run into, Army guys and guys that are just in the Army.' Both describe the same basic idea, a person serving in the Army, but they each invoke very different images. To tie it in closer to the title in question, I would also say that 'Guy in the Army' and 'Soldier' calls up the same difference.

    This versatility in our language is something to be celebrated, not scorned.

  • Anc

    The title doesn't represent a war on words, it is an example of what makes English such a great language. Our extensive vocabulary and loose structure allows us to communicate the same basic idea, but with many slightly different connotations. Putting the person first emphasizes the person aspect with the identifier being of less importance, whereas putting the identifier first emphasizes that aspect. For example in my line of work there is a saying “There are two types of people you run into, Army guys and guys that just in the Army.' Both describe the same basic idea, a person serving in the Army, but they each invoke very different images. To tie it in closer to the title in question, I would also say that 'Guy in the Army' and 'Soldier' calls up the same difference.

    This versatility in our language is something to be celebrated, not scorned.

  • morning

    Nice comment.

    Maybe it's better. It would be even better if he car-pooled with two others. Or if he lived where he worked. It sounds like he's been doing this for quite some time. There is always a rationalization why it's okay for an environmentalist to travel 15 miles to work, but long commutes are a big part of the problem. If so many people didn't cross the lake, we wouldn't need to build a super highway through a very special park.

    Duke most likely makes a good income, yet we are subsidizing his commute to the tune of $10 per day or more. Bertolet wrote about all the housing in the suburbs that is available. If people like Duke won't live on the Eastside, it will never be a place that people like Duke will live and we'll just have to build more bridges.

  • morning

    Nice comment.

    Maybe it's better. It would be even better if he car-pooled with two others. Or if he lived where he worked. It sounds like he's been doing this for quite some time. There is always a rationalization why it's okay for an environmentalist to travel 15 miles to work, but long commutes are a big part of the problem. If so many people didn't cross the lake, we wouldn't need to build a super highway through a very special park.

    Duke most likely makes a good income, yet we are subsidizing his commute to the tune of $10 per day or more. Bertolet wrote about all the housing in the suburbs that is available. If people like Duke won't live on the Eastside, it will never be a place that people like Duke will live and we'll just have to build more bridges.

  • N8

    “Biking To Work Is Stupid” sounds like a title a blogger that is trying to egg on the crazies from both sides to comment on the article.

  • N8

    “Biking To Work Is Stupid” sounds like a title a blogger that is trying to egg on the crazies from both sides to comment on the article.

  • N8

    Yeah, like the cyclists that commented on the pedestrians death on the burke gilman trail. Couldn't find the link to the story, but the comments were pretty crazy.

  • N8

    Yeah, like the cyclists that commented on the pedestrians death on the burke gilman trail. Couldn't find the link to the story, but the comments were pretty crazy.

  • N8

    And 'Junkie' used to mean a drug user, now someone can through 'data' on the front of it and label themselves that way. It's a crazy world that we live in.

  • N8

    And 'Junkie' used to mean a drug user, now someone can through 'data' on the front of it and label themselves that way. It's a crazy world that we live in.

  • sfesler

    Look, I'm not saying long distance commutes are great. I fully understand that as a progressive planner. And, you're right, if most people don't live where they work, those places are likely to continue to unattractive places to locate.

    My personal view point is that public transport, biking, and walking extends that boundary of acceptable travel distance. I also feel that Martin's attempt is better than the thousands of others out there who aren't making more positive commute choices. So, basically, I'm not willing to throw stones at him.

    But in principle, I agree that we should live, work, and play close to where they live. Living where I do right now, all I ever do is walk, with the very odd chance of catching a lift or taking the bus. When I'm back in Covington, I'm one of the worst offenders and I personally don't feel good about it, although I do try to keep my trips to a minimum.

    My basic message is: don't be throwing stones because I think a lot of people out there are trying to do the right thing.

  • sfesler

    Look, I'm not saying long distance commutes are great. I fully understand that as a progressive planner. And, you're right, if most people don't live where they work, those places are likely to continue to unattractive places to locate.

    My personal view point is that public transport, biking, and walking extends that boundary of acceptable travel distance. I also feel that Martin's attempt is better than the thousands of others out there who aren't making more positive commute choices. So, basically, I'm not willing to throw stones at him.

    But in principle, I agree that we should live, work, and play close to where they live. Living where I do right now, all I ever do is walk, with the very odd chance of catching a lift or taking the bus. When I'm back in Covington, I'm one of the worst offenders and I personally don't feel good about it, although I do try to keep my trips to a minimum.

    My basic message is: don't be throwing stones because I think a lot of people out there are trying to do the right thing.

  • datajunkie

    Valid points and I agree with your analysis, but the reason people stopped referring to themselves as liberal or religious isn't because the frame of reference but the negative connotations people started associating with the words. It really bothers me that people would switch to using the word progressive (especially when they are not actually progressive at all) for the same meaning as liberal. I wouldn't like the same thing to happen to the word cyclist and judging the the way people have responded in comments, it would seem to have already happened. There's hate toward cyclists by some and I fear this reaction to remove one's self from the word cyclist is in response to that. In my opinion, using the word cyclist in the context the article does can unintentionally promote the association of the word cyclist with the mental image of someone despisable or as someone you do not want to be. My first comment was overly divisive in its wording which I apologize for.

  • datajunkie

    Valid points and I agree with your analysis, but the reason people stopped referring to themselves as liberal or religious isn't because the frame of reference but the negative connotations people started associating with the words. It really bothers me that people would switch to using the word progressive (especially when they are not actually progressive at all) for the same meaning as liberal. I wouldn't like the same thing to happen to the word cyclist and judging the the way people have responded in comments, it would seem to have already happened. There's hate toward cyclists by some and I fear this reaction to remove one's self from the word cyclist is in response to that. In my opinion, using the word cyclist in the context the article does can unintentionally promote the association of the word cyclist with the mental image of someone despisable or as someone you do not want to be. My first comment was overly divisive in its wording which I apologize for.

  • Anc

    I can see where I am coming from, but I don't think Josh is adding any negative connotations to the term. If some commentators see those that define themselves by their preferred mode of transport (cyclists) then maybe those people that choose to define themselves that way need to do some better PR work?

  • Anc

    I can see where I am coming from, but I don't think Josh is adding any negative connotations to the term. If some commentators see those that define themselves by their preferred mode of transport (cyclists) then maybe those people that choose to define themselves that way need to do some better PR work?

  • aff

    “long commutes are anti environment”

    people are complicated–long commutes may be pro family, e.g. i have a job that allows me to provide for my family and it makes me feel good to provide for them;

    what a lame, narrow-minded approach. yes, we want to do things to encourage people to have short commutes, and smart planning should be a part of that. but shaming individuals, you don't even know, for their commute choices is offensive and off-putting.

  • aff

    “long commutes are anti environment”

    people are complicated–long commutes may be pro family, e.g. i have a job that allows me to provide for my family and it makes me feel good to provide for them;

    what a lame, narrow-minded approach. yes, we want to do things to encourage people to have short commutes, and smart planning should be a part of that. but shaming individuals, you don't even know, for their commute choices is offensive and off-putting.

  • Barleywine

    There is a bond between the anti-bike crowd, anti-density crowd, and the PI that would make me sound like a tinfoil junky.

    Hope the show is still on for Wednesday in June (next week!). Should be rich indeed. I'll leave final instructions for loved ones.

  • Barleywine

    There is a bond between the anti-bike crowd, anti-density crowd, and the PI that would make me sound like a tinfoil junky.

    Hope the show is still on for Wednesday in June (next week!). Should be rich indeed. I'll leave final instructions for loved ones.

  • Barleywine

    There's a big jump from being a couch potato who owns a bike to being a cyclist. I'd suggest, for me, weekend rides along the rivers farther south.

    Once hooked…commuting, maybe.

  • Barleywine

    There's a big jump from being a couch potato who owns a bike to being a cyclist. I'd suggest, for me, weekend rides along the rivers farther south.

    Once hooked…commuting, maybe.

  • Gomez

    Um, I'm not sure you and the author are discussing the same topics. Whether or not it sucks to label people, there is a very defined subset of the population that sees their bicycle usage as an identity and cause. It helps with this discussion of a very real issue to identity that subset. Whether you call them 'cyclists' or 'bicycle honks' or 'crazy bicycle people' or whatever is up to you, but I'm not exactly sure what your bile has to do with Josh's point. Are you mad at him for calling out a subset that makes bicycling out to be someone more than it ought to? Is this semantic issue you're boiling up a way to sidestep the fact that you're a serious cyclist who took that a bit personally? Maybe not, but either way you're missing the point.

  • Gomez

    Um, I'm not sure you and the author are discussing the same topics. Whether or not it sucks to label people, there is a very defined subset of the population that sees their bicycle usage as an identity and cause. It helps with this discussion of a very real issue to identity that subset. Whether you call them 'cyclists' or 'bicycle honks' or 'crazy bicycle people' or whatever is up to you, but I'm not exactly sure what your bile has to do with Josh's point. Are you mad at him for calling out a subset that makes bicycling out to be someone more than it ought to? Is this semantic issue you're boiling up a way to sidestep the fact that you're a serious cyclist who took that a bit personally? Maybe not, but either way you're missing the point.

  • anonymouse

    How would carpooling with two other people be better than buspooling with 60 other people?

    And I'm not sure where you get your subsidy amount, but you can be sure that every car driver is also being subsidized on their commute. And I'd rather subsidize modes of transport that pollute far less and kill far fewer people than cars.

  • anonymouse

    How would carpooling with two other people be better than buspooling with 60 other people?

    And I'm not sure where you get your subsidy amount, but you can be sure that every car driver is also being subsidized on their commute. And I'd rather subsidize modes of transport that pollute far less and kill far fewer people than cars.

  • http://www.zverina.com robZ

    Thanks for the post. In a similar vein:
    http://zverina.com/2009/0923.htm

  • http://www.zverina.com robZ

    Thanks for the post. In a similar vein:
    http://zverina.com/2009/0923.htm

  • dildork

    People riding bikes ought to be the goal…. being into cycling as a hobby isn't that important I know plenty of 'cyclists' who drive alone in cars hundreds or thousands of miles a month to attend races and what not and still commute in their cars daily…. people riding bikes is where it is at… look at Japan, Chin and most of Northern Europe. People of all ages ride bikes like we drive cars (of course they don't have Seattle hills to deal with).

  • dildork

    People riding bikes ought to be the goal…. being into cycling as a hobby isn't that important I know plenty of 'cyclists' who drive alone in cars hundreds or thousands of miles a month to attend races and what not and still commute in their cars daily…. people riding bikes is where it is at… look at Japan, Chin and most of Northern Europe. People of all ages ride bikes like we drive cars (of course they don't have Seattle hills to deal with).

  • CS

    Very well put, Gomez. In a similar vein, what I wouldn't give to have someone as articulate, diplomatic, and well-versed in issues and policy write a post called “We need people who enjoy cooking and eating food, not foodies.” Terms like these that don't describe or refer to a specific action or set of actions don't *mean* anything. Thus do liberals or progressives or whatever we're supposed to be calling ourselves live up to our reputation for using lofty, smug, self-referential and exclusionist language rather than speaking in real, concrete terms. (Yes, the English language is versatile, but it is also rather ivory towerish to elide the fact that how that language is heard and perceived by others is very important.) In political outreach terms, Josh's post is exactly the way blue-staters and Dem-voters need to be talking. More like this, Publicola. Seriously, exactly like this.

  • CS

    Very well put, Gomez. In a similar vein, what I wouldn't give to have someone as articulate, diplomatic, and well-versed in issues and policy write a post called “We need people who enjoy cooking and eating food, not foodies.” Terms like these that don't describe or refer to a specific action or set of actions don't *mean* anything. Thus do liberals or progressives or whatever we're supposed to be calling ourselves live up to our reputation for using lofty, smug, self-referential and exclusionist language rather than speaking in real, concrete terms. (Yes, the English language is versatile, but it is also rather ivory towerish to elide the fact that how that language is heard and perceived by others is very important.) In political outreach terms, Josh's post is exactly the way blue-staters and Dem-voters need to be talking. More like this, Publicola. Seriously, exactly like this.

  • Tym

    i like your article. while I'm a “cyclist” thru and thru (i've been a bike courier for 6 years, and racing that long as well), I agree that seeing the bicycle as a means of conveyance and not a lifestyle is important for re-introducing bicycles as a viable mode of transit.
    New commuters who embrace the “lifestyle” are far often way to self-congratulating and hate on other forms of transportation, which turns off a lot of people to “people who ride bikes/cyclists” in general. (how many times have i heard someone get up on a soapbox about the evil of cars without having any idea about where the person they are lecturing is coming from?)
    Anyways…it seems to me Momentum Magazine is little more than one big advertisement for bike gear, so I think its a poor example. It also takes the soapbox tone more often than i feel like it should. Urban Velo, while having that “high-horse” tone at times, tends to be more of a celebration and not to be just one big advertisement for overpriced crap to buy

  • Tym

    i like your article. while I'm a “cyclist” thru and thru (i've been a bike courier for 6 years, and racing that long as well), I agree that seeing the bicycle as a means of conveyance and not a lifestyle is important for re-introducing bicycles as a viable mode of transit.
    New commuters who embrace the “lifestyle” are far often way to self-congratulating and hate on other forms of transportation, which turns off a lot of people to “people who ride bikes/cyclists” in general. (how many times have i heard someone get up on a soapbox about the evil of cars without having any idea about where the person they are lecturing is coming from?)
    Anyways…it seems to me Momentum Magazine is little more than one big advertisement for bike gear, so I think its a poor example. It also takes the soapbox tone more often than i feel like it should. Urban Velo, while having that “high-horse” tone at times, tends to be more of a celebration and not to be just one big advertisement for overpriced crap to buy

  • ben trovato

    A two-thousand dollar bike is just crazy, but a thirty-thousand dollar truck, heck, that's all-american

  • ben trovato

    A two-thousand dollar bike is just crazy, but a thirty-thousand dollar truck, heck, that's all-american

  • Anc

    I'm about to buy a two-thousand dollar truck, hopefully this weekend. Does that mean I need to buy a thirty-thousand dollar bicycle? ;)

  • Anc

    I'm about to buy a two-thousand dollar truck, hopefully this weekend. Does that mean I need to buy a thirty-thousand dollar bicycle? ;)

  • 7inSantuko

    Another, though slightly more crass and far less thoughtful, discussion on the same topic: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/…

  • 7inSantuko

    Another, though slightly more crass and far less thoughtful, discussion on the same topic: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/…

  • Joey

    I ride because it's fun for me. I ride because I enjoy it. I ride because it is exercise and keeps me in shape. I ride because I save money on gas. I ride to get from point A to point B in a more enjoyable way. I don't let a bike define me. I define the way I use the bike. I don't wear spandex or bike suits. I don't commiserate with other spandex wearing cyclists. I don't care what they all say about my bicycle. I love my bicycle.

  • Joey

    I ride because it's fun for me. I ride because I enjoy it. I ride because it is exercise and keeps me in shape. I ride because I save money on gas. I ride to get from point A to point B in a more enjoyable way. I don't let a bike define me. I define the way I use the bike. I don't wear spandex or bike suits. I don't commiserate with other spandex wearing cyclists. I don't care what they all say about my bicycle. I love my bicycle.

  • http://www.bikejuju.com Bikejuju

    Thanks for starting this discussion. I'm not sure I'd rank supporting magazines above building better infrastructure, but I support the general idea here.

  • http://www.bikejuju.com Bikejuju

    Thanks for starting this discussion. I'm not sure I'd rank supporting magazines above building better infrastructure, but I support the general idea here.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/this.is.lance.miller Lance Miller

    I'm a rider, not a cyclist. My bike is a Dutch Bakfiet, which I needed to do all the transportation duties of a family with toddler.

    While our family has credibility points for being car-less and entirely bike, walking and occasional bus, I don't want grouping with the intense cycling crowd, nor the Cycling First crowd who are carelessly attempting to destroy the Ballard industrial and old town district with the Burke-Gilman completion. The railway in that area is sorely needed for the businesses.
    Want a railway that truly hurts my bike commute? Try the South Lake Union Trolley. I bicycle over both, the Ballard rail line, and the SLU trolley,
    and the trolley line creates by far a more dangerous and inconvenient situation. Of course, cyclist political organ Cascade Bicycle Club will never see something so subtle or true, and will continue their identity politics template -pushing working class out of the city and replacing with white collar Gucci cyclists.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/this.is.lance.miller Lance Miller

    I'm a rider, not a cyclist. My bike is a Dutch Bakfiet, which I needed to do all the transportation duties of a family with toddler.

    While our family has credibility points for being car-less and entirely bike, walking and occasional bus, I don't want grouping with the intense cycling crowd, nor the Cycling First crowd who are carelessly attempting to destroy the Ballard industrial and old town district with the Burke-Gilman completion. The railway in that area is sorely needed for the businesses.
    Want a railway that truly hurts my bike commute? Try the South Lake Union Trolley. I bicycle over both, the Ballard rail line, and the SLU trolley,
    and the trolley line creates by far a more dangerous and inconvenient situation. Of course, cyclist political organ Cascade Bicycle Club will never see something so subtle or true, and will continue their identity politics template -pushing working class out of the city and replacing with white collar Gucci cyclists.

  • Stealth Shifter

    Of course it does, silly. Just to be sure you're a bicycling cyclist, though, you want to be sure you have a CL $30 dollar 1978 Schwinn. (I wanted to fit all the semantics in there.)

  • Stealth Shifter

    Of course it does, silly. Just to be sure you're a bicycling cyclist, though, you want to be sure you have a CL $30 dollar 1978 Schwinn. (I wanted to fit all the semantics in there.)

  • Stealth Shifter

    So, Joey, just because sometimes I put on my Lycra you wouldn't talk to me? I'm pretty hot (especially in Minnesota's 95˚F May ending), but you might not know I was a Lycra-wearing cyclist, because sometimes I'm a mini-skirt wearing bike-rider (who sometimes passes cyclists).

  • Stealth Shifter

    So, Joey, just because sometimes I put on my Lycra you wouldn't talk to me? I'm pretty hot (especially in Minnesota's 95˚F May ending), but you might not know I was a Lycra-wearing cyclist, because sometimes I'm a mini-skirt wearing bike-rider (who sometimes passes cyclists).

  • Stealth Shifter

    I biked a roughly 7 mile route to work, and, as long as there was some warm tap-water and I had a wash-cloth, I could clean up well enough to be at work, presentably. It's nice if the wash-room is private, but it's amazing what a little creativity can do.

  • Stealth Shifter

    I biked a roughly 7 mile route to work, and, as long as there was some warm tap-water and I had a wash-cloth, I could clean up well enough to be at work, presentably. It's nice if the wash-room is private, but it's amazing what a little creativity can do.

  • http://twitter.com/randyrasa Randy Rasa

    A “person who rides a bike” is a “cyclist” — that's the definition of the word. Why make a distinction?

  • http://twitter.com/randyrasa Randy Rasa

    A “person who rides a bike” is a “cyclist” — that's the definition of the word. Why make a distinction?

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    When the surface area of the body covered in spandex exceeds 30 percent, the person becomes a “cyclist”.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    When the surface area of the body covered in spandex exceeds 30 percent, the person becomes a “cyclist”.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    You're supposed to put your $5500 road bike on the trolley so the other people can see how trendy you are, not actually ride it on the street.

  • http://spifflines.blogspot.com/ John Bailo

    You're supposed to put your $5500 road bike on the trolley so the other people can see how trendy you are, not actually ride it on the street.

  • pEvans

    Title-as-ilnk from Daily Fizz did seem like flame bait to me, but the article isn't bad. 2 pts for Josh.

    Gotta say, though: as a bicycle rider/cyclist/whatever who just enjoys the act of tooling along smelling the air and hearing birdsong, in my experience about 95% of other people on bikes are really accepting and inclusive if you're actually on the thing. I cannot say the same for too many other fields or endeavors.

  • pEvans

    Title-as-ilnk from Daily Fizz did seem like flame bait to me, but the article isn't bad. 2 pts for Josh.

    Gotta say, though: as a bicycle rider/cyclist/whatever who just enjoys the act of tooling along smelling the air and hearing birdsong, in my experience about 95% of other people on bikes are really accepting and inclusive if you're actually on the thing. I cannot say the same for too many other fields or endeavors.

  • http://bikecyclinglife.wordpress.com John

    Good article, Josh. Ever since the early days of cycling (1890s), improvement in the conditions for cycling have come when there were lots of people (voters) riding bikes. The same is true today. We need as many people on bikes as possible. I don't care if they ride all the way or use multimodal transportation so long as some of it is on a bike. Don't care what kind of bike or trike; assisted or not. Might even include wheel chairs and small scooters too!

    Point is there is strength in numbers. So let's maximize the numbers!

  • http://bikecyclinglife.wordpress.com John

    Good article, Josh. Ever since the early days of cycling (1890s), improvement in the conditions for cycling have come when there were lots of people (voters) riding bikes. The same is true today. We need as many people on bikes as possible. I don't care if they ride all the way or use multimodal transportation so long as some of it is on a bike. Don't care what kind of bike or trike; assisted or not. Might even include wheel chairs and small scooters too!

    Point is there is strength in numbers. So let's maximize the numbers!

  • paul rendon sr.

    I totally agree with duke, I feel the same, I've been riding since I was 12 yrs. young I'am now 69 yrs. young. of course I drive a car.but I've always had a bicycle to ride for fun,like camping trips, or to the store, or around town. to get away and be alone with my thougts for the day, with nature.don't need expensive equipment,just a bakpack.

  • paul rendon sr.

    I agree it's up to duke if he choose's to ride his bike one mile or fifteen,or drive his car or take a cab.he works pays taxes for things that probley don't even effect his personal life.He's not pumping gasoline into a car,pollutting the air you breath one less car on the road, huray for all the dukes out there.the ten dollors that you are subsidizing are part of his taxes too.

  • http://www.montaguebikes.com LBJ

    Another thing that could really help encourage multi-modal commuting is folding bikes – I have one an I love it. Great to ride, but also goes on the bus really easily. I got mine here: http://www.montaguebikes.com/folding-bike/

  • Anonymous

    I’m agree that 95% of other people on bikes are really accepting and inclusive if you’re actually on the thing.I can also notice they ride all the way or use multimodal transportation so long as some of it is on a bike.If you like smth doen’t matter how much it is. Don’t forget we remember only one life, so enjoy it!
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  • Erikkko

    Spam much?