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Put The Grid Back Through Seattle Center

Oh Seattle, look at you getting all worked up over the proposal for a Chihuly “glass house” in Seattle Center. Granted, Chihuly has become more of a bland corporation than an artist, and the whole idea goes against the public spirit of Seattle Center. But a relatively small tourist trap of a glass museum isn’t going to have much of an impact on the overall future of Seattle Center.

Right now what matters a whole lot more is that the 2008 Seattle Center Master Plan calling for half a billion dollars of improvements is going to be mothballed due to lack of funds. That’s sad state of affairs, because Seattle Center is starving for big ideas that will bring big change, and I think I’ve got one such idea that has the potential to massively transform Seattle Center for the better.  Hint: It involves building more roads.

It’s no secret that Seattle Center is kind of a mess. I’ve been visiting Seattle Center for almost two decades—both as a single person and as a parent—and though it has its charms, there is something overwhelmingly dysfunctional about the place. Seattle Center is not a place where people from the neighborhood tend to casually stop by just to hang out, because there is little reason to go there unless you are heading to a major function or destination such as a museum; there are no typical local urban uses like shops or cafes that encourage people to linger.

And externally, Seattle Center is an island, and is not well connected to the surrounding neighborhoods—it functions more as a divider than as a uniter. And on top of all that, getting there from other neighborhoods by any means other than a car tends to be a hassle.

And so I say, as many have said before: Seattle Center needs an extreme makeover.

Taking out the stadium, as proposed in the Master Plan, is an excellent bold move to start with. But how about something even more radical and counterintuitive: What if we brought the street grid back in?

Not everywhere, but in several strategic locations. And not typical streets, but woonerfs, where pedestrians and cars safely share the street, like they do in Pike Place. When events like Bumbershoot happen, the streets get closed.

The diagram above illustates a quick study of how it might look. Given the context, the most important streets to bring through would be 2nd Ave and Thomas St. But as shown, some combination of Republican, Harrison, John, Nob Hill, and 4th Ave should also be considered.

SDOT’s Mercer Street plan will eliminate Broad Street as far south as Harrison Street, but there is no major need for it south of Harrison either. The plan above also shows the opportunities that would arise with Broad Street taken out all the way to Denny Way. Potential open space expansions are in shown in green, and improved redevelopment sites are in orange.

Many will no doubt react negatively to this concept because they believe cars would drastically compromise the pedestrian experience. But I’d argue that there is more to be more gained than lost. Many of the world’s most popular open spaces happily coexist with cars. And there would still be plenty of spaces secluded from traffic.

The new streets would open up Seattle Center and help knit it back into the surrounding urban fabric, attracting more people and creating much needed energy. Overall, I believe that bringing back the grid is perhaps our most promising strategy for transforming Seattle Center into the true urban living room that it apspires to be.


  • chrisf

    I'll buy that argument. Definitely worth a closer look.

  • andy

    Style points for thinking “outside the box”, but please go back into your box. Can you imagine doing this to Central Park? You don't give any reasons why having cars driving around in the park would “knit it back together”. You just say it would. Do we just have to take your word for it? Just leave it a fussgangerzone–no need to woonerf-ize it.

  • Anc

    Uh, you don't have to imagine. It's already there.

    http://www.aaccessmaps.com/show/map/us/ny/centr…

  • Robert_Cruickshank

    Who let Joel Kotkin write for Publicola?

    This article asserts that cars might not necessarily detract from the walkability of the site, but that assertion isn't explained in any detail at all. I have a difficult time seeing how cars and pedestrians can be accommodated without dramatically changing Seattle Center away from a kind of urban park to another neighborhood.

    Obviously Seattle Center needs some help to be brought into the 21st century. But true pedestrian places are already rare enough in the city. It's hard to imagine what would be gained by this, and easy to see what would be lost.

  • miller

    nah…woonerfs are cool in theory, but this is America..i don't see what auto traffic would bring to Seattle Center other than obnoxious suburbanites in SUV's

    how about a “grid” but only for pedestrians/bikes…like a street grid permanently closed of to cars

  • Anc

    When I lived in Heidelberg Germany, you would see cars on Hauptstrasse (mainstreet) in the Altstadt (Old Medieval section) even though it was basically a pedestrian mall. As long as it is made clear that pedestrians have the right of way and cars are playing second fiddle (thus doing all of 2mp) I don't see how having access to certain sections is necessarily a bad idea.

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/_yFiI8K7WIIM/Rre50_YuTLI/A…
    (careful with slow browsers, pic is freakin HUGE)

    However, considering this is a park, and not a business district, I'm not sure I see how it is necessarily a GOOD idea for the park either (would their be more parking or something?). Hopefully Dan will come along and enlighten us.

  • J.R.

    Well, you got me, Dan. I don't get your idea at all. Seattle Center is already a fine place to walk, although it's more of a pedestrian short cut than a destination. You sound like your underlying argument is to change the land use in the center, adding shops and the like to add pedestrian interest. But I don't see why we need cars to do that.

  • Timothy

    Hmmm…I actually like this idea.

    My idea, for a while, has been to put some residential spaces, apartments or condos, into the mix as well. Make it a place where people go and actually live, and to also put in some ground-level retail on the outside and periphery that would draw people in as well. The Center needs LIFE and this idea would certainly bring some of that back in.

    I like it…

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    I love the Center, and visit often – I'd say a good 20 times in the last year. There isn't much to do in Seattle for free when it's raining, but at the Center there's usually some sort of cheezy festival going on (last time I went to the accordion festival, and a while ago I went to the wiener dog race). In the summer there's the fountain and outdoor movies, not to mention the Science Center and taking the monorail to downtown.

    I suppose all of this except the outdoor movies could happen even with cars, but it sure doesn't sound as fun.

    I think [andy] has a point – you haven't really articulated what cars would bring to the Seattle Center experience.

  • Cascadian

    I like this idea. Most of the proposed roads are actually road-sized walkways now so it's not really that big of a change. But during the majority of times when there's not a big event on, this takes a neglected area and makes it accessible to the community. For it really to work, how about moving the restaurants out of the Center House to along the sides of some of the new roads. My main concern is that there's not enough room to put in broad sidewalks and still have room for the woonerfs. I also wonder what the legal status is of putting in roads considering the private ownership of much of the site.

    It's worth a study, at least.

  • goodwork

    I gotta say I hate this idea. I walk through both the Seattle Center and Pike Place all the time and my least favorite thing about the Market is all the cars. I also don't necessarily agree that this isn't a used public place, have you ever been to the fountain on hot days? It could certainly be more pedestrian friendly but that means less concrete and more green-space. More loud and dangerous cars isn't the answer.

  • Anc

    Think of woonerfs as a zebrastripe that goes down the entire street. In such an scenario cars would be neither loud nor dangerous.

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    I also don't get the argument that the Seattle Center is currently a dead space except when events are happening. Take a look at the schedule – events are always happening. I never see the place close to empty.

  • lookingforward

    Typical urbanist one size fits all solution to any perceived underutilized area: add grid, stir in street life and voila! Wonderful urban space. Which might work fi trying to fix urban spaces. This is a park. It can be a good thing to have passive, pastoral, places. Not everything has to be active, agitated and asphalted.

  • andy

    I see no grid there, just three roads. You are talking about reconnecting the grid. To belabor the central park thing, that would mean adding about 18 new east west roads, and two north south roads through the park.

  • giffy

    And not typical streets, but woonerfs, where pedestrians and cars safely share the street, like they do in Pike Place

    Yeah, that clusterfuck of a street is certainly something we should replicate!

    How about a couple of street car lines intersecting at the Center? The 1st Ave street car could run there and we could run one up Mercer as well. Running a bunch of cars though a park is not exactly the kind of bold thinking we need.

  • andy

    Thanks for reiterating my point. Why does adding cars make it better? Especially since most of the cars would be Prius (Priui ?) They would all have their pedals stuck to the floor and you can't hear those damn things coming.

  • joshmahar

    In agreement with many of these other folks, I'm not exactly sure what adding vehicle traffic would do to enhance the Center. Assuming you don't intend to also add a bunch of parking, the only reason for people to use this in a vehicle would be to shortcut through the center to get between Uptown and SLU or as a pick up/drop off kind of thing.

    I also think the whole argument is founded on trying to make Seattle Center something that goes wholly against its grain. All of the major attractions at Seattle Center (Space Needle, EMP, PSC, PNB, KeyArea) are completely independent, internal activities. Aside from that the area acts like a neighborhood park where individuals come to play in the fountain, kick a ball around, or just enjoy the sunshine (when it's there).

    I think opening up the center house to engage it more with the outdoors would be great but this will simply never be a vibrant urban neighborhood like Pike/Pine or 1st Ave in Belltown and I don't think we necessarily need to try to make it that either, there are many opportunities to get that experience (and for improvement) on surrounding streets.

    I think we would do much better to push for the recommendations already listed in the Seattle Center Plan, namely, redo the Center House and add additional greenspace (especially if we can incorporate more open space that can also act as a learning or educational opportunity such as native plant ecosystems or a gardening center).

  • giffy

    Cars are not exactly quite even when going slow. And really its not like people obey traffic laws 100%.

  • joshuadf

    I like the idea of vacating Broad.

    A couple points: the Lower Queen Anne / South Lake Union shared visioning thing proposed an east-west streetcar route on Harrison and/or Thomas (the current streetcar base is at Harrison at Fairview):
    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/335010_growth11….

    Also, Thomas St is the best potential route for a Elliot Bay to Lake Union ped/bike trail. I can't say I like the idea of sharing it with cars, though a well-designed Complete Street might do nicely.

  • Ezra

    Yuck .. Dan

  • joshuadf

    I agree about the events, but the center has horrible transit connections except to Belltown and Queen Anne. The 8 is the only option from the east (Aurora's fault really). If you want to get there via bus early for a SIFF event or get home on a Sunday night you're pretty much out of luck.

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    Well it has great connections to Ballard, Fremont and Magnolia as well.

    Where are you trying to go on a Sunday night? Wherever it is, take the 1, 2, 3, 4, 13, 15, or 18 downtown and transfer from there. It's not Seattle Center's fault that Sunday night buses are infrequent or that the neighborhoods aren't directly connected.

  • alexbroner

    Yes to the grid, meh to the cars.

    As a bicyclist and a pedestrian I like the grid. It's intuitive. It's fast. When I first moved here and needed to get to places in the vicinity of Seattle center it was a bit difficult. Upon entering the center it wasn't always clear what street I'd be on when I rejoined the grid. The fact that car traffic CAN be done through Seattle center, intermingling with pedestrians and such doesn't mean it should be done. I'd much rather exclude them altogether but make pedestrian and bicycle wayfinding much easier. Also, if the center is to gain a more urban and less disney quality to its traffic, it'll need urban and not disney attractants. What about stores and restaurants and cafe's targeted toward normal people? Would normal people even consider going to Seattle Center for such things?

  • Anc

    I don't believe Dan was talking about reconnecting every street. The map was only to demonstrate different possibilities, and even on it, there were only 3 E-W streets and 2 N-S that 'reconnect' through the park.

  • Anc

    True. Someone should really try getting a 'Vulnerable User' bill or some such to cut down on that stuff! ;)

  • alexbroner

    I think the model of this should be the attractions in and next to pike place market. Sure a lot of tourist go there but so do lots of local people. As it stands, the presence of cars is barely tolerably. It's really crowded and they get in the way. I think that the First Ave streetcar is a good idea and if built could connect Seattle center to Pike place and much else.

  • joe

    Restoring the grid is a great idea. The Center is a huge barrier between neighborhoods and increases traffic on the other streets. The Center isn't anything like a cohesive park anyway (ridiculous to compare it to Central Park in NYC), but a bunch of separate event and tourist spaces that are difficult to access and mostly underused. A couple of small streets with on-street parking would help bring some needed energy to the area.

  • oiseaux

    My least favorite part about the Market is the super-sized amount of slow tourists. This is one moment where I can say thank god for cars (there aren't many). I really love that Pike Pl is a pedestrian/car mixed use right-of-way, because most of the slow tourists clog up the sidewalks while I glide down Pike Pl with the cars at normal walking pace.

  • phil

    Nothing like traffic to improve a park.

    Think of the fun the children will have running between cars.

  • huh?

    “Seattle Center is not a place where people from the neighborhood tend to casually stop by just to hang out, because there is little reason to go there unless you are heading to a major function or destination such as a museum”

    Just like Lincoln Center in NYC. Why goop it up with roads? Why not keep it a special events place, and just increase the number/variety of special events?

  • Selma

    I walked through Seattle Center tonight. There were scores of people out and about enjoying the beautiful weather. These people could not have had such a nice time had they been dodging traffic — like they have to do throughout the rest of the city.

    This is a very stupid suggestion. It demonstrates why the author is writing about these decisions instead of (thankfully) not actually being trusted to make them.

  • joshuadf

    U-District. Going downtown was the frustrating thing about trying to get north eventually. We also sometimes walked on Mercer under Aurora over to Fairview to catch a 71/72/73.

    My general feeling is that basically any neighborhood has decent transit connections to adjacent neighborhoods, but if you want to be able to get to a wider variety of places you have to go downtown. The U-District is a bit of an exception, and I bet if every Seattleite had a UPASS we'd have better transit in general.

  • Chad

    An advantage of street grids is that they distribute traffic. Superblocks such as the Seattle Center or most shopping malls concentrate traffic onto major arterials at the periphery. Currently everyone must cross a busy, multi-lane arterial to get into the Center, which is a big part of why the Center is seen as a barrier to the surrounding neighborhoods. Mercer, 5th, Denny, 1st.

    Punching a street grid through the Seattle Center could work if road diets for the surrounding streets were on the table,

  • marymaryquitecontrary

    I agree. I like the busy feeling that the cars add to the Market. It's more European for me that way, oddly.

    I find it funny that typically anti-car, anti-roads Publicola has a post supporting new roads, but I agree that Seattle Center is a dead space. The reason it's not Central Park is that it's on the outskirts of the city core– it's not central. Central Park is the connection point between the east and west sides of Manhattan. It's rimmed with cultural institutions & filled with interesting features. It was also designed by Frederick Law Olmstead, who knew a thing or two about creating great spaces (hello, Volunteer Park). I think we need to do something to use that space more effectively– and a Chihuly museum ain't it (gag). Maybe we need to start thinking of Lake Union as our central city looping park and just give over Seattle Center entirely.

  • man, y'all crazy

    maybe we should punch a few more roads across those super blocks called lake washington and lake union so we can get from point a to point b quicker in our cars.

    man, this density/no cars crew is one mixed up bunch

  • Selma

    Right? I don't really get the thinking behind this group. It's like they read Sweet Pickles too many times and thought a real city could actually function like that.

    Density is good, so long as it doesn't look goofy (and by their measure, it always does), has lots of “activating” cafes and shops, and, apparently, has European names for roads. The vision begins and ends at everyone else is doing it all wrong.

    I'm not inspired by this guy.

  • Wells

    As if your parking garage museum idea for Portland’s Memorial Coliseum wasn’t bad enough (I voted it Worst of Show), now you think running streets through Seattle Center grounds is a good idea. Are you nuts?

    A grand Chiluly art structure would match EMP very well and a gallery would be a popular attraction alongside the Space Needle. My beef with the design is that the ‘footprint’ is too big already and making it larger worsens the problems of visibility and access.

    So, I recommend a taller building with a smaller footprint, 3-stories w/ basement. All sides with glass views. Assign the Chiluly Gallery to the top floor; 2nd floor for kids amusements and games plus food court; 1st floor grand thru-way to amphitheater lined with boutique shops; basement access to Circulator Monorail station, offices, etc. Install a Bubbleator to top floor.

    Seattle Center will not add a street grid, Dan. Forget it.

  • MudBaby

    I love this idea. While we're at it let's also add street grids to Discovery and Seward Parks. And why stop there? Green Lake is sort of a bitch to drive around. Why not lay in some fill pads and pave them to improve traffic circulation?

  • Bradleycomp

    Promoting walkability by introducing cars. Nutty.

    It's true that traffic around the center is sometimes tied up by cars' use of the adjacent parking structures, but opening up the center to cars and parking and traffic is the opposite way to fix it.

    Nothing warms my heart more than seeing people WALKING to the Key Arena or to the Opera or the center house. Nothing inspires my love for people more than seeing the families playing by the fountain and indulging themselves at the many non-profit organizations that provide wonderful activities for all.

    Nothing would see me sadder than diluting the ragged but vibrant lower Queen Anne business district with all of their wonderful restaurants and bars within easy walking distance of said center.

    A disaster of an idea.

  • Walt

    I have to say. This is the lamest idea I have ever heard. There is no shortage of ideas for the center, just a shortage of funding. Pony up Seattle!

  • Matt_the_Engineer

    I would like to point out that I love the idea of woonerfs. I just would much rather convert a street to one rather than a park.

  • Wells

    Hey. Dan didn't like my comment that the idea was worse than the one his company proposed for Portland. So he pulled it. Understandable, I suppose. I called it “Worst of Show” Boo hoo. Dan, the grid idea is stupid, OK? Sorry to be so blunt about it. You could support a Chiluly Sculpture next to Center House, but oppose a wider 1-story building. You think yourself an urbanist-type but gridding Seattle Center is insane.

    “Tunnelite” offers a 'forest-like pathway' up to Steinbrueck Park with no cars at all visible.

    “Deep-Bore” tunnel imposes 4 lanes of stalled cars between sidewalks and bike lanes. Dan, you think yourself an environmentalist too, but do you still support the Deep-bore tunnel insanity? OMG Put your own emphasis on OMG. My emphasis will be — insulted by too many clueless smartasses.

  • where do I park?

    The 16, or the 30 if it's not too late on Sunday?

  • joshuadf

    “too late” being 6pm! It's also impossible to get their by 10am for a SIFF event. The 16 only goes to Wallingford, though I guess that's sort of walking distance.

  • joshuadf

    We were at Seattle Center yesterday and I couldn't help noticing that most of the street grid actually is there as paved single-lane paths (already used by VIPs and maintenance vehicles, much like the “streets” of UW campus). I think what Seattle Center needs isn't more streets but more urbanism–street-facing retail especially. Why do I need to go inside the Center House to get lunch or a snack? During the large festivals they already set up food booths, I'd like to see a few permanent street food vendors near the fountain. There's already a popcorn cart.

  • Wells

    I called Dan's proposal for Portland “Worst of Show” and he pulled it, Boo hoo. Understandable, I suppose. The grid idea is stupid, OK? Sorry to be so blunt about it. You all could support a large Chiluly Sculpture next to Center House and you could oppose a Widened 1-story building. Dan thinks himself an urbanist-type, but gridding Seattle Center is insane.
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    “Tunnelite” offers a 'forest-like pathway' up to Steinbrueck Park with no cars visible beneath Tunnelite's north portal and half caps.
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    “Deep-Bore” tunnel imposes 4 lanes of stalled cars between sidewalks and bike lanes. Dan thinks himself an environmentalist too, but still supports the Deep-Bore tunnel. OMG!, this pisses me off. Dan's no dummy, but get real on this stupid Deep-Boor bad deal.

  • revroux

    I think continuing the grid has great potential to make it more accessible to bikes and pedestrians. As an obstacle to the grid, it is an obstacle to car, bike and pedestrian traffic. The surrounding streets become collectors for car traffic which are not bike friendly or easy to cross as a pedestrian. Also, most of the edges of the park are parking lots or nearly blank facades. As it is Seattle Center does not interact with the city and the grid would allow the city to penetrate the park.

  • Andrew

    Dan,
    Great idea, I agree Seattle center has unmet potential. Start with a pilot project of one woonerf (maybe at Thomas St.) and see if it improves or detracts. If successful then repeat. On-street parking on at least one side might be great too.