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McGinn Reiterates Opposition to Tunnel, Support for 520 Rail at UW Talk

In an unscripted speech to a packed room full of UW architecture students and faculty and staff last night, Mayor Mike McGinn reminisced about his campaign, laid out the case for light rail on 520, and made it clear that he hasn’t budged in his opposition to the $4.2 billion downtown tunnel.

McGinn’s fired-up talk, which reminded me of his campaign stump speech, was a notable departure from his staid, overlong inauguration remarks.

McGinn’s most compelling point was one I hadn’t heard him make in quite this way before: He argued that leaders who say it’s too late to revisit the idea of light rail on 520 had no problem revisiting the downtown tunnel after voters rejected both a tunnel and a new elevated viaduct.

“People voted down a tunnel, people voted down a new elevated and then the legislature and the governor came back with something people never even voted on,” McGinn said. “So when people say it’s too late to (consider) something else for 520, (I respond,) it wasn’t too late to build a deep-bore tunnel when that’s what the powerful interests wanted.

“We have no shortage of money. We have a shortage of political will.”

McGinn also touched a recent poll of voters on both sides of Lake Washington, which found that “sixty-nine percent of the people on this side of the lake think light rail on 520 is a good idea, and 70 percent of the people on that side of the lake think light rail on 520 is a good idea. So we have this idea that it’s east vs. west, but it isn’t—it’s legislators vs. the people.”

And he took questions for about an hour, on subjects ranging from his support base during the campaign (“we went to the service workers unions thinking we’d never get their support because all of the big construction unions wanted that tunnel, but they ended up backing me”) to his decision to spend so much political capital so early in his term (“I admit I’m a little bit hesitant to get into another big fight with everyone.”)


  • Concerned

    Off topic….but did anyone call Joe Mallahan and remind him to vote today?? I'm assuming McGinn's staff made sure to put it on his schedule….at least I hope!

  • http://twitter.com/orinthe Nathaniel Ekoniak

    Regardless of the merits or demerits of any of the 520 or Viaduct replacement solutions, the situations just aren't at all the same. “Pols choose own solution after voters reject several others” is not the same thing as “pols change mind about solution previously agreed upon by, among others, said pols”. N'est-ce pas?

  • giffy

    We have no shortage of money. We have a shortage of political will.

    Um…. I think money is a problem as well, unless he thinks the state has a few billions hidden to run light rail across the lake and connect it to anything useful.

    Making the lanes convertible to light rail is important, but there is zero reason to lay the tracks now.

  • paulwest

    It's just so stupid, so idiotic that we'd “rebuild” 520 WITHOUT real, progressive, common-sense transit options. To focus on “adding lanes” misses the whole point. Statistically, those lanes just fill up with cars and the traffic slog remains. We need REAL transit going across the bridge. Hell, I think transit on 520 in the form of light rail should extend over the I-5 interchange and into downtown Seattle — that would help alleviate the I-5 mess that builds up to the Mercer exit.

  • John

    I completely agree with the Mayor's position on 520 and other issues as well. This is the first mayor i have seen recently who has public interest in mind. Mr mayor all the people of Seattle are in full agreement on those issues and hope you will live up to your promises

  • Michael W.

    John – You might want to be careful before you speak for all the people of Seattle and when you use terms like full agreement.

  • debeddy

    @John, @Paulwest: Please get some information on the existing plans before commenting. The rebuild is totally focused on transit and bike/ped, plus mitigation of previous environmental impacts. It is PAID for largely by those people in the (remaining) GP lanes. Without those GP lanes, there is no money to build the thing.

  • Progressive

    I think the job approval of this mayor is about 90%. I talk to a lot of people, and they are very satisfy with how he is handling the curren city affairs. He anounced Youth and Family initiative, Came up with Sea-Wall- pretty popular policy, and also 520 which he has unprecedented puplic support. I think he turned out to be better than many people thought in the begining.

  • Mingistu

    @ Concerned: Mallahan does not vote. Last time he voted was 1996.And now what happen to him last election, I wonder if he will ever vote again.

  • whut

    Wouldn't “reminiscing about his campaign” basically describe McGinn's time in office so far?

  • concerned

    90% approval…..please…..I doubt he polls over 50% with the staff of the mayor's office.

  • soapboxin

    Mike Bikes seems reinvigorated this week. He's gone back to his core messages, which are pretty good – as long as your objective isn't to have big, wide, free roads for your Chevy Tahoe.
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    The jury's still out, but he went from an unlistenable droning hack, to an antagonistic hypocrite, and now back to good ol' Mike Bikes.
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    For now, at least, it seems like he took his month-long ass-whoopin' to heart in a good way. Let's hope so, cuz we're stuck with him.

  • history buff

    “he hasn’t budged in his opposition to the $4.2 billion downtown tunnel”

    LOL. Mikie has been dancing from end of the ballroom to the other on this issue. I'd like to see what kind of support he has for his surface “solution”. I hope PubliCola does us all a service and calls him on that. It is one thing to criticize a plan, it is a whole other level of leadership to come up with a better one. He doesn't have one.

  • Zander

    Off topic: It's kind of weird that McGinn didn't do a publicity event to support the School Levy. Thought the School District was one of his big issue way back last year.

  • JohnS

    paulwest, unless you have billions more for a new light rail tunnel downtown, there's no where for that new light rail to go. When Link is built out to Northgate and the Eastside via 90, the existing downtown tunnel will be at capacity. I'm all for new transit capacity, but you have to have a place to connect it into the system.

  • Mary O

    Just a reminder that the public never voted on the deep-bore tunnel so let's stop saying they voted it down. I'd think Mayor McGinn would have actually read up on this by now. Also, if McGinn is turning away from his promise that while he disagreed with the tunnel it was his job to see it through, then he has become like evey other politician with regard to his so-called campaign promises. He said it to get elected and now it's history.

  • reply

    don't be misinformed–the bridge IS designed to allow for future light rail in
    mind–mcginn likes to ignore that detail. he is fighting to have it NOW–no opposition here to that, but where's the money going to come from?
    the addition of more billions is harder to find than you'd think considering there isn't full funding for it even now.

  • danadb

    Seattle has a once in a century opportunity to create a beautiful downtown waterfront that would be the envy of cities all over the world. I hope McGinn is true to his word and won't stand in the way of this, though I doubt this will be the case. His seawall plan is transparent as is his backpedaling on this issue relative to cost overruns. The tunnel is necessary not only to create a beautiful waterfront but to support freight mobility, which is the lifeblood of our economy (i.e. we are the most trade dependent region in the US). Too bad McGinn is squandering his position to wage a pointless war on cars. Seattle is ranked #5 in the US in terms of traffic. McGinn's goal is to see that we move to #1.