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Should There be Restrictions to Online Freedom?

[Washington State Attorney General, Republican Rob McKenna, debuts PubliCola's new op/ed column, as we begin regularly publishing opinion pieces by prominent local leaders .]

Should there be limits to your ability to click on whatever you like on the Web? Your first instinct may be to say no, especially if you’re not aware of something awful lurking in the darkest intersections of the Internet.

Much has been made of file-sharing sites that facilitate the trade of copyrighted music and movies. But many child pornography traffickers use this same file-sharing technology to trade images of child sexual abuse, profiting from the horrific abuse of kids. The demand for online child pornography has exploded, and the demand is being met by the systematic sexual assault and trafficking of children.

“These are incredibly disturbing images of small children being abused by adults—both males and females alike,” said Lisa Johnson, of the King County Prosecutor’s Sexual Assault Unit, at a recent hearing in Olympia.  “Sometimes these are infants. Sometimes they are tied down. They are all naked. Nearly every one of them is being penetrated in some way.”

The possession of these kinds of images and videos is illegal. But users of child pornography have found a work-around by using the Internet to view illegal files, without printing or downloading the images. In the era of YouTube-type technology, these images no longer need to be possessed. They exist primarily in digital form, shifting from server to server, to be found by those who know where to look.

That’s why we assembled a bipartisan coalition to respond to technological changes that have allowed some of the most depraved members of society to enjoy pictures and videos that memorialize gruesome crimes against children. Supporters include Sen. Adam Kline (D-Seattle), who previously had serious concerns about the new law. This year he’s adopted our proposal in SB 6397 making it a felony to intentionally view child pornography on the Internet.

The legislation also responds to recent State Supreme Court rulings that effectively allow a volume discount for possessing child porn. Under current law, a person caught with thousands of pictures of children being sexually assaulted may only face a single charge of possessing child pornography.

Scientific studies show that those who seek sexual arousal from pictures or movies of children being molested are interested in actual victims. A 2000 study by the Federal Bureau of Prisons found that 76 percent of offenders convicted of possessing child porn admitted to getting away with sex crimes against children. Offenders each victimized an average of 30.5 children

“At the same homes and the same places where you find people who are abusing children—often, unfortunately, their own—you will often find these images,” said Snohomish County Prosecutor Mark Roe, speaking at the House hearing.

Opponents of the legislation raise the specter of out-of-control police and prosecutors, eager to unfairly snare those who accidentally click on the wrong file, or lose control of their computer to a hacker or virus. But our proposal isn’t a blank check for drift-netting on the Internet, in search of anyone clicking on questionable material. If our bill passes, prosecutors would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a user of child pornography intentionally and repeatedly sought out illegal files. Today’s digital forensic examinations, utilized by investigators, prove intent.

“If someone says, ‘Oh, I inadvertently stumbled upon the same image of the same naked child 184 times in a three day period,’ and you’re on the jury, are you buying that?” asks Roe, the Snohomish County prosecutor.

In the heat of the legislative session, it’s easy to assume that Republicans and Democrats clash on nearly every issue. Not so here. SB 6397 and its companion, HB 2424,  enjoy bipartisan support. Yet a few policymakers less familiar with digital technology remain skeptical.

This is our third year attempting to get a bill passed to address these crimes. Our bills died in 2008 and 2009, in part because they are opposed by criminal defense attorneys. In previous years, defense attorney lobbyists raised enough questions to spook legislators, who then refused to vote our bills out of legislative committees.

That’s how most bills die. There’s no up or down vote; a clock simply runs out.Will the Legislature ultimately vote in additional protections of children from these heinous crimes? Time is short as the 60-day legislative session rolls on.

Rob McKenna is the Attorney General of Washington state.




  • http://www.dougunderground.com/ DOUG.

    I’m too lazy to read the bills. Any idea how child porn web surfers will be tracked down?

  • http://www.dougunderground.com DOUG.

    I’m too lazy to read the bills. Any idea how child porn web surfers will be tracked down?

  • Michael J. Maddux

    While I’m all for cracking down on people who utilize this loophole to view the victimization of children, the accidental click is an issue that needs to be addressed.
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    The AG states that it would be up to the State (or, more realistically, the counties) to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was actual intent to view the kiddie porn. However, there needs to be something in the bill that clarifies at what point someone can be arrested and prosecuted.
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    I’m not trying to insinuate that most law enforcement professionals would be able to distinguish straight away an accident vs. an intentional viewing, but the fact remains that the legal fees associated with exonerating one’s self following an accusation are not small. Just like the folks who used to be charged wtih “obstruction and resisting” whenever they were beat up by a police officer for no good reason, the end result of not having these safeguards is the people who accidentally click are victimized by a system that forces them to shell out their money to be properly defended, and then they never get reimbursed.
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    However, kudos to the bill for closing the loophole!

  • Michael J. Maddux

    While I’m all for cracking down on people who utilize this loophole to view the victimization of children, the accidental click is an issue that needs to be addressed.
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    The AG states that it would be up to the State (or, more realistically, the counties) to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was actual intent to view the kiddie porn. However, there needs to be something in the bill that clarifies at what point someone can be arrested and prosecuted.
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    I’m not trying to insinuate that most law enforcement professionals would be able to distinguish straight away an accident vs. an intentional viewing, but the fact remains that the legal fees associated with exonerating one’s self following an accusation are not small. Just like the folks who used to be charged wtih “obstruction and resisting” whenever they were beat up by a police officer for no good reason, the end result of not having these safeguards is the people who accidentally click are victimized by a system that forces them to shell out their money to be properly defended, and then they never get reimbursed.
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    However, kudos to the bill for closing the loophole!

  • You Can Call Me Books

    At this point there could be image recognition software that could monitor a bit stream and figure out if the face is “underage”.

    Also, even in the “legitimate” sites like YouTube there are many “borderline” vids. Suppose for example, that someone put a home video of a “slumber party” and it happened to have some girls having pillow fights in their “jammies”.

    Is it kiddie porn?

    Sure seems like it. But there it is on YouTube.

    Get my drift?

  • You Can Call Me Books

    At this point there could be image recognition software that could monitor a bit stream and figure out if the face is “underage”.

    Also, even in the “legitimate” sites like YouTube there are many “borderline” vids. Suppose for example, that someone put a home video of a “slumber party” and it happened to have some girls having pillow fights in their “jammies”.

    Is it kiddie porn?

    Sure seems like it. But there it is on YouTube.

    Get my drift?

  • Patrick Nance

    Child pornography is bad. Obviously.

    That said, I’ve never understood why it’s made out to be such a big deal in our dealings with the Internet.

    First of all, if we really hate child porn so much, why don’t we go after child pornographers instead of people who like child ponography? Is that a fight the government is unwilling to undertake because it’s too difficult?

    Second of all, it’s not like child porn shows up everywhere you turn on the Internet. It’s not that difficult to mistakenly land in a risque section of the web but, come on, when’s the last time you actually came across some of things Attorney General McKenna is talking about? You have to know where to look for this kind of stuff and I’m extremely skeptical that smoking the culprits out of one home wouldn’t cause them to set up shop soon after in another.

    Finally, and this really the brunt, anytime I see child pornography mentioned in an Internet-related bill, I can’t help but think of it as a way to get people over the age of 50 to vote for it since, after all, who could possibly vote in favor of child pornography?

  • Patrick Nance

    Child pornography is bad. Obviously.

    That said, I’ve never understood why it’s made out to be such a big deal in our dealings with the Internet.

    First of all, if we really hate child porn so much, why don’t we go after child pornographers instead of people who like child ponography? Is that a fight the government is unwilling to undertake because it’s too difficult?

    Second of all, it’s not like child porn shows up everywhere you turn on the Internet. It’s not that difficult to mistakenly land in a risque section of the web but, come on, when’s the last time you actually came across some of things Attorney General McKenna is talking about? You have to know where to look for this kind of stuff and I’m extremely skeptical that smoking the culprits out of one home wouldn’t cause them to set up shop soon after in another.

    Finally, and this really the brunt, anytime I see child pornography mentioned in an Internet-related bill, I can’t help but think of it as a way to get people over the age of 50 to vote for it since, after all, who could possibly vote in favor of child pornography?

  • Giffy

    But many child pornography traffickers use this same file-sharing technology to trade images of child sexual abuse, profiting from the horrific abuse of kids.

    I don’t really know how many people are profiting off of child porn. Doesn’t seem like the kind of thing where people are typing in their credit cards to view it and I doubt that many advertisers are supporting it. Isn’t it more of a closed network type free sharing sort of thing?

    I also don’t really think this is a demand problem. People who make this shit are doing it for their own ends as much as others. They would do what they do regardless of an ability to share.

    If our bill passes, prosecutors would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a user of child pornography intentionally and repeatedly sought out illegal files

    That sounds nice in theory, but we all know how things go in trials like this. Accusations of child abuse, child porn, etc, are highly emotional and the accused starts at an immediate disadvantage. Especially if say there defense was that they were looking for legal porn of 18 year olds, and found 16 year olds instead. Viewers of pornography are not exactly sympathetic when it comes to juries.

    I could also pretty easily conceive of a very difficult to detect virus that would seek out child porn in order to get people in trouble.

    I would much rather law enforcement go after distributors and creators and not create another crime with a huge opportunity for abuse. Stopping child porn begins with stopping the producers and abusers.

    If the spread of child porn on the web was increase abuse then the incidence of it would be increasing, but instead we have seen a decrease.

  • Giffy

    But many child pornography traffickers use this same file-sharing technology to trade images of child sexual abuse, profiting from the horrific abuse of kids.

    I don’t really know how many people are profiting off of child porn. Doesn’t seem like the kind of thing where people are typing in their credit cards to view it and I doubt that many advertisers are supporting it. Isn’t it more of a closed network type free sharing sort of thing?

    I also don’t really think this is a demand problem. People who make this shit are doing it for their own ends as much as others. They would do what they do regardless of an ability to share.

    If our bill passes, prosecutors would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a user of child pornography intentionally and repeatedly sought out illegal files

    That sounds nice in theory, but we all know how things go in trials like this. Accusations of child abuse, child porn, etc, are highly emotional and the accused starts at an immediate disadvantage. Especially if say there defense was that they were looking for legal porn of 18 year olds, and found 16 year olds instead. Viewers of pornography are not exactly sympathetic when it comes to juries.

    I could also pretty easily conceive of a very difficult to detect virus that would seek out child porn in order to get people in trouble.

    I would much rather law enforcement go after distributors and creators and not create another crime with a huge opportunity for abuse. Stopping child porn begins with stopping the producers and abusers.

    If the spread of child porn on the web was increase abuse then the incidence of it would be increasing, but instead we have seen a decrease.

  • Citing the case of Correlation

    It is clear that the people who molest children are criminals. Doubly so for people who film it. We’ve also chosen to make the sale, possession (and “free hosting”) of such materials illegal, ostensibly to stem demand for its creation. What’s unclear to me is any evidence that watching this material incites any direct harm to anyone (or any more, for example, than watching a “Faces Of Death”-style video.)

    Rob cites a prison study correlating consumption of child pornography with actual molestation. This audience alone would seem to taint the results in many obvious ways, but even if something like this were done properly, all it would prove would be that people who do things often also enjoy watching other people doing those same things. Fervent bank robbers probably disporportionately enjoy watching heist films & videos of robberies, but this correlation doesn’t convince us that watching this material CAUSES others to engage in the activity in high enough numbers to warrant banning its existence, much less watching it. We broadcast footage of successful bank robberies on the nightly news!

    Law-abiding citizens watch videos of people committing all kinds of crimes all the time, either for entertainment, as a cautionary tale, or just to be “grossed out by something on the internet”. Making something taboo may even increase its demand.

    And as for pornography in general, I would imagine that even Rob may have borne witness to an adults-only title that didn’t turn him into a fiend for whatever kink might have been portrayed in its content. Though I can’t point to error-prone studies of my own, it seems rather obvious that people watch these kinds of video because it’s a form of release for something they can’t or wouldn’t do in real life. Yes, some men who watch XXX films DO end up cheating on their wives, but this doesn’t mean that the videos caused it.

    If you want to increase the penalties for adults who harm minors, or for those involved in creating this material, I’m 100% behind you. But viewing a digital image doesn’t directly harm a person, and I’m going to be against laws that criminalize those who do.

  • Citing the case of Correlation v. Causation…

    It is clear that the people who molest children are criminals. Doubly so for people who film it. We’ve also chosen to make the sale, possession (and “free hosting”) of such materials illegal, ostensibly to stem demand for its creation. What’s unclear to me is any evidence that watching this material incites any direct harm to anyone (or any more, for example, than watching a “Faces Of Death”-style video.)

    Rob cites a prison study correlating consumption of child pornography with actual molestation. This audience alone would seem to taint the results in many obvious ways, but even if something like this were done properly, all it would prove would be that people who do things often also enjoy watching other people doing those same things. Fervent bank robbers probably disporportionately enjoy watching heist films & videos of robberies, but this correlation doesn’t convince us that watching this material CAUSES others to engage in the activity in high enough numbers to warrant banning its existence, much less watching it. We broadcast footage of successful bank robberies on the nightly news!

    Law-abiding citizens watch videos of people committing all kinds of crimes all the time, either for entertainment, as a cautionary tale, or just to be “grossed out by something on the internet”. Making something taboo may even increase its demand.

    And as for pornography in general, I would imagine that even Rob may have borne witness to an adults-only title that didn’t turn him into a fiend for whatever kink might have been portrayed in its content. Though I can’t point to error-prone studies of my own, it seems rather obvious that people watch these kinds of video because it’s a form of release for something they can’t or wouldn’t do in real life. Yes, some men who watch XXX films DO end up cheating on their wives, but this doesn’t mean that the videos caused it.

    If you want to increase the penalties for adults who harm minors, or for those involved in creating this material, I’m 100% behind you. But viewing a digital image doesn’t directly harm a person, and I’m going to be against laws that criminalize those who do.

  • Methinks

    The thing is, 9 times out of 10, abuse is committed by relatives, even parents, in real life. The classic and somewhat mythical “Internet Predator” is largely dwarfed by relatives who assume “privileges” with the kids.

  • Methinks

    The thing is, 9 times out of 10, abuse is committed by relatives, even parents, in real life. The classic and somewhat mythical “Internet Predator” is largely dwarfed by relatives who assume “privileges” with the kids.

  • Taboo

    This issue is SUCH a hotbutton because of the intense emotions it brings up, especially from parents imagining it happening to their own children, that we can’t really even have a rational discussion about what it really means. (why do we treat this any more than, say, raping adults, or torturing gays, or even murder?)

    So- since a bill like this is likely to be passed no matter what it says, so long as its title is something like the “Protecting Children From Being Diddled Over The Internet Act Of 2010″, the good news or bad news is that legislators could theoretically shovel in any other internet-related bills they wanted (net-neutrality & higher taxes for telecoms for Dems or the opposite for Repubs), and no one would dare oppose it, for risk of being seen as pro-child porn.

    [So far, it's been the only way anyone can get ANY bill passed these days - Al Franken could never have gotten a sliver of Republican support in mandating accountability from government military contractors if NOT supporting his bill wasn't publicly seen as being "pro-rape".]

  • Taboo

    This issue is SUCH a hotbutton because of the intense emotions it brings up, especially from parents imagining it happening to their own children, that we can’t really even have a rational discussion about what it really means. (why do we treat this any more than, say, raping adults, or torturing gays, or even murder?)

    So- since a bill like this is likely to be passed no matter what it says, so long as its title is something like the “Protecting Children From Being Diddled Over The Internet Act Of 2010″, the good news or bad news is that legislators could theoretically shovel in any other internet-related bills they wanted (net-neutrality & higher taxes for telecoms for Dems or the opposite for Repubs), and no one would dare oppose it, for risk of being seen as pro-child porn.

    [So far, it's been the only way anyone can get ANY bill passed these days - Al Franken could never have gotten a sliver of Republican support in mandating accountability from government military contractors if NOT supporting his bill wasn't publicly seen as being "pro-rape".]

  • Paging Advokat….

    Ineffectual where rampant problem issues are concerned, yet quick to use/exploit less common political issues that strike fear in the general electorate; it’s Rob McKenna in his natural habitat. [See commercials regarding ID theft. Scary, sure. But actually prevalent? (To some degree, I'm truly asking.)] Likewise, McKenna is such a politician, he seems to forget what his job actually is. Why is he trying to sell legislation to the public – especially without a discussion of its legality? [See also the Times Op Ed piece where he gave his, and the GOP’s, thoughts on how to handle the budget crisis. (The AG’s office passes the budget?)] We know he’s eyeing the Governor’s mansion, but…..

    Regarding McKenna’s bogeyman topic du jour: As other comments note, he relies solely on a “study,” which, if his summary is correct, found that a group of people with a particular predilection used the most widely accessible medium for that predilection. Wow. Groundbreaking. [And, note that the population studied was caught and convicted without the use/need of this proposed law.] Stats involving child porn, pedophiles, “predators,” etc. are some of the most widely misrepresented stats around. [See this article for a readable analysis of such: http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/12/sexual-predators-200912 The important question: How does this work in the real world, Rob?

    There is a big reason why legislation like this rarely, if ever, makes it to the books: the Constitution. McKenna should address those implications. This is the type of law that scoops up disproportionate numbers of innocent people, and our legal system was designed to prevent that. [If memory serves, WalMart reported some parents, who had bath pictures of their children developed there, to authorities for potential child pornography using a similar law. (Anyone? Correct? Not?)]

    I have to imagine that more than just criminal defense attorneys questioned this law. And, if posing practical questions torpedoed it, that is very significant. I would hope that people in the AG’s office would thoroughly, and impartially, research the true legality of this legislation, especially if advising others on the Hill. (Or has he recruited Bush’s Justice Dept. lackeys?)

    Paging Advokat? Advokat – what say you?

  • Paging Advokat….

    Ineffectual where rampant problem issues are concerned, yet quick to use/exploit less common political issues that strike fear in the general electorate; it’s Rob McKenna in his natural habitat. [See commercials regarding ID theft. Scary, sure. But actually prevalent? (To some degree, I'm truly asking.)] Likewise, McKenna is such a politician, he seems to forget what his job actually is. Why is he trying to sell legislation to the public – especially without a discussion of its legality? [See also the Times Op Ed piece where he gave his, and the GOP’s, thoughts on how to handle the budget crisis. (The AG’s office passes the budget?)] We know he’s eyeing the Governor’s mansion, but…..

    Regarding McKenna’s bogeyman topic du jour: As other comments note, he relies solely on a “study,” which, if his summary is correct, found that a group of people with a particular predilection used the most widely accessible medium for that predilection. Wow. Groundbreaking. [And, note that the population studied was caught and convicted without the use/need of this proposed law.] Stats involving child porn, pedophiles, “predators,” etc. are some of the most widely misrepresented stats around. [See this article for a readable analysis of such: http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/12/sexual-predators-200912 The important question: How does this work in the real world, Rob?

    There is a big reason why legislation like this rarely, if ever, makes it to the books: the Constitution. McKenna should address those implications. This is the type of law that scoops up disproportionate numbers of innocent people, and our legal system was designed to prevent that. [If memory serves, WalMart reported some parents, who had bath pictures of their children developed there, to authorities for potential child pornography using a similar law. (Anyone? Correct? Not?)]

    I have to imagine that more than just criminal defense attorneys questioned this law. And, if posing practical questions torpedoed it, that is very significant. I would hope that people in the AG’s office would thoroughly, and impartially, research the true legality of this legislation, especially if advising others on the Hill. (Or has he recruited Bush’s Justice Dept. lackeys?)

    Paging Advokat? Advokat – what say you?

  • Josh Feit

    Today’s/Tomorow’s NYT—more debates about child pornography:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/us/03offender.html?hp

  • Josh Feit

    Today’s/Tomorow’s NYT—more debates about child pornography:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/us/03offender.html?hp

  • Methinks

    Guys…there’s some kiddie porn on the Google home page!

    Look:

    http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=nw

  • Methinks

    Guys…there’s some kiddie porn on the Google home page!

    Look:

    http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=nw

  • Nemo

    Beware of Laws like this–they can be used for evil as well as good. This is what Pete Townsend (The Who), was arrested for in England. He was legimately researching child abuse issues, and was not viewing those sites with any purient intentions.

    He never has a history or record of being a pedophile. Since he was not an academic or social scientist, he was presumed guilty, he was convicted.

    Go after the sites that host those servers, McKenna, of is that too hard?

  • Nemo

    Beware of Laws like this–they can be used for evil as well as good. This is what Pete Townsend (The Who), was arrested for in England. He was legimately researching child abuse issues, and was not viewing those sites with any purient intentions.

    He never has a history or record of being a pedophile. Since he was not an academic or social scientist, he was presumed guilty, he was convicted.

    Go after the sites that host those servers, McKenna, of is that too hard?

  • Nemo

    “If you want to increase the penalties for adults who harm minors, or for those involved in creating this material, I’m 100% behind you. But viewing a digital image doesn’t directly harm a person, and I’m going to be against laws that criminalize those who do.”

    Agreed. This is a blunt instrument approach that does nothing to stop or address the problem. Thought Police and the Surveilence State can combine to issue a “minority report” type of persecution for thoughts that have no evidence of actions.

  • Nemo

    “If you want to increase the penalties for adults who harm minors, or for those involved in creating this material, I’m 100% behind you. But viewing a digital image doesn’t directly harm a person, and I’m going to be against laws that criminalize those who do.”

    Agreed. This is a blunt instrument approach that does nothing to stop or address the problem. Thought Police and the Surveilence State can combine to issue a “minority report” type of persecution for thoughts that have no evidence of actions.

  • DannyK

    More evidence the state needs a Democratic A.G. before this joker does some real damage.

  • DannyK

    More evidence the state needs a Democratic A.G. before this joker does some real damage.

  • http://4chan.org tyciol

    So basically they're declaring war on 4chan then?

  • http://4chan.org tyciol

    Giffy, you are a voice of sensibility.

  • http://4chan.org tyciol

    This is a very valid observation, we seem to have double standards about criminalizing evidence of crimes on the basis of instigating demand. This thought-criminalization justification applies here but not to others, even more heinous ones like murder.

  • http://4chan.org tyciol

    I didn't know about this, sounds very scary to me. As unjust as it is to persecute thoughtcriminals, that even people not thinking the condemned thoughts get caught in the blast should be illuminating for those with their eyes open for it.

  • http://4chan.org tyciol

    One thing I'm wondering: since it's illegal to do this, why is it we need additional penalties for creating the material? The way I figure, so much child abuse/rape goes undetected or the offenders are unable to be prosecuted for lack of evidence…

    So since creating this material gives police lots of evidence to convict people, isn't it a good thing? It's sort of like, if a guy robs a store and shoots the clerk and films it, it makes the police's job a heck of a lot easier and saves the system money.

  • jesuswasahomo

    this is fake. child porn is a myth. when was the last time you had a popup of a 4 yr old being molested. NEVER. This is just another way that the government can falsely prosecute and extort money from hard working honest citizens. this is a fucking joke.

  • Freemaninjc

    Yes, we cant have restriction because “jesuswasahomo” life would be meaningless without gay porn.