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New City Hall Rules: A Recipe For Closed Government?

As Chris noted in PubliCalendar earlier today, the city council’s open government committee will be meeting tonight to talk about proposed changes to rules governing how citizens interact with the council. Among other things, the committee has proposed establishing a new public engagement plan for the council; holding more city council meetings outside City Hall; and having an attorney present during executive sessions.

They’ll also adopt rules governing council members’ use of social media such as Facebook and Twitter.

Seattle’s hard-line, old-school neighborhood groups, predictably, are up in arms about the proposals, which they argue will actually reduce the council’s accessibility to the public.

In an op/ed for the Ballard News Tribune, Chris Leman and Jeannie Hale of the Seattle Community Council Federation warned that the new rules would be “a setback for open government”; that they would allow the council to meet outside City Hall or “even outside Seattle”; that they would no longer require council members to attend their committees or provide “an excuse” when they don’t; that committees would no longer need a quorum, or any council members at all, present to pass legislation to full council; and that changes to council rules would no longer require approval by a council committee.

They also accuse the city council of attempting to bypass public-disclosure laws by posting on social-networking sites like Facebook and Twitter.

That laundry list of charges is, quite simply, wrong: None of the items being proposed re: public meetings would change existing law. City Council committees can already meet outside council chambers (something council member Sally Clark started doing several years ago in an effort to increase her committee’s presence in city neighborhoods); council members have never been required to attend committees they belong to (under the council’s rules, anyone can attend any committee, and no “excuse” is required of council members who miss a meeting; committees have never required a quorum to vote (I remember a committee meeting entirely presided over by Jean Godden, who made a motion, seconded it, and voted it through). Council rules changes have previously required a committee vote, but, in the words of council president Richard Conlin, “we’ve realized that that’s just not necessary.”

As for the charges that city officials are attempting to circumvent public-disclosure law by posting on Facebook and Twitter: At a meeting of the Seattle Ethics and Elections Commission last week, Leman argued that Facebook and Twitter  “are being used, unfortunately, to violate open meetings laws and open records laws” because members of the public are required to become “friends” or “fans” of council members “to get official city information. … It really almost puts you on record as being a supporter of the candidate or the elected official.”

Leman added: “You cannot participate in Facebook or Twitter without giving your age, your phone number, and your address, which is a big question of privacy.” He also argued that Facebook and other social media allow elected officials to circumvent public disclosure, because keeping paper trails is difficult.

Editorializing here: Leman seems to misunderstand how Facebook and Twitter work. With Internet access now near-universal, it could be argued that Facebook and Twitter are actually more accessible than city records kept on paper or in city employees’ computers (which you have to file a records request to get). Also,  neither Facebook nor Twitter ask for detailed information—signing up for Facebook only requires a first and last name (which can be fake), an email address (which must be real, but isn’t public) and gender and birthdate (which can be fake).

Twitter requires even less. Most council members’ pages are public to Facebook users; you can just go and read them, without becoming a friend or a supporter. Same thing with Twitter. So it’s hardly the Big Brother surveillance system Leman’s comments imply.

Ultimately, Facebook and Twitter are just the latest iteration of email, and faxes before that, and voice mails, telegrams, and posted mail before that. All are fundamentally neutral. Activists like Leman (who did not return a call for comment) may protest at each new technology, but ultimately, technology has improved access to information, not diminished it.

The council’s open government committee will take up the issue of public input and social media at its meeting tonight in council chambers, 600 Fourth Ave., starting at 5:30 pm.




  • YimBy

    Anything Jeannie are Chris are against I can guarentee I am for. There both loony toons!

  • YimBy

    Anything Jeannie are Chris are against I can guarentee I am for. There both loony toons!

  • palm centro

    Agreed re social networking. But Facebook, as most users use it, is painfully unanonymous. I just read another study today about how a high % of users still ignore privacy settings and loose too much personal info. Still an indivdual user’s fault for being oblivious, but I give Leman the slightest benefit of the doubt for common-usage concerns.

  • palm centro

    Agreed re social networking. But Facebook, as most users use it, is painfully unanonymous. I just read another study today about how a high % of users still ignore privacy settings and loose too much personal info. Still an indivdual user’s fault for being oblivious, but I give Leman the slightest benefit of the doubt for common-usage concerns.

  • Allison Roundtree

    Once in a while it is crucial to point out that Chris Leyman isn’t just a kook, he is a dangerous kook, having commmitted assault against at least one city employee. How the guy manages to get any credibility for ANYTHING is beyond my comprehension, given his record long before the assault.

    Jeanne Hale has been working her darnest to prevent sick and dying kids from getting care at Children’s Hospital — while she enjoys living a comfortable life in her multi-million-dollar home in Laurelhurst. Guess the millions left her in her deceased husband’s insurance policy can’t silence the noise of an ambulance and a crying child.

    Like many, I often appreciate the work of citizen activists, but this isn’t about activism, this is about a couple of whack jobs who want to prevent any progress whatsoever.

  • ivan

    Leman is just batshit crazy. Doesn’t he realize that he could use anything Council members said on Facebook *against* them, if he was so inclined? I mean, they’re putting themselves *out* there — what in HELL is his problem with that? They are providing stuff he couldn’t get anywhere else.

    But you’re not poff the hook, either, Erica, when you use Leman and Hale as typical examples of “old-line, old-school” neighborhood groups. Those two aren’t in the least bit typical. That’s bogus and you know it.

  • ivan

    “OFF the hook!” Damn fat fingers.

  • ivan

    Leman is just batshit crazy. Doesn’t he realize that he could use anything Council members said on Facebook *against* them, if he was so inclined? I mean, they’re putting themselves *out* there — what in HELL is his problem with that? They are providing stuff he couldn’t get anywhere else.

    But you’re not poff the hook, either, Erica, when you use Leman and Hale as typical examples of “old-line, old-school” neighborhood groups. Those two aren’t in the least bit typical. That’s bogus and you know it.

  • ivan

    “OFF the hook!” Damn fat fingers.

  • http://seattletransitblog.com/ Martin H. Duke

    Ivan @4,

    Leman and Hale are the ones who wrote the column; who else is she supposed to use?

  • http://seattletransitblog.com Martin H. Duke

    Ivan @4,

    Leman and Hale are the ones who wrote the column; who else is she supposed to use?

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr.Baker

    The problem with these mediums is that they are limited to those that have technology on the other end, experience shifting time and ubiquitous communication.

    The council would have to Facebook Friend the public reconds office, and the tweets collected and stored. They would have to be available to the general public, not just social network consumers. The records can, and will have to be archived. No big deal.

    As technology reaches into our private lives with a new twist we are presented with the same old questions: who has access, and what communication is private for public officials.

    This is not nearly as hard as they are making it.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr.Baker

    The problem with these mediums is that they are limited to those that have technology on the other end, experience shifting time and ubiquitous communication.

    The council would have to Facebook Friend the public reconds office, and the tweets collected and stored. They would have to be available to the general public, not just social network consumers. The records can, and will have to be archived. No big deal.

    As technology reaches into our private lives with a new twist we are presented with the same old questions: who has access, and what communication is private for public officials.

    This is not nearly as hard as they are making it.

  • Toby

    #3: The Children’s Hospital land use fight is NOT about kids v. rich people. It is about a huge institution trying to buy its way into an overly large expansion in the wrong place. Inconsistent with City plans, violating SEPA, etc.

    As for the merits of the City Council’s process, just because the proposal doesn’t make things worse (assuming all of the points are accurate–I have no idea since I haven’t reviewed the proposal), doesn’t mean the law shouldn’t be improved. E.g., “Council rules changes have previously required a committee vote, but, in the words of council president Richard Conlin, “we’ve realized that that’s just not necessary.””

    Well, why the heck not? What’s the point of having committees if they do not consider, and amend as appropriate, proposed legislation? It’s bad enough that we have ten mayors, but now we have one committee of the whole for all council actions? Doesn’t make sense to me.

  • Toby

    #3: The Children’s Hospital land use fight is NOT about kids v. rich people. It is about a huge institution trying to buy its way into an overly large expansion in the wrong place. Inconsistent with City plans, violating SEPA, etc.

    As for the merits of the City Council’s process, just because the proposal doesn’t make things worse (assuming all of the points are accurate–I have no idea since I haven’t reviewed the proposal), doesn’t mean the law shouldn’t be improved. E.g., “Council rules changes have previously required a committee vote, but, in the words of council president Richard Conlin, “we’ve realized that that’s just not necessary.””

    Well, why the heck not? What’s the point of having committees if they do not consider, and amend as appropriate, proposed legislation? It’s bad enough that we have ten mayors, but now we have one committee of the whole for all council actions? Doesn’t make sense to me.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr.Baker

    Like this today:

    1.  Council Bill 116642 PASSED (9 – 0)                                          
    Related to land use and zoning; amending Section 23.40.006 of the Seattle Municipal Code, to allow issuance of a permit for demolition of a residential use in a Single Family zone without first establishing a new use for

    go ahead and crush those vacant houses, you’ll build giant cubes someday.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr.Baker

    Like this today:

    1.  Council Bill 116642 PASSED (9 – 0)                                          
    Related to land use and zoning; amending Section 23.40.006 of the Seattle Municipal Code, to allow issuance of a permit for demolition of a residential use in a Single Family zone without first establishing a new use for

    go ahead and crush those vacant houses, you’ll build giant cubes someday.

  • lol

    lol, Vulcan runs the city government. Nice work folks!

  • lol

    lol, Vulcan runs the city government. Nice work folks!

  • 40-year Seattleite

    Toby @8, Children’s Hospital has been at its current site on Sand Point Way since 1953. I suspect the complainers in Laurelhurst (only a minority of that fine community, so I’m told) moved into the neighborhood well after the hospital was established there. If they didn’t want to live near a hospital, why were they so stupid as to buy in that neighborhood? THEY are the ones in the wrong place.

  • 40-year Seattleite

    Toby @8, Children’s Hospital has been at its current site on Sand Point Way since 1953. I suspect the complainers in Laurelhurst (only a minority of that fine community, so I’m told) moved into the neighborhood well after the hospital was established there. If they didn’t want to live near a hospital, why were they so stupid as to buy in that neighborhood? THEY are the ones in the wrong place.

  • RedHerring

    @ 3. Allison Roundtree

    Please, stop the ad hominem attacks. Weak sauce.

    @ 11. 40-year Seattleite

    Wow. I hope you are being facetious.
    I blame the Indians for their problems.
    If they weren’t on the land that we wanted, we
    wouldn’t have to kill them all.

    Two thoughts:
    1. Huge generational/accessibility gap with technology
    especially with older folks and poorer folks.
    I was at the 2nd town hall meeting and Kip Tokuda
    kept on saying “interneting” for “emailing”.

    2. I do not agree with Chris Leman, but when you
    try to silence the “kooks”, who will be next
    to be silenced?

  • RedHerring

    @ 3. Allison Roundtree

    Please, stop the ad hominem attacks. Weak sauce.

    @ 11. 40-year Seattleite

    Wow. I hope you are being facetious.
    I blame the Indians for their problems.
    If they weren’t on the land that we wanted, we
    wouldn’t have to kill them all.

    Two thoughts:
    1. Huge generational/accessibility gap with technology
    especially with older folks and poorer folks.
    I was at the 2nd town hall meeting and Kip Tokuda
    kept on saying “interneting” for “emailing”.

    2. I do not agree with Chris Leman, but when you
    try to silence the “kooks”, who will be next
    to be silenced?

  • http://motleytools.com/blog Douglas Tooley

    Though there are long established groups calling themselves neighborhood groups it is flat out wrong to paint them with a single brush.

    A neighborhood group is retail government theoretically open to all in the geographic area – an attack on ‘neighborhood’ folks is harrassment of our Constitutional Government and the individual citizens who own it.

    Personally, I’ve never been able to establish a rapport with Leman, though he does make good points from time to time. He may be losing a bit of his usual cutting edge relevance as he ages, but these are all topics very worthy of discussion.

    One long standing problem in this regard is councilmembers using non-city email for constituent communications. Friending the public records office should be a requirement, fwiw.

    Lastly, open meeting rules and executive session are likely being abused in this State, but it needs more research. Like, for example, of the sort an investigative journalist would do….

  • http://motleytools.com/blog Douglas Tooley

    Though there are long established groups calling themselves neighborhood groups it is flat out wrong to paint them with a single brush.

    A neighborhood group is retail government theoretically open to all in the geographic area – an attack on ‘neighborhood’ folks is harrassment of our Constitutional Government and the individual citizens who own it.

    Personally, I’ve never been able to establish a rapport with Leman, though he does make good points from time to time. He may be losing a bit of his usual cutting edge relevance as he ages, but these are all topics very worthy of discussion.

    One long standing problem in this regard is councilmembers using non-city email for constituent communications. Friending the public records office should be a requirement, fwiw.

    Lastly, open meeting rules and executive session are likely being abused in this State, but it needs more research. Like, for example, of the sort an investigative journalist would do….

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  • http://www.momrecipebook.com DEEPAK KUMAR PATEL

    wow this Publicola » Blog Archive » New City Hall Rules: A Recipe For Closed Government? is awsome.
    Checkout this one also momrecipebook.com

  • Allison Roundtree

    Once in a while it is crucial to point out that Chris Leyman isn't just a kook, he is a dangerous kook, having commmitted assault against at least one city employee. How the guy manages to get any credibility for ANYTHING is beyond my comprehension, given his record long before the assault.

    Jeanne Hale has been working her darnest to prevent sick and dying kids from getting care at Children's Hospital — while she enjoys living a comfortable life in her multi-million-dollar home in Laurelhurst. Guess the millions left her in her deceased husband's insurance policy can't silence the noise of an ambulance and a crying child.

    Like many, I often appreciate the work of citizen activists, but this isn't about activism, this is about a couple of whack jobs who want to prevent any progress whatsoever.