County Council Spokesman on Constantine: "No Complainant. No Complaint."

Given the facts you now have, and the highly prejudicial nature of the story, it seems incredibly irresponsible for Publicola to have reported this in the first place don’t you think?

Given the facts you now have, and the highly prejudicial nature of the story, it seems incredibly irresponsible for Publicola to have reported this in the first place don’t you think?

Abe and Bristow are in full out denial mode…I would too considering their jobs are on the line if Susan were to win.

Also, this has the be the first article written about Constantine without Sandeep’s remarks…Good work!

Meinert @ 1,

Nope, I don’t Dave. We have been covering the K.C. exec’s race closely for months, chasing down stories on both Hutchison and Constnatine. We would have been derelict to ignore a story that was buzzing up in our comments and on TV news.

Our reporting, so far, seems to have sussed out the facts more thoroughly than any other source, including KIRO’s report.

I’m glad about that.

Meinert @ 1,

Nope, I don’t Dave. We have been covering the K.C. exec’s race closely for months, chasing down stories on both Hutchison and Constnatine. We would have been derelict to ignore a story that was buzzing up in our comments and on TV news.

Our reporting, so far, seems to have sussed out the facts more thoroughly than any other source, including KIRO’s report.

I’m glad about that.

I wonder if all the Right wingers are going to worry now about the massive defamation (some of it rather egregious) with intent to harm they’ve tossed at Dow in the past 24 hours online now?

I wonder if they’ll even apologize.

Dow being a lawyer could file some easy kill lawsuits over this and snap up some tidy default judgments.

I wonder if all the Right wingers are going to worry now about the massive defamation (some of it rather egregious) with intent to harm they’ve tossed at Dow in the past 24 hours online now?

I wonder if they’ll even apologize.

Dow being a lawyer could file some easy kill lawsuits over this and snap up some tidy default judgments.

The woman herself can’t file an order; a judge or commissioner has to enter an order. And for an order to be entered by a judge, there’d have to be a court case. To look at that, you’d need to know the parties’ names, of course. What you’d get is everything in the case up to the order, because it sounds like the order would forbid others from seeing the material from the date of the order on. Anything released prior to the order wouldn’t be affected, obviously. This sounds very circular and redolent of last-gasp BS.

As a cynical woman, I fully expect every guy who has any political or business power whatsoever to have said or done something improper to some adjacent woman. It’s not moral but it happens and if we’re going to throw every one of these guys under the bus, we’ll simply have no guys in semi-responsible positions. As long as they don’t claim they were walking the Appalachian Trail but instead use taxpayer money to fly to Argentina, I don’t care. Nor do I care if it’s a woman doing it (and they do; as a legal assistant I’ve worked on those type of suits against woman harassers).

On Tuesday–or Wednesday–all this will dissolve.

The woman herself can’t file an order; a judge or commissioner has to enter an order. And for an order to be entered by a judge, there’d have to be a court case. To look at that, you’d need to know the parties’ names, of course. What you’d get is everything in the case up to the order, because it sounds like the order would forbid others from seeing the material from the date of the order on. Anything released prior to the order wouldn’t be affected, obviously. This sounds very circular and redolent of last-gasp BS.

As a cynical woman, I fully expect every guy who has any political or business power whatsoever to have said or done something improper to some adjacent woman. It’s not moral but it happens and if we’re going to throw every one of these guys under the bus, we’ll simply have no guys in semi-responsible positions. As long as they don’t claim they were walking the Appalachian Trail but instead use taxpayer money to fly to Argentina, I don’t care. Nor do I care if it’s a woman doing it (and they do; as a legal assistant I’ve worked on those type of suits against woman harassers).

On Tuesday–or Wednesday–all this will dissolve.

@2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

@2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

@3 – Feit – Hutch campaign operative posting over and over again in your comments is “buzzing”? Seems like a stretch. And the “everyone else was doing it” argument, I think, was dismissed by thoughtful people some time ago. But hey, three cheers for making a good man look really bad based on mostly right wing rumor mongering and doing that before you had all the facts, cause, well, you did it “thoroughly”.

@3 – Feit – Hutch campaign operative posting over and over again in your comments is “buzzing”? Seems like a stretch. And the “everyone else was doing it” argument, I think, was dismissed by thoughtful people some time ago. But hey, three cheers for making a good man look really bad based on mostly right wing rumor mongering and doing that before you had all the facts, cause, well, you did it “thoroughly”.

So far, I think you guys are doing a pretty good job on this one … clearly, SP thinks it’s a story … and it IS a story … it’s just not clear what it’s a story ABOUT.

So far, I think you guys are doing a pretty good job on this one … clearly, SP thinks it’s a story … and it IS a story … it’s just not clear what it’s a story ABOUT.

OMC it’s ECB is a little bastard.

Considering that everyone who would be in the know (the alleged victim, through her attorney, Mr. Constantine, and now the actual Council staff) says nothing happened, I am inclined to believe them. I’m sure Dow could be a total pimp if he wanted, but he has ambition, combined with a genuine caring of his community and County. He’s not running because some Democrats pushed him to, he’s running because he wants to help make this a better place to live, and to protect the most important programs during massive budget cuts.

Why is Susan running? Because the GOP needed a pretty face without any major past controversy. As we all know, the GOP does not require experience.

The fact that the Hutch team drummed this up shows that they are desperate. Once the people of King County realized that Susan Hutchison required a book published by the WPC to be “smart”, they realized that she really is an empty suit, a puppet being controlled by the Washington State GOP, a frighteningly conservative brand of Republican.

Shame on the Hutchison crew. And way to go Publicola for digging up more details, and making clear the record on this.

OMC it’s ECB is a little bastard.

Considering that everyone who would be in the know (the alleged victim, through her attorney, Mr. Constantine, and now the actual Council staff) says nothing happened, I am inclined to believe them. I’m sure Dow could be a total pimp if he wanted, but he has ambition, combined with a genuine caring of his community and County. He’s not running because some Democrats pushed him to, he’s running because he wants to help make this a better place to live, and to protect the most important programs during massive budget cuts.

Why is Susan running? Because the GOP needed a pretty face without any major past controversy. As we all know, the GOP does not require experience.

The fact that the Hutch team drummed this up shows that they are desperate. Once the people of King County realized that Susan Hutchison required a book published by the WPC to be “smart”, they realized that she really is an empty suit, a puppet being controlled by the Washington State GOP, a frighteningly conservative brand of Republican.

Shame on the Hutchison crew. And way to go Publicola for digging up more details, and making clear the record on this.

It appears that I was right to be skeptical. In a high stakes political campaign, expect accusations to fly, whether or not they are true. Did Jordan McCarran lie about having “heavily redacted documents”, or is there insufficient evidence to make such a conclusion?

It appears that I was right to be skeptical. In a high stakes political campaign, expect accusations to fly, whether or not they are true. Did Jordan McCarran lie about having “heavily redacted documents”, or is there insufficient evidence to make such a conclusion?

First, I think that Publicola acted very responsibily and professionally in its coverage of the story. It has been a voice of reason in the midst of a cacophony of shrill and uncivil rumor-mongering. Second, while I am a strong defender of freedom of speech (for bloggers and others) things got pretty crazy this morning, and I think Josh was right to ask people to cool it. Third, however, I think everyone would do well to keep in mind that the legal and constitutional standard for libel of public officials and public figures is very different than the standard for ordinary libel. Under the rule of “actual malice,” public figures like Hutchison and Constantine have a very high burden to meet. Some of the stuff being said earlier today seemed to be getting close — too close — to that higher standard! Still, I am bothered by the fact that people on all sides of the political fence throw around the charge of defamation of public figures all too easily, thereby trying scare speakers into being quiet. As someone relatively new to this blogging, it seems to me that the real danger here is usually defamation of people who aren’t public figures. There are some nasty bloggers on both the left and the right. People I know and respect who are not public officials or public figures have been subjected to mean and arguably libellous attacks. And I’m sure I’m not the only one who has experienced this. So finally therefore I hope Publicola will be even-handed and circumspect in how it goes about establishing standards of civil discourse.

First, I think that Publicola acted very responsibily and professionally in its coverage of the story. It has been a voice of reason in the midst of a cacophony of shrill and uncivil rumor-mongering. Second, while I am a strong defender of freedom of speech (for bloggers and others) things got pretty crazy this morning, and I think Josh was right to ask people to cool it. Third, however, I think everyone would do well to keep in mind that the legal and constitutional standard for libel of public officials and public figures is very different than the standard for ordinary libel. Under the rule of “actual malice,” public figures like Hutchison and Constantine have a very high burden to meet. Some of the stuff being said earlier today seemed to be getting close — too close — to that higher standard! Still, I am bothered by the fact that people on all sides of the political fence throw around the charge of defamation of public figures all too easily, thereby trying scare speakers into being quiet. As someone relatively new to this blogging, it seems to me that the real danger here is usually defamation of people who aren’t public figures. There are some nasty bloggers on both the left and the right. People I know and respect who are not public officials or public figures have been subjected to mean and arguably libellous attacks. And I’m sure I’m not the only one who has experienced this. So finally therefore I hope Publicola will be even-handed and circumspect in how it goes about establishing standards of civil discourse.

I miss the anti-car pro bicyclist stories.

I miss the anti-car pro bicyclist stories.

I agree with 8.

Right now there is a game of Calculatus Eliminatus being played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBokGmwXWfs&feature=youtube_gdata

I agree with 8.

Right now there is a game of Calculatus Eliminatus being played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBokGmwXWfs&feature=youtube_gdata

Erica @ 6

Thanks for the government lesson. However, since the executive proposes the budget, next year I would imagine the Council and central staff will become much much smaller. I can’t imagine they will need to keep communications person over policy analysts…Sure Bristow might keep his job, but Abe certainly will be a victim of the budget cuts.

Erica @ 6

Thanks for the government lesson. However, since the executive proposes the budget, next year I would imagine the Council and central staff will become much much smaller. I can’t imagine they will need to keep communications person over policy analysts…Sure Bristow might keep his job, but Abe certainly will be a victim of the budget cuts.

Publicola has done a better job than anyone else at getting to the truth of this story, which is really a nonstory, and all credit is due.

But there’s always a nit to pick. Josh says:

Ervin declined to comment to PubliCola.

Given the hubbub on talk radio (KIRO TV ran a story on it last night as well), Ervin should publish what he’s got and bring clarity to this story. Or nonstory.

The Times won’t publish a damn thing if they don’t want to, and they sure as hell won’t comment on Publicola’s say-so or anybody else’s. They set certain internal standards there, and if reporting whatever Ervin has breaches those standards, they will clam up and take the heat for it.

It might be right, it might be wrong, it might be justified or not. It’s just their institutional culture. It doesn’t even have anything to do with their batshit publisher.

The Times decided it wasn’t going to name Vili Fulaau, who was boinking his middle school teacher, Mary Kay LeTourneau, and now is married to her, even though everybody else had his name, and had reported it. There was a lot of controversy about this inside the newsroom, but they made a decision, stood by it, and took the heat for it.

It’s not always about withholding information, either. When Mt. St. Helens blew, the Times published a photo of a kid’s mangled body in the back of a pickup truck, and you should have heard the cries of protest and the demands for apology. If memory serves, no apology was forthcoming. They had made their decision, and they stuck with it.

I’m not going all Ted Van Dyk and passing any judgment on these policies. This is just to lend some context to why the Times might not ever comply with your wishes. Or they might, who the hell knows?

Publicola has done a better job than anyone else at getting to the truth of this story, which is really a nonstory, and all credit is due.

But there’s always a nit to pick. Josh says:

Ervin declined to comment to PubliCola.

Given the hubbub on talk radio (KIRO TV ran a story on it last night as well), Ervin should publish what he’s got and bring clarity to this story. Or nonstory.

The Times won’t publish a damn thing if they don’t want to, and they sure as hell won’t comment on Publicola’s say-so or anybody else’s. They set certain internal standards there, and if reporting whatever Ervin has breaches those standards, they will clam up and take the heat for it.

It might be right, it might be wrong, it might be justified or not. It’s just their institutional culture. It doesn’t even have anything to do with their batshit publisher.

The Times decided it wasn’t going to name Vili Fulaau, who was boinking his middle school teacher, Mary Kay LeTourneau, and now is married to her, even though everybody else had his name, and had reported it. There was a lot of controversy about this inside the newsroom, but they made a decision, stood by it, and took the heat for it.

It’s not always about withholding information, either. When Mt. St. Helens blew, the Times published a photo of a kid’s mangled body in the back of a pickup truck, and you should have heard the cries of protest and the demands for apology. If memory serves, no apology was forthcoming. They had made their decision, and they stuck with it.

I’m not going all Ted Van Dyk and passing any judgment on these policies. This is just to lend some context to why the Times might not ever comply with your wishes. Or they might, who the hell knows?

An animal is always most vicious when its cornered.

These latest “allegations” just show the desperation of Hutchison’s campaign.

The sad reality is that Hutchison made specious allegations against KIRO about sexual harassment after she was busted on a vacation after calling in sick with a bleeding hemorrhoid (gross, I know, but true) and being demoted for performance-related issues because her ratings were in the toilet.

This is not a woman who exhibits the kind of leadership county employees need, especially when they will certainly be asked to make wage and benefit concessions related to budget constraints.

Thankfully, she will likely lose the election and Dow will be able to efficiently and credibly negotiate with the unions.

An animal is always most vicious when its cornered.

These latest “allegations” just show the desperation of Hutchison’s campaign.

The sad reality is that Hutchison made specious allegations against KIRO about sexual harassment after she was busted on a vacation after calling in sick with a bleeding hemorrhoid (gross, I know, but true) and being demoted for performance-related issues because her ratings were in the toilet.

This is not a woman who exhibits the kind of leadership county employees need, especially when they will certainly be asked to make wage and benefit concessions related to budget constraints.

Thankfully, she will likely lose the election and Dow will be able to efficiently and credibly negotiate with the unions.

@OMG it’s ECB

No, Abe’s and Bristow’s jobs would not be in danger under Hutchison as they would not be part of the Executive branch.

Duhhh….

@OMG it’s ECB

No, Abe’s and Bristow’s jobs would not be in danger under Hutchison as they would not be part of the Executive branch.

Duhhh….

Isn’t there a restraining order that is supposed to keep the county from disclosing any information related to this matter?

In the KIRO clip you link to, Dow wouldn’t discuss particulars, ostensibly because of the TRO…So, if that’s the case, did Bristow and Abe talk to you in violation of the gag order?

Is Bristow the administrator involved in the woman’s case? Otherwise, how would he have seen the document(s)? And what business does Abe have seeing them? He’s the PR guy, not the PIO!

Don’t mean to poke holes in your story here…

Isn’t there a restraining order that is supposed to keep the county from disclosing any information related to this matter?

In the KIRO clip you link to, Dow wouldn’t discuss particulars, ostensibly because of the TRO…So, if that’s the case, did Bristow and Abe talk to you in violation of the gag order?

Is Bristow the administrator involved in the woman’s case? Otherwise, how would he have seen the document(s)? And what business does Abe have seeing them? He’s the PR guy, not the PIO!

Don’t mean to poke holes in your story here…

I miss stories…about real things. Come on Publicola, give me a reason to keep reading.

I miss stories…about real things. Come on Publicola, give me a reason to keep reading.

@19: Patience, patience. Wednesday will come.

@19: Patience, patience. Wednesday will come.

I’m so confused here, how are these 2 guys commenting with so much expertise on these documents? How were they able to see them and have access? These documents have been requested by every news organization in the County with no luck, but 2 hacks with nothing to do with the case are out commenting on blogs? Something stinks here.

And if they are so damn adamant that it is nothing then what is all the hub bub?
Release the goods already!

Why were the documents sealed for everyone but Dem Council Hacks? Why can’t the GOP council Hacks have a look too? Let’s be fair here.

And can’t the lefties on here at least admit that this information should be out in the open before the election? I mean you are always repeating the openess and transperency line over and over. Let’s put your money where your mouths are?

Just sayin.

I’m so confused here, how are these 2 guys commenting with so much expertise on these documents? How were they able to see them and have access? These documents have been requested by every news organization in the County with no luck, but 2 hacks with nothing to do with the case are out commenting on blogs? Something stinks here.

And if they are so damn adamant that it is nothing then what is all the hub bub?
Release the goods already!

Why were the documents sealed for everyone but Dem Council Hacks? Why can’t the GOP council Hacks have a look too? Let’s be fair here.

And can’t the lefties on here at least admit that this information should be out in the open before the election? I mean you are always repeating the openess and transperency line over and over. Let’s put your money where your mouths are?

Just sayin.

@2,

Sorry to disappoint, but of course we talked to Constantine’s campaign about this. It would have been bad reporting if we hadn’t.

Please click on the link to Erica’s original story where you’ll find a response from Constantine’s spokesman Sandeep Kaushik:
http://publicola.net/?p=17455

Moreover, Constantine’s campaign spokesman, Sandeep Kaushik, calls the Sound Politics blogger’s claims “false and malicious,” and says there’s no truth to the allegation that “Jane Doe” filed a sexual harassment complaint against Constantine. He adds, “Susan Hutchison is becoming increasingly desperate because she knows she’s losing this race. …[Griswold] doesn’t know what he’s talking about and he’s not a credible source.”

We also quoted Hutchison’s campaign spokesperson Jordan McCarran in that story. He told us, “We are not involved.”

Kaushik, as we’ve noted before, co-founded PubliCola with me in January. He has no editorial role at PubliCola.

@18,

Bristow is familiar with the notes because he’s the chief of staff at council and oversaw fulfilling Ervin’s public records request. He told me the policy of what is redacted and what is not. Abe, the communications director, was present during my interview with Bristow.

@2,

Sorry to disappoint, but of course we talked to Constantine’s campaign about this. It would have been bad reporting if we hadn’t.

Please click on the link to Erica’s original story where you’ll find a response from Constantine’s spokesman Sandeep Kaushik:
http://publicola.net/?p=17455

Moreover, Constantine’s campaign spokesman, Sandeep Kaushik, calls the Sound Politics blogger’s claims “false and malicious,” and says there’s no truth to the allegation that “Jane Doe” filed a sexual harassment complaint against Constantine. He adds, “Susan Hutchison is becoming increasingly desperate because she knows she’s losing this race. …[Griswold] doesn’t know what he’s talking about and he’s not a credible source.”

We also quoted Hutchison’s campaign spokesperson Jordan McCarran in that story. He told us, “We are not involved.”

Kaushik, as we’ve noted before, co-founded PubliCola with me in January. He has no editorial role at PubliCola.

@18,

Bristow is familiar with the notes because he’s the chief of staff at council and oversaw fulfilling Ervin’s public records request. He told me the policy of what is redacted and what is not. Abe, the communications director, was present during my interview with Bristow.

Meinert @7,

We made the right decision to cover this Dave. Consider: The Seattle Times is involved in a legal tussle in King County Court over files about the lead candidate for County Executive.

Meinert @7,

We made the right decision to cover this Dave. Consider: The Seattle Times is involved in a legal tussle in King County Court over files about the lead candidate for County Executive.

It’s true there’s no sexual harassment claim filed, but there are “interviewer notes” in a personnel file that should be public domain. Seattle Times and Kiro will duke it out with the court to make them public. If this was no big deal, why would Jane Doe file a restraining order to protect these notes? Kids, this is not about smear politics, it’s about integrity in public office and not creating a hostile work environment on the public’s dime.

It’s true there’s no sexual harassment claim filed, but there are “interviewer notes” in a personnel file that should be public domain. Seattle Times and Kiro will duke it out with the court to make them public. If this was no big deal, why would Jane Doe file a restraining order to protect these notes? Kids, this is not about smear politics, it’s about integrity in public office and not creating a hostile work environment on the public’s dime.

@24,

Keep in mind—as we reported above—the interview could have been sparked by a third party, not by Jane Doe herself.

Also, The Seattle Times already has the notes. They can run with them. At this point, the restraining order is to prevent anyone else from getting them.

@24,

Keep in mind—as we reported above—the interview could have been sparked by a third party, not by Jane Doe herself.

Also, The Seattle Times already has the notes. They can run with them. At this point, the restraining order is to prevent anyone else from getting them.

“If this was no big deal, why would Jane Doe file a restraining order to protect these notes? Kids, this is not about smear politics, it’s about integrity in public office and not creating a hostile work environment on the public’s dime.”

Or maybe it is about smear politics, because if the Times – and only the Times – has the notes and hasn’t published, can’t we presume that there was no hostile work environment? Insinuating that there was, without evidence… is smear politics!

Jane Doe apparently has reason enough to convince a judge to issue a TRO. And, she apparently also has reason enough not to file a formal complaint.

“If this was no big deal, why would Jane Doe file a restraining order to protect these notes? Kids, this is not about smear politics, it’s about integrity in public office and not creating a hostile work environment on the public’s dime.”

Or maybe it is about smear politics, because if the Times – and only the Times – has the notes and hasn’t published, can’t we presume that there was no hostile work environment? Insinuating that there was, without evidence… is smear politics!

Jane Doe apparently has reason enough to convince a judge to issue a TRO. And, she apparently also has reason enough not to file a formal complaint.

The question to be answered is why are the public records sealed with a restraining order? Jane Doe’s identity can be kept private – surely they have sharpees in county government.

Press was apoplectic that Hutchison’s private records were sealed. They claimed the people had the right to know, especially because the information may be relevant to the election.

There is no doubt that public official Constantine knows what is in the records that are sealed until after the election. He doesn’t want the public to know what is in their public records? Why the cover-up? That is a story.

The question to be answered is why are the public records sealed with a restraining order? Jane Doe’s identity can be kept private – surely they have sharpees in county government.

Press was apoplectic that Hutchison’s private records were sealed. They claimed the people had the right to know, especially because the information may be relevant to the election.

There is no doubt that public official Constantine knows what is in the records that are sealed until after the election. He doesn’t want the public to know what is in their public records? Why the cover-up? That is a story.

Josh, you’re missing two of the most important journalistic “W’s” in your question: When and Who?

When did this supposed discussion between Jane Doe and “her administrator” take place?

Who was she the administrator Jane Doe spoke to about this possible “unfair practice”? Was was when Ellen Petre was still working as council administrator?

You recall your earlier reporting that Constantine gave Petre the pink slip earlier this year, right?

Coincidence that she gets the axe about a month before this breaks, with very little public explanation?

Josh, you’re missing two of the most important journalistic “W’s” in your question: When and Who?

When did this supposed discussion between Jane Doe and “her administrator” take place?

Who was she the administrator Jane Doe spoke to about this possible “unfair practice”? Was was when Ellen Petre was still working as council administrator?

You recall your earlier reporting that Constantine gave Petre the pink slip earlier this year, right?

Coincidence that she gets the axe about a month before this breaks, with very little public explanation?

@28 Nope, sorry, wasn’t her. If you don’t believe me just ask scoopalicious.

@28 Nope, sorry, wasn’t her. If you don’t believe me just ask scoopalicious.

Dow was interviewed by Essex Porter of KIRO re: the unfair practice matter this week. From Dow’s mouth he said this was coming from a “third party” source. So it is about him, and it sounds like the third party here is acting as the whistle blower. Wasn’t it Dow who sponsored and passed legislation protecting whistle blowers in King County government this year? Now he’s calling everyone liars, including the third party source. He needs to go down to the sheriff’s office and take a polygraph himself, good grief.

Dow was interviewed by Essex Porter of KIRO re: the unfair practice matter this week. From Dow’s mouth he said this was coming from a “third party” source. So it is about him, and it sounds like the third party here is acting as the whistle blower. Wasn’t it Dow who sponsored and passed legislation protecting whistle blowers in King County government this year? Now he’s calling everyone liars, including the third party source. He needs to go down to the sheriff’s office and take a polygraph himself, good grief.

@29, Petre was the council administrator until she was sacked earlier this year, by, wait for it…Council Chairman Dow Constantine.

To be fair, you might ask blabbering Bristow and chatty Abe, whether she’s been involved in the documents dig re: Jane Doe, ’cause she was certainly buzzing around the council offices last week…

@29, Petre was the council administrator until she was sacked earlier this year, by, wait for it…Council Chairman Dow Constantine.

To be fair, you might ask blabbering Bristow and chatty Abe, whether she’s been involved in the documents dig re: Jane Doe, ’cause she was certainly buzzing around the council offices last week…

There’s nothing to this story. The bitchy newsreader is going down handily Nov 3, and there’s nothing the Hutch/Lambert smear machine can do to stop it.

There’s nothing to this story. The bitchy newsreader is going down handily Nov 3, and there’s nothing the Hutch/Lambert smear machine can do to stop it.

To get a TRO, you’ve got to get a court case. There’s no case involving Constantine in KC Superior. People don’t issue their own TROs.

Even if a file has been sealed by the court, the case number and names will still show up on the court docket.

To get a TRO, you’ve got to get a court case. There’s no case involving Constantine in KC Superior. People don’t issue their own TROs.

Even if a file has been sealed by the court, the case number and names will still show up on the court docket.

@33: sarah68:

Yes, there is a case in KingCo Superior Court. It is 09-2-39489-0 SEA. The plaintiff is Jane Doe and the defendant is King County.

You are correct that Dow Constantine is not a defendant in the case, because the “case” was only filed in order to file the TRO. It is not a cause of action relating to whatever Jane Doe’s concerns about Constantine may have been and that has never been reported by anyone, including Josh, Erica, or any of the “right-wing” and right-of-center sites that have been reporting on these events.

@33: sarah68:

Yes, there is a case in KingCo Superior Court. It is 09-2-39489-0 SEA. The plaintiff is Jane Doe and the defendant is King County.

You are correct that Dow Constantine is not a defendant in the case, because the “case” was only filed in order to file the TRO. It is not a cause of action relating to whatever Jane Doe’s concerns about Constantine may have been and that has never been reported by anyone, including Josh, Erica, or any of the “right-wing” and right-of-center sites that have been reporting on these events.

If the def is King County, it must be workplace-related. How do you know this, Anonymous? If the pleadings are Jane Doe v. King County, how did you tie it to Constantine?

If the def is King County, it must be workplace-related. How do you know this, Anonymous? If the pleadings are Jane Doe v. King County, how did you tie it to Constantine?

Abe and Bristow are in full out denial mode…I would too considering their jobs are on the line if Susan were to win.

Also, this has the be the first article written about Constantine without Sandeep's remarks…Good work!