Meanwhile, in the Eighth District

What am I missing?

You state that Delbene has raised: $477,851
But, she has this on hand; $614,862

How does she have more on hand than she has raised?

What am I missing?

You state that Delbene has raised: $477,851
But, she has this on hand; $614,862

How does she have more on hand than she has raised?

…are you not counting the money she has given to herself in her money raised column?

…are you not counting the money she has given to herself in her money raised column?

Are there any Microsoft VPs *not* planning runs for political office?

how many elections did she miss?

Suzan DelBene had missed nine votes in elections over the last four years

how many elections did she miss?

Suzan DelBene had missed nine votes in elections over the last four years

Are there any Microsoft VPs *not* planning runs for political office?

If we only look at the current MS VPs listed the MS web site, http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/a-d.aspx, we have more than 50 that aren’t currently running.

Are there any Microsoft VPs *not* planning runs for political office?

If we only look at the current MS VPs listed the MS web site, http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/a-d.aspx, we have more than 50 that aren’t currently running.

…to Kenneth’s point…the title “VP” has become almost as ubiquitous as “MBA.” It doesn’t mean what people think it means anymore.

Which gets us to the point that Mallahan is probably best described as a middle manager. There’s a perception that he’s in upper-level management at Tmobile, and as I understand it, that’s not the case.

…to Kenneth’s point…the title “VP” has become almost as ubiquitous as “MBA.” It doesn’t mean what people think it means anymore.

Which gets us to the point that Mallahan is probably best described as a middle manager. There’s a perception that he’s in upper-level management at Tmobile, and as I understand it, that’s not the case.

@6

but is says something when a guy puts a hundred thousand dollars more of his money into a mayoral race than a Microsoft VP running for federal office.

@6

but is says something when a guy puts a hundred thousand dollars more of his money into a mayoral race than a Microsoft VP running for federal office.

maybe…but pullilng a 2nd mortgage for $250k isn’t that difficult for many middle income families who have a lot of equity in their home.

maybe…but pullilng a 2nd mortgage for $250k isn’t that difficult for many middle income families who have a lot of equity in their home.

What is with Microsoft execs turned political rookies running against Reichert? Can’t the donkeys find someone on the Eastside with a little more credibility to throw their money behind?

What is with Microsoft execs turned political rookies running against Reichert? Can’t the donkeys find someone on the Eastside with a little more credibility to throw their money behind?

And Timothy, since you make getting that filthy rich sound so easy, I wonder what exactly do you do for a living.

Ross Hunter for Congress!

He’s the guy who can beat Reichart. He’s a proven moderate, pisses off his friend just as much as his enemies and has a Biden-esque inability to stay on message. We need somebody who can go toe-to-toe with Reichart and who has significant legislative experience. Not only is Ross the Democrat who can win, he’d be the best Representative for the folks in the 8th district in DC.

And Timothy, since you make getting that filthy rich sound so easy, I wonder what exactly do you do for a living.

Ross Hunter for Congress!

He’s the guy who can beat Reichart. He’s a proven moderate, pisses off his friend just as much as his enemies and has a Biden-esque inability to stay on message. We need somebody who can go toe-to-toe with Reichart and who has significant legislative experience. Not only is Ross the Democrat who can win, he’d be the best Representative for the folks in the 8th district in DC.

@11 – seriously. I agree. Hunter is about the right kind of D to win in that district.

But can someone find him a murderer to catch?

@11 – seriously. I agree. Hunter is about the right kind of D to win in that district.

But can someone find him a murderer to catch?

Gomez, isn’t obvious? I’m a professional blog commenter.

My point is two-fold:
A) I’ll bet that a majority of families in Seattle who bought a house 10-15 years ago have $250k or more in home equity.

B) The term “VP” is overused in Corporate America. In fact, I think in Mallahan’s bio, he even talks about a title they made up for him, something like VP of customer happiness or some such. He’s basically a middle manager.

I’m not arguing that he shouldn’t be considered wealthy, but I think there’s a misconception that this guy is very wealthy. He’s not.

Gomez, isn’t obvious? I’m a professional blog commenter.

My point is two-fold:
A) I’ll bet that a majority of families in Seattle who bought a house 10-15 years ago have $250k or more in home equity.

B) The term “VP” is overused in Corporate America. In fact, I think in Mallahan’s bio, he even talks about a title they made up for him, something like VP of customer happiness or some such. He’s basically a middle manager.

I’m not arguing that he shouldn’t be considered wealthy, but I think there’s a misconception that this guy is very wealthy. He’s not.

@12 – I think @11 is kidding, at least I hope so, because I want a representative that IS NOT a “proven moderate”(afraid of hard decisions), “pisses off his friends and enemies alike”(I don’t want him to piss off his friends – democrats, labor unions are cool), and has a “Biden-esque ability to stay on message”(piss off people for no good reason whatsoever).

@12 – I think @11 is kidding, at least I hope so, because I want a representative that IS NOT a “proven moderate”(afraid of hard decisions), “pisses off his friends and enemies alike”(I don’t want him to piss off his friends – democrats, labor unions are cool), and has a “Biden-esque ability to stay on message”(piss off people for no good reason whatsoever).

@13, you really have no idea what you are talking about. Most VPs, like Suzann, are responsible for P&Ls worth billions of dollars, and as such don’t get there by being “middle managers”, whatever that means.

@13, you really have no idea what you are talking about. Most VPs, like Suzann, are responsible for P&Ls worth billions of dollars, and as such don’t get there by being “middle managers”, whatever that means.

Perhaps before judging her as just “another” VP, you should all try and meet her. I was very skeptical of another microsoftie runni9ng- until I met her. She has real gravitas, presense, and a real record of accomplishment, and not as some “middle manager.” Give her a chance, and unless your are a right wing idealogue who likes Congressmen with nice hair and single digit IQ’s, you will be impressed.

BTW, it took him 17 years to figure it out when he had all that evidence in a drawer. Why not ask, “what took you so long?”

Perhaps before judging her as just “another” VP, you should all try and meet her. I was very skeptical of another microsoftie runni9ng- until I met her. She has real gravitas, presense, and a real record of accomplishment, and not as some “middle manager.” Give her a chance, and unless your are a right wing idealogue who likes Congressmen with nice hair and single digit IQ’s, you will be impressed.

BTW, it took him 17 years to figure it out when he had all that evidence in a drawer. Why not ask, “what took you so long?”

@15 Dacoach…is Joe Mallahan responsible for P&L’s worth billions of dollars?

@15 Dacoach…is Joe Mallahan responsible for P&L’s worth billions of dollars?

@12 We don’t have that kind of time. Remember, it took Reichart decades. DECADES.

@14 I am not joking. Ross Hunter is the opposite of bland. We need a Democratic candidate that will hold Reichart’s feet to the fire. Hunter is battle tested, fearless, and has a razor-sharp wit. Suzan Delbene is very nice, but she’s meek like Darcy and she’s never run for office before, so there is bound to be a learning curve. Put pressure on Reichart and he folds.

@12 We don’t have that kind of time. Remember, it took Reichart decades. DECADES.

@14 I am not joking. Ross Hunter is the opposite of bland. We need a Democratic candidate that will hold Reichart’s feet to the fire. Hunter is battle tested, fearless, and has a razor-sharp wit. Suzan Delbene is very nice, but she’s meek like Darcy and she’s never run for office before, so there is bound to be a learning curve. Put pressure on Reichart and he folds.

@18 I call BS. Ross Hunter folds like a house of cards in an earthquake whenever progressive values are at stake. THat’s been his record in Olympia since the beginning and it’s become even worse now that he’s in charge of more of the budget process. Why do you think all the unions hate him?

@18 I call BS. Ross Hunter folds like a house of cards in an earthquake whenever progressive values are at stake. THat’s been his record in Olympia since the beginning and it’s become even worse now that he’s in charge of more of the budget process. Why do you think all the unions hate him?

Well, this thread is about Suzann, and she does control a large P&L, but my guess is Operations Strategy, which would encompass all up TMobile operations, is probably fairly large since the company brings in over $20 billion a year.

But he’s just a middle manager.

Well, this thread is about Suzann, and she does control a large P&L, but my guess is Operations Strategy, which would encompass all up TMobile operations, is probably fairly large since the company brings in over $20 billion a year.

But he’s just a middle manager.

Is Ross Hunter the same guy who bombed out of the primary for King Co Executive? Well, then, why do you think he would be able to…oh never mind. Just realized that a brainless former TV anchor is leading that race.

Actually, dacoach, Joe Mallahan is a manager of 20 individuals who are like an internal think tank for operations. I don’t think he manages Operations itself.

Is Ross Hunter the same guy who bombed out of the primary for King Co Executive? Well, then, why do you think he would be able to…oh never mind. Just realized that a brainless former TV anchor is leading that race.

Actually, dacoach, Joe Mallahan is a manager of 20 individuals who are like an internal think tank for operations. I don’t think he manages Operations itself.

@ Timothy

You’re not painting an accurate picture Suzan DelBene or Joe Mallahan. While it’s true that in many industries there’s many with the title VP (branch managers in retail banking for example), that’s not true at Microsoft or T-Mobile.

Suzan DelBene is a former Microsoft Corporate VP. That would have put her well in the top 100 of a 93,000 employee organization. She was also a member of the team that founded Drugstore.com and she was CEO of another startup Nimble Technologies. Suzan’s husband Kurt is still a CVP at Microsoft. Ross Hunter was a General Manager – the rank just below CVP and above Senior Director at Microsoft.

I believe Darcy was a manager – significantly lower in the Microsoft hierarchy.

T-Mobile has ~35,000 employees. Last I checked less than 70 had the title of VP or above. Most of his years at T-Mobile, Joe reported directly to the CEO, COO, or CFO. The strategy teams Mallahan managed were usually ~20 Ph.D/MBA types looking for opportunities to significantly improve T-Mobile’s results. I once heard a T-Mobile leader refer to opportunities with a $100 million change in revenue or EBITDA as being on thesmall side for Joe’s team. Joe has led large cross-departmental initiatives at T-Mobile with teams as large as 500 (at peak).

At Chicago Tile, Joe was CEO of a company that had 200 employees.

I seriously doubt either took out a mortgage on their homes to make a financial contribution but I don’t disagree that there are many who make incomes closer to the median that may have enough home equity to borrow $250k.

Nice spin Tim, but nothing close to the truth.

@ Timothy

You’re not painting an accurate picture Suzan DelBene or Joe Mallahan. While it’s true that in many industries there’s many with the title VP (branch managers in retail banking for example), that’s not true at Microsoft or T-Mobile.

Suzan DelBene is a former Microsoft Corporate VP. That would have put her well in the top 100 of a 93,000 employee organization. She was also a member of the team that founded Drugstore.com and she was CEO of another startup Nimble Technologies. Suzan’s husband Kurt is still a CVP at Microsoft. Ross Hunter was a General Manager – the rank just below CVP and above Senior Director at Microsoft.

I believe Darcy was a manager – significantly lower in the Microsoft hierarchy.

T-Mobile has ~35,000 employees. Last I checked less than 70 had the title of VP or above. Most of his years at T-Mobile, Joe reported directly to the CEO, COO, or CFO. The strategy teams Mallahan managed were usually ~20 Ph.D/MBA types looking for opportunities to significantly improve T-Mobile’s results. I once heard a T-Mobile leader refer to opportunities with a $100 million change in revenue or EBITDA as being on thesmall side for Joe’s team. Joe has led large cross-departmental initiatives at T-Mobile with teams as large as 500 (at peak).

At Chicago Tile, Joe was CEO of a company that had 200 employees.

I seriously doubt either took out a mortgage on their homes to make a financial contribution but I don’t disagree that there are many who make incomes closer to the median that may have enough home equity to borrow $250k.

Nice spin Tim, but nothing close to the truth.

@23

“of” Suzan Delbene or Joe Mallahan. Looking forward to preview and/or the opportunity to edit.

@23

“of” Suzan Delbene or Joe Mallahan. Looking forward to preview and/or the opportunity to edit.

@11: Re: “Ross Hunter for Congress!”

Progressive Prism: the biggest thing you’re missing is that Ross doesn’t want to be 8th CD Rep. (at least, for this cycle). He has endorsed DelBene, and been very clear that he’s not running for Congress in 2010.

As much of a great candidate he may be, we should respect his wishes.

@11: Re: “Ross Hunter for Congress!”

Progressive Prism: the biggest thing you’re missing is that Ross doesn’t want to be 8th CD Rep. (at least, for this cycle). He has endorsed DelBene, and been very clear that he’s not running for Congress in 2010.

As much of a great candidate he may be, we should respect his wishes.

@11 Progressive Prism

Ross Hunter has endorsed Suzan DelBene. Ross has said repeatedly that he’s not interested in running for an office that would require spending most of his time in DC.

@11 Progressive Prism

Ross Hunter has endorsed Suzan DelBene. Ross has said repeatedly that he’s not interested in running for an office that would require spending most of his time in DC.

@ Staceyx3…you say, “Last I checked less than 70 had the title of VP or above.” How did you check?

@ Staceyx3…you say, “Last I checked less than 70 had the title of VP or above.” How did you check?

@27 Timothy

I’m a former T-Mobile employee and I still occasionally consult there.

I also have done some projects at Microsoft. There’s a subscription service called Directions on Microsoft that provide org charts, stats, etc.

@27 Timothy

I’m a former T-Mobile employee and I still occasionally consult there.

I also have done some projects at Microsoft. There’s a subscription service called Directions on Microsoft that provide org charts, stats, etc.

@27…were you under direct supervision of Joe?

@27…were you under direct supervision of Joe?

@29

No. I did not work for Joe directly or indirectly.

@29

No. I did not work for Joe directly or indirectly.

Ross can change his mind. When he was running for KC Exec, of course he’d tell people that he didn’t want to run for Congress. One race at a time.

I’m not saying he’s -going- to run, I’m saying he -should- run. Because he’d win and be an effective Congressman.

Ross can change his mind. When he was running for KC Exec, of course he’d tell people that he didn’t want to run for Congress. One race at a time.

I’m not saying he’s -going- to run, I’m saying he -should- run. Because he’d win and be an effective Congressman.

@32 Progressive Prism

Unseating Reichert is a $5 million proposition.

Every day that goes by it looks more probable that Suzan DelBene will be the only Democratic challenger to Reichert. Anyone else (including incumbent legislators) are going to have a hard time putting together the required financing if they wait much longer to get in the race.

@32 Progressive Prism

Unseating Reichert is a $5 million proposition.

Every day that goes by it looks more probable that Suzan DelBene will be the only Democratic challenger to Reichert. Anyone else (including incumbent legislators) are going to have a hard time putting together the required financing if they wait much longer to get in the race.

tim–

we get it. you have a built in dislike for vice presidents of large technology companies. find something else substantive to care about.

tim–

we get it. you have a built in dislike for vice presidents of large technology companies. find something else substantive to care about.

13. Let’s say you throw 3% down on a $250K home and finance the rest on a 6.5% mortgage. Factoring in a generously low 2% in property taxes and not even factoring in closing costs and the like, you’re paying about $1828 a month. That doesn’t even include utilities (always more expensive on a home you own yourself… and which includes utilities a landlord would typically cover for renters out there), maintenance and other assorted fees and taxes unique to home ownership.

Considering that someone making $30K is going to struggle to pay more than $1,000 a month in rent, let alone a mortgage in that amount plus the additional costs, let alone $1828 a month in mortgage PLUS the additional costs… I’m not sure how owning a $250K home isn’t that big a deal unless you are filthy fucking rich.

And it’s nice if you got in on this housing market 15 years ago when homes were cheap and the market value had yet to skyrocket, Timothy, but most Seattle residents weren’t that fortunate. So trying to play off someone who flips and picks up $250K homes like it’s no big deal as some sort of standard working class Seattlite is either disingenuous or ivory-tower level ignorance on your part.

You’re either rich or a long timer who got lucky by buying low in the early 90′s, and disclosing that may firebomb any appearance of objectivity on your part in this discussion, so I can’t blame you for not being forthright.

13. Let’s say you throw 3% down on a $250K home and finance the rest on a 6.5% mortgage. Factoring in a generously low 2% in property taxes and not even factoring in closing costs and the like, you’re paying about $1828 a month. That doesn’t even include utilities (always more expensive on a home you own yourself… and which includes utilities a landlord would typically cover for renters out there), maintenance and other assorted fees and taxes unique to home ownership.

Considering that someone making $30K is going to struggle to pay more than $1,000 a month in rent, let alone a mortgage in that amount plus the additional costs, let alone $1828 a month in mortgage PLUS the additional costs… I’m not sure how owning a $250K home isn’t that big a deal unless you are filthy fucking rich.

And it’s nice if you got in on this housing market 15 years ago when homes were cheap and the market value had yet to skyrocket, Timothy, but most Seattle residents weren’t that fortunate. So trying to play off someone who flips and picks up $250K homes like it’s no big deal as some sort of standard working class Seattlite is either disingenuous or ivory-tower level ignorance on your part.

You’re either rich or a long timer who got lucky by buying low in the early 90′s, and disclosing that may firebomb any appearance of objectivity on your part in this discussion, so I can’t blame you for not being forthright.

@32 Stacy, Stacey, Stacie

It will take the right candidate, regardless of money. $1 million wouldn’t get someone elected who appears insufficient.

@32 Stacy, Stacey, Stacie

It will take the right candidate, regardless of money. $1 million wouldn’t get someone elected who appears insufficient.

So then, you people champion COMMUNOFASCISTS?

So then, you people champion COMMUNOFASCISTS?

Would someone please report some actual information about Suzan’s policy positions, ideas, to-do lists, strategies for the other Washington? How she thinks she’s going to beat Reichert? I don’t give a damn what she did at Microsoft.

Would someone please report some actual information about Suzan’s policy positions, ideas, to-do lists, strategies for the other Washington? How she thinks she’s going to beat Reichert? I don’t give a damn what she did at Microsoft.

Are there any Microsoft VPs *not* planning runs for political office?