Mallahan Backs Out of Music Forum

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I’ll bet that Mallahan is going to start being more and more scarce. With the Gov’s endorsement today and your poll, they may feel they’ve got enough momentum to carry them through, and that showing up at likely unfriendly venues will not benefit them in any way.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I just saw mallahan at the columbia tower at 3 pm.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I saw him outside of City Hall at around 3:20. He was talking to a TV reporter on the 4th Ave side.

I can’t wait to see what the TV interview was about,a nd whether that was in fact his scheduling issue. I knew about the EMP event, so I was pretty surprised to see him outside City Hall 10 minutes before it was supposed to start.

the fundraiser was for mcginn, dow and holmes.

I can’t wait to see what the TV interview was about,a nd whether that was in fact his scheduling issue. I knew about the EMP event, so I was pretty surprised to see him outside City Hall 10 minutes before it was supposed to start.

the fundraiser was for mcginn, dow and holmes.

what is this etiquette of reporters where candidates just say “schduling conflict!” and there’s no follow up:

“so what’s this other event?”

it’s one thing if it’s true, and another thing if it’s not.

what is this etiquette of reporters where candidates just say “schduling conflict!” and there’s no follow up:

“so what’s this other event?”

it’s one thing if it’s true, and another thing if it’s not.

@6: No, that was a couple weeks ago.

@6: No, that was a couple weeks ago.

The ironic thing is that Mallahan released some decent cultural policies recently. Even though they totally ripped off McGinn, it was good to see, and made me think well of him. This move makes me think they were just lip service and that music, technology and culture are completely unimportant to him. Without a better explanation from Tina P, it’s all we can assume.

A punk move for sure.

@7 They did ask – sounds like it was ignored/brushed off. Which sounds pretty typical of the Mallahan campaign.

@8, I think @6 was responding to Josh’s description of the Sept 30 fundraiser as a fundraiser for McGinn.

The ironic thing is that Mallahan released some decent cultural policies recently. Even though they totally ripped off McGinn, it was good to see, and made me think well of him. This move makes me think they were just lip service and that music, technology and culture are completely unimportant to him. Without a better explanation from Tina P, it’s all we can assume.

A punk move for sure.

@7 They did ask – sounds like it was ignored/brushed off. Which sounds pretty typical of the Mallahan campaign.

@8, I think @6 was responding to Josh’s description of the Sept 30 fundraiser as a fundraiser for McGinn.

Podlodowski’s response is apropo to my comments @2.

They made the judgement that this forum likely already leans toward McGinn, and decided, at this point in the campaign, to minimize risk.

Podlodowski’s response is apropo to my comments @2.

They made the judgement that this forum likely already leans toward McGinn, and decided, at this point in the campaign, to minimize risk.

@9,

What I like about Meinert’s comment is the pre-rock use of the word “punk” … he’s double reclaimed it.

@9,

What I like about Meinert’s comment is the pre-rock use of the word “punk” … he’s double reclaimed it.

Susan Mallahan = Joe Hutchinson

Note the similarities in campaign strategies.

Susan Mallahan = Joe Hutchinson

Note the similarities in campaign strategies.

@14

That is in no way a fair comparison.

@14

That is in no way a fair comparison.

@9 Meinert…

music, technology and culture are completely unimportant to him.

Here’s what’s crazy about Mallahan.

He’s actually a no issue candidate. He frequently accuses McGinn of being a one issue canidate. But, he himself has no support other than the fact the people THINK he supports the tunnel. Nearly everyone who supports Mallahan is primarily doing so on the tunnel issue.

But, Mallahan has no record of having taken stances on anything. He has no issues on which his positions are known. There’s absolutely no way to know how he feels about a single issue that he hasn’t raised in the context of raising money and trying to gain the office of Mayor.

So, as to nightlife? The best we can say is that his interests align with money and power. We have no other record by which to judge him. Two examples spring to mind; the tunnel and the Burke Gilman. Both issues put him squarely in the camp of him aligning with monied interests.

What are his principles? Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing.

The saying is the devil you know over the devil you don’t. But in this instance, the power and monied interests have turned that on its head, and are choosing the devil the don’t know, but think they can control.

How’d that work for the Right with GWB?

@9 Meinert…

music, technology and culture are completely unimportant to him.

Here’s what’s crazy about Mallahan.

He’s actually a no issue candidate. He frequently accuses McGinn of being a one issue canidate. But, he himself has no support other than the fact the people THINK he supports the tunnel. Nearly everyone who supports Mallahan is primarily doing so on the tunnel issue.

But, Mallahan has no record of having taken stances on anything. He has no issues on which his positions are known. There’s absolutely no way to know how he feels about a single issue that he hasn’t raised in the context of raising money and trying to gain the office of Mayor.

So, as to nightlife? The best we can say is that his interests align with money and power. We have no other record by which to judge him. Two examples spring to mind; the tunnel and the Burke Gilman. Both issues put him squarely in the camp of him aligning with monied interests.

What are his principles? Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing.

The saying is the devil you know over the devil you don’t. But in this instance, the power and monied interests have turned that on its head, and are choosing the devil the don’t know, but think they can control.

How’d that work for the Right with GWB?

@16 Another thing- with McGinn releasing so many policies recently, it’s Mallahan harping on the tunnel. So McGinn’s clearly not a single-issue candidate, but Mallahan’s counting on single-issue voters.

@16 Another thing- with McGinn releasing so many policies recently, it’s Mallahan harping on the tunnel. So McGinn’s clearly not a single-issue candidate, but Mallahan’s counting on single-issue voters.

Right after the primary Mallahan refused to do a KUOW interview/debate with McGinn and instead scheduled his now famous 9 minute press conference at the same time. Even though he knew about the debate well before he scheduled the “press conference.”

Right after the primary Mallahan refused to do a KUOW interview/debate with McGinn and instead scheduled his now famous 9 minute press conference at the same time. Even though he knew about the debate well before he scheduled the “press conference.”

He has no issues on which his positions are known.

Hmmm, I just had to go look to see how true that was and..
http://www.joemallahan.com/Issues/

Oh, shit, there was an entire section of issues, that link to specific positions.

You went from a lie to a GWB comparison, geez, nice job.
What’s next for you, a Hitler ref?

He has no issues on which his positions are known.

Hmmm, I just had to go look to see how true that was and..
http://www.joemallahan.com/Issues/

Oh, shit, there was an entire section of issues, that link to specific positions.

You went from a lie to a GWB comparison, geez, nice job.
What’s next for you, a Hitler ref?

@19 Mr. Baker…

My point was that we only know the positions he’s taken during a campaign to obtain the office of Mayor. We only know the issues he’s been willing to take in the context of raising money.

He has no record of taking these same positions outside of that context.

Did you miss that point?

@19 Mr. Baker…

My point was that we only know the positions he’s taken during a campaign to obtain the office of Mayor. We only know the issues he’s been willing to take in the context of raising money.

He has no record of taking these same positions outside of that context.

Did you miss that point?

Do you think McGinn was upset that Joe cancelled because then he had no ride to the next event?

Do you think McGinn was upset that Joe cancelled because then he had no ride to the next event?

Charla is the weak link in the Mallahan campaign.

Charla is the weak link in the Mallahan campaign.

@22 I’ll give you $1 to say that to her face. Just give me some advance notice so I can make popcorn. You have health insurance, right? =O)

@22 I’ll give you $1 to say that to her face. Just give me some advance notice so I can make popcorn. You have health insurance, right? =O)

If I was Mallahan, I wouldn’t attend either. What’s the point? The “music community” has already indicated whom it supports. And who wants to listen to a bunch of punks (both kinds) clamoring for additional subsidies from the city when its resources are already overtaxed in this environment?

If I was Mallahan, I wouldn’t attend either. What’s the point? The “music community” has already indicated whom it supports. And who wants to listen to a bunch of punks (both kinds) clamoring for additional subsidies from the city when its resources are already overtaxed in this environment?

I would argue that Charla probably understands more about the city of Seattle and how local politics work than does Mallahan.

I’d also guess that she’s gained more valuable experience running for Mayor this year than has Mallahan.

I would argue that Charla probably understands more about the city of Seattle and how local politics work than does Mallahan.

I’d also guess that she’s gained more valuable experience running for Mayor this year than has Mallahan.

@24
I’ve often wondered if Charla was the one running and not Joe.

Actually the whole campaign has me wondering if Joe will only show up for the fun parts of being mayor and “outsource” everything else to his deputy and the press flack.

@24
I’ve often wondered if Charla was the one running and not Joe.

Actually the whole campaign has me wondering if Joe will only show up for the fun parts of being mayor and “outsource” everything else to his deputy and the press flack.

Thank you PublicoIa for posting this. I was just at the event, and at first I was pissed at Mallahan. Turns out, I now know who I am going to vote. Before hand I was down the middle of the road, because while I liked McGinn’s policies on music, I was pro tunnel – and I think Joe is sensible. But, since Mallahan didn’t show up, McGinn had lots of opportunity to explain his anti-tunnel reasons and many other policies beyond just music, which were very sound (pardon the pun). It was great. Their were a couple hundred people there and many West Seattle folks who vocally said this rationale helped them. I am solidly for McGinn now. Thanks Joe!

Thank you PublicoIa for posting this. I was just at the event, and at first I was pissed at Mallahan. Turns out, I now know who I am going to vote. Before hand I was down the middle of the road, because while I liked McGinn’s policies on music, I was pro tunnel – and I think Joe is sensible. But, since Mallahan didn’t show up, McGinn had lots of opportunity to explain his anti-tunnel reasons and many other policies beyond just music, which were very sound (pardon the pun). It was great. Their were a couple hundred people there and many West Seattle folks who vocally said this rationale helped them. I am solidly for McGinn now. Thanks Joe!

@9

McGinn is the punk. He bent right over for you.

@9

McGinn is the punk. He bent right over for you.

@24 – the ironic thing is that this was a crowd with many older folks, people from the symphony, professional studio folks, etc, most of whom hadn’t chosen a candidate yet. It was a big fuck up for Joe.

It also calls into question Joe’s policies. He has stated that music and the music community are important to him. He has a funny way of showing it. I think he just made a lot of people passionately dislike him.

Not to mention, how big of a wuss is Mallahan? Can’t show up where people ‘might not’ like him? Shit, wait until he has to deal with Council. They are going to walk all over this guy.

@24 – the ironic thing is that this was a crowd with many older folks, people from the symphony, professional studio folks, etc, most of whom hadn’t chosen a candidate yet. It was a big fuck up for Joe.

It also calls into question Joe’s policies. He has stated that music and the music community are important to him. He has a funny way of showing it. I think he just made a lot of people passionately dislike him.

Not to mention, how big of a wuss is Mallahan? Can’t show up where people ‘might not’ like him? Shit, wait until he has to deal with Council. They are going to walk all over this guy.

@9, @13: Guys, there’s nothing punk about Mallahan.

@9, @13: Guys, there’s nothing punk about Mallahan.

The burning question is why he ‘needs’ to keep canceling these appearances. What, do his schedule planners lack foresight?

Really, Mallaspam’s ducking at this point. Why he’s ducking these events is the $64,000 question.

How does Tina think this makes Mallaspam look good, canceling out of multiple events like this? These sort of faceplants are not what their campaign needs right now. She’s further butchering this already somewhat-butchered campaign. I sure as hell wouldn’t pay someone like her to run a campaign if this sort of crap is what I’d get out of her.

Honor your commitments, Phone Spam, if you want to win this election. You’ve got a teeming mass of undecideds out there and this won’t sell them.

The burning question is why he ‘needs’ to keep canceling these appearances. What, do his schedule planners lack foresight?

Really, Mallaspam’s ducking at this point. Why he’s ducking these events is the $64,000 question.

How does Tina think this makes Mallaspam look good, canceling out of multiple events like this? These sort of faceplants are not what their campaign needs right now. She’s further butchering this already somewhat-butchered campaign. I sure as hell wouldn’t pay someone like her to run a campaign if this sort of crap is what I’d get out of her.

Honor your commitments, Phone Spam, if you want to win this election. You’ve got a teeming mass of undecideds out there and this won’t sell them.

Maybe Tina was afraid the tough questions would make Mallahan have another emotional breakdown because he’s “in over his head” and “doesn’t know the answers”

Maybe Tina was afraid the tough questions would make Mallahan have another emotional breakdown because he’s “in over his head” and “doesn’t know the answers”

What am I missing? What is the rationale “helping” people from West Seattle? I like Mike on almost everything else, but in what way is the central issue of his campaign… “surface/transit”… anything other than “Fuck You, West Seattle/Georgetown/Burien/White Center/Seatac/etc.”? Why is the Stranger, which once opposed the Seattle Commons park plan on the grounds that it would create a nice big lawn for the rich people who’ll live in the pricey condos around the park… so hell bent to make the waterfront nicer and quieter place for the rich people who will live in the pricey new condos and eat in the pricey new restaurants that will go in? Surface/Transit is complete bullshit. EVERY argument I’ve heard for “surface/transit” is COMPLETE BULLSHIT! The Embarcadero freeway comparison is one made by someone who has never spent any time in the bay area. The Embarcadero was a never-completed Golden Gate bridge feeder, not one of only two major north-south arterials through the penninsula. The “when the viaduct was closed in August the traffic wasn’t so bad” argument ignores the fact that August is when most people take vacation, and we were well-warned that this would be a good time to take one. Why does the Stranger ignore every other closure of the viaduct and the West/South Seattle traffic clusterfucks that ensue? The tunnel plan sucks, surface/transit is WAY worse, and I don’t see pitting Seattle neighborhoods against each other to make nice for developers as “leadership”. Is Mike backing off of this crap? Did I miss something? I’m all ears. Or eyes, as the case may be.

What am I missing? What is the rationale “helping” people from West Seattle? I like Mike on almost everything else, but in what way is the central issue of his campaign… “surface/transit”… anything other than “Fuck You, West Seattle/Georgetown/Burien/White Center/Seatac/etc.”? Why is the Stranger, which once opposed the Seattle Commons park plan on the grounds that it would create a nice big lawn for the rich people who’ll live in the pricey condos around the park… so hell bent to make the waterfront nicer and quieter place for the rich people who will live in the pricey new condos and eat in the pricey new restaurants that will go in? Surface/Transit is complete bullshit. EVERY argument I’ve heard for “surface/transit” is COMPLETE BULLSHIT! The Embarcadero freeway comparison is one made by someone who has never spent any time in the bay area. The Embarcadero was a never-completed Golden Gate bridge feeder, not one of only two major north-south arterials through the penninsula. The “when the viaduct was closed in August the traffic wasn’t so bad” argument ignores the fact that August is when most people take vacation, and we were well-warned that this would be a good time to take one. Why does the Stranger ignore every other closure of the viaduct and the West/South Seattle traffic clusterfucks that ensue? The tunnel plan sucks, surface/transit is WAY worse, and I don’t see pitting Seattle neighborhoods against each other to make nice for developers as “leadership”. Is Mike backing off of this crap? Did I miss something? I’m all ears. Or eyes, as the case may be.

First, the tunnel is not the central issue of McGinn’s campaign, but it seems to be the only issue Mallahan supporters can talk about. For sure, McGinn has defined this campaign and Mallahan has no ideas.

And now the City says the funding approach for the tunnel won’t work – meaning, much like the monorail, that the tunnel will eventually not be built no matter who is mayor.

Sexy projects like the monorail and the tunnel sound great. But in the final analysis they don’t seem to be real transportation solutions and aren’t affordable. And while we’re farting around arguing about this shit, cities like Portland are doing it with less expensive, more practical ideas that actually get built.

First, the tunnel is not the central issue of McGinn’s campaign, but it seems to be the only issue Mallahan supporters can talk about. For sure, McGinn has defined this campaign and Mallahan has no ideas.

And now the City says the funding approach for the tunnel won’t work – meaning, much like the monorail, that the tunnel will eventually not be built no matter who is mayor.

Sexy projects like the monorail and the tunnel sound great. But in the final analysis they don’t seem to be real transportation solutions and aren’t affordable. And while we’re farting around arguing about this shit, cities like Portland are doing it with less expensive, more practical ideas that actually get built.

One thing to note, Meinert, is that with the monorail the county and the state were not involved. Seattle was on its own with funding and planning.

Since 99 is a state highway, the state will have a hand in funding and planning the viaduct’s replacement, even if the City is expected to foot some of the bill. It’s not like the monorail situation.

One thing to note, Meinert, is that with the monorail the county and the state were not involved. Seattle was on its own with funding and planning.

Since 99 is a state highway, the state will have a hand in funding and planning the viaduct’s replacement, even if the City is expected to foot some of the bill. It’s not like the monorail situation.

I'll bet that Mallahan is going to start being more and more scarce. With the Gov's endorsement today and your poll, they may feel they've got enough momentum to carry them through, and that showing up at likely unfriendly venues will not benefit them in any way.