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The State of Real Estate

[Editor's Note. This post was written by guest blogger Marco Lowe . Lowe joined the Seattle real estate community in June of 2007 and is suspected by many, probably fairly, for its collapse soon after. Evidence is still being collected but already William Justin refers to his unsold floors in 1521 as the, “Lowe Sales Units.”  Mr. Lowe is currently hiding in NYC trying to put together the financing to buy the main bridge connecting Manhattan to Brooklyn.]

Like a Metro bus finally making a left turn across a packed arterial during rush hour, some are starting to feel the real estate market start to turn as well. Last week’s Seattle Times story , “King County Home Sales climb to 2-year High” probably sent a few people to digging holes in their front yard to plant a “For Sale” sign, but that might be a bit premature in most cases.

My take of the data is that we are not going to see prices rise with most homes anytime soon in the majority of the Greater Seattle area real estate market. However, the less expensive homes are seeing some sales increase as prices have dropped and might even be seeing possible price stability.   Simply prices have dropped low enough and that more people, aided by incentive, are entering the market.

A good analogy is one from my old boss at a Seattle development company.  As any financial market breaks down, like the local real estate market, it is like the unwinding of a spool of thread.  Every sector of the market is pulled off the spool, in this case all types of real estate have taken a dramatic hit in value.

But eventually, as the market turns, one sector of the market starts to rewind on the spool and it is the indicator that things can, not will, turn around.  In this case it is the cheaper homes starting to stabilize and rewind.  Also, if this sales bump at the lower end does foretell a rebound, the rest of the market could still be years behind.

So what is going on?

Well, like all markets, no one really knows, but I am going to try to sift through all the numbers and give some recommendations.

First some basic facts:

•Though jerky, average home prices seem to be settling around $385,000 in King County

• Home sales are up 14% over last year in Seattle; the Eastside is up almost 2% but both areas had HEALTHY price drops of almost 14% since last year

•Southwestern King County saw a 54% jump in home sales!, but prices were still down 14.1%

•Seattle condo prices are down less than homes, 10%, but unlike homes, the number of sales are still dropping with 14.5% less sales than last year

•Eastside condo sales volumes are up, 8.7% this year, but are 15% lower in price than last year

You don’t need a PhD in economics to see that if prices drop far enough, sales go up. Supply and demand is playing out in the market.

My Recommendations:

First Time Buyers Looking for Less Than $400K Single Family Homes should consider buying now

Most of the upswing in home sales is from this part of the market.  Heck the AVERAGE price is $400,000 in Seattle (who thought they would see that sentence in their lifetime?). There is a lot of financial incentive for new buyers to purchase now with low interest rates and the $8,000 tax credit.  These buyers tend to be the same people priced out a couple of years ago and are now returning to the market, and getting a lot more home for their money.

Given the sales growth in this sector, and that the pesky law of supply and demand, there is a chance we have hit bottom, and with more folks coming into to buy, you might even see the cheaper homes rise in price a little in the future.

Look to buy in or near Seattle, or job centers like Bellevue or Redmond, preferably near a mass transit center.  If you are looking in the hot areas in SW King County, buy near a Sound Transit’s commuter rail or bus stations to Seattle to protect your purchase against the inevitable increase in gas prices.  The jump a year or so ago made the way out, cheaper communities full of commuters look like riskier bets to me.

If you want to live near work, but are outside of these more urban areas, REALLY push for a great price or consider renting.  There is NO telling when the outer areas, particularly outside of King County are going to recover.   And no, a strip mall and gas station are not urban areas.  That said, Kitsap County is showing some price increase, but I do not have number of sales for the county.

Buyers Looking for Single Family Homes Over $600,000 should consider buying for the long-term.

These homes are sitting on the market a long time and their owners are getting anxious and their prices are dropping. You will need a fair amount of cash to get loans this high and the bank is going to look all the way back to your grade school report cards before making any loans.  Sixth grade math aside, it is worth it.  There are some amazing deals right now on these higher end houses.

They higher you go above $600,000, (not a problem I will have anytime soon) the less the competition, you might even be the only one interested in the home.  There could still be some room to fall in this market so I would suggest planning on being in the home some time before planning to sell.

I would stick to the same rules as the under $400,000 homes above, but maybe a bit further out if you live on the Eastside of the lake.  These buyers tend to be, sadly, a little less sensitive to gas prices.

What happens with homes between $400-600K?

I would suggest REALLY knowing what you are doing.  I guess that applies to all big transactions, but more here than at the other price ranges.  Surely there are some good deals in this range, but also a number of homes that will drop if not sold in a few months looking to get under the jumbo loan line of $417,000 and find a larger pool of buyers.

Buyers with a LOT of Cash check out foreclosures.

Shocking, but some people do have a lot of cash still.   Golden Parachutes, inheritances, good savers, etc.  You can decide what price of home you want, but because of the cash, you are also open to the foreclosure market, which is still growing . Once a bank has taken back a home it will usually be auctioned off at the courthouse.  This auction stuff is not nearly as easy or clean as a real estate broker doing the leg work for you in the traditional real estate market, but there can be some AMAZING savings on some great homes.  The trick?  You have to pay with cash.

Condo Buyers should consider waiting.

Prices dropped 10-15% in the major condo areas of Seattle and Bellevue from last year AND volume of sale is off too.  Hence, we are likely still looking for bottom.  Therefore, buyers are in control from top to bottom in the price range, though you are likely to find more competition in the lower end.

Don’t be surprised if you buy a condo soon and see the price still drop a bit so negotiate well if you have to buy.  Also, the top end of the market seems to be struggling more.  This is anecdotal but the fact that pricey condo projects like Olive 8, 1521, and Escala still have units available is shocking, but The Four Seasons and Bellevue Towers cutting prices is almost a sign of the Apocalypse.

So, I would wait a bit yet. But if you really want to buy, bargain hard, have a real estate broker who knows their numbers, and hold on to the property a while.  You can find deals in the market with enough leg work and excel crunching.

Personally, if I had to buy I would look to buy condos in Seattle or the heart of downtown Bellevue.  There is a history of success and likely condo buyers tend to want a more urban lifestyle so you might see some help on price support…might.

And a little advice for people looking to sell.

If you’re selling a home priced less than $400,000, you are in a good place price-wise with a lot of buyers. Stage your house well and don’t let early lowball offers shake your nerves.  Data says you can get your price if you are in a good area.

If you’re selling a home priced more than $400,000, you should wait. The market just is not there yet.  If you have to do something, consider renting it out.  It is not as hard as it seems; I did it while in grad school 3000 miles from Seattle.  You might also be in a position to refinance.  Though rising a bit, rates are still very low.

If you’re looking to sell a condo. Wait. Again, bad news, the market is not there.  Advice is the same as above in terms of looking to rent your unit, if allowed by the pesky condo board or refinance to get payments down.  Sellers at the lower end could do better though. 


  • Dan

    Is there anything Josh is unqualified to advise his readers on?

  • Dan

    Is there anything Josh is unqualified to advise his readers on?

  • http://publicola.net/ Josh Feit

    @1,

    Please read the editor’s note at the top of this post, where the author’s name is bolded.

    I didn’t write this post.

  • http://publicola.net/ Josh Feit

    @1,

    Please read the editor’s note at the top of this post, where the author’s name is bolded.

    I didn’t write this post.

  • http://twitter.com/fattailed Fat-tailed

    Amazing how often the real estate advice from realtors is basically that now is a great time to buy. It’s almost as if they get paid a commission based on sales and so they have a vested interest and perceptual bias!

    Hard to see why anyone should take any buying advice from any realtor without seeing how accurate their analysis of the bubble was. Otherwise, realtors are always saying 1 of 2 things:

    1. prices are rising, so it’s a good time to buy since your investment will gain value over time.
    2. prices are falling, so you can get a great deal — a great time to buy!

  • http://twitter.com/fattailed Fat-tailed

    Amazing how often the real estate advice from realtors is basically that now is a great time to buy. It’s almost as if they get paid a commission based on sales and so they have a vested interest and perceptual bias!

    Hard to see why anyone should take any buying advice from any realtor without seeing how accurate their analysis of the bubble was. Otherwise, realtors are always saying 1 of 2 things:

    1. prices are rising, so it’s a good time to buy since your investment will gain value over time.
    2. prices are falling, so you can get a great deal — a great time to buy!

  • MarkS

    Josh @ 2: Dan doesn’t actually read the text of your stories. Only the headlines.

  • Sally

    Has the author actually bought a home himself?

  • Sally

    Has the author actually bought a home himself?

  • ObamaNerd

    Welcome to blogging, Marco Lowe. Enjoy the froth!

  • ObamaNerd

    Welcome to blogging, Marco Lowe. Enjoy the froth!

  • Marco Lowe

    @3, am not a realtor, and a lot of it says not to buy in ranges of certain prices and more importantly, not to sell. Caution is the word right now in most markets except the lower prices.

    @5, I bought back in 2003, in Seattle, and have seen a rocket, and crash of my value.

    @6 Thank you ObamaNerd, it is an honor to get a shout out from you!

  • Marco Lowe

    @3, am not a realtor, and a lot of it says not to buy in ranges of certain prices and more importantly, not to sell. Caution is the word right now in most markets except the lower prices.

    @5, I bought back in 2003, in Seattle, and have seen a rocket, and crash of my value.

    @6 Thank you ObamaNerd, it is an honor to get a shout out from you!

  • Mikos

    Marco? Isn’t he the guy who wrote: “Buy High, Sell Lowe”? I think that did initiate the crash.

  • Mikos

    Marco? Isn’t he the guy who wrote: “Buy High, Sell Lowe”? I think that did initiate the crash.

  • Mike

    I think Marco offers some sage advice. Simply put – close-in homes in Seattle are and will continue to be a scarce resource. There will always be people moving here.

    The prices, even at depressed levels, amaze me. I moved to Seattle in 1983 to take a job at a small software company called Microsoft. We ended up renting a 2.5 BR bungalow in Greenlake (122 NE 64th St) for $475/month. The landlord had been trying to sell it unsuccessfully for a few months and had reluctantly decided to take it off of the market. The unsold price?

    $72,500.

  • Mike

    I think Marco offers some sage advice. Simply put – close-in homes in Seattle are and will continue to be a scarce resource. There will always be people moving here.

    The prices, even at depressed levels, amaze me. I moved to Seattle in 1983 to take a job at a small software company called Microsoft. We ended up renting a 2.5 BR bungalow in Greenlake (122 NE 64th St) for $475/month. The landlord had been trying to sell it unsuccessfully for a few months and had reluctantly decided to take it off of the market. The unsold price?

    $72,500.

  • CaliforniaBroker

    Fat tailed is right. Realtors always say it is time to buy because the prices are at the lowest, which is always true.
    What they don’t tell you is that if you wait six months, the prices will be lower.
    I am a licensed Broker and an agent, and not a Realturd.
    Ups, I meant Real-tort

  • CaliforniaBroker

    Fat tailed is right. Realtors always say it is time to buy because the prices are at the lowest, which is always true.
    What they don’t tell you is that if you wait six months, the prices will be lower.
    I am a licensed Broker and an agent, and not a Realturd.
    Ups, I meant Real-tort

  • Kim

    “If you’re selling a home priced more than $400,000, you should wait”.

    OR SELL TO YOUR SISTER.

  • Kim

    “If you’re selling a home priced more than $400,000, you should wait”.

    OR SELL TO YOUR SISTER.

  • Marco Lowe

    Thanks Kim!

  • Marco Lowe

    Thanks Kim!

  • SolarBoy

    If you’re selling a home priced more than $400,000, you should throw in a set of solar panels and Ginsu knives.

  • SolarBoy

    If you’re selling a home priced more than $400,000, you should throw in a set of solar panels and Ginsu knives.

  • http://www.bombasticmo.com/ BombasticMo

    I’m having a hard time deciphering your Editor’s Note. Marco Lowe is suspected of crashing the Real Estate Market here in Seattle?

    Is that a bad thing? Are you talking shit? If that’s the case, why is he blogging for you. The note really threw me off, and I’ve read it like 5 times.

    The article was interesting. As a Seattle condo-owner who bought in August 07, I’m feeling quite a pinch. I hope you’re wrong about the prices continuing to go down… this situation SUCKS. But I wouldn’t be surprised if you were right.

    Any chance you wanna right a follow up piece on when it’s right to just walk away?

  • http://www.bombasticmo.com BombasticMo

    I’m having a hard time deciphering your Editor’s Note. Marco Lowe is suspected of crashing the Real Estate Market here in Seattle?

    Is that a bad thing? Are you talking shit? If that’s the case, why is he blogging for you. The note really threw me off, and I’ve read it like 5 times.

    The article was interesting. As a Seattle condo-owner who bought in August 07, I’m feeling quite a pinch. I hope you’re wrong about the prices continuing to go down… this situation SUCKS. But I wouldn’t be surprised if you were right.

    Any chance you wanna right a follow up piece on when it’s right to just walk away?

  • Marco Lowe

    @14
    The intro is entirely in jest. I did take a real estate development job in June of 2007 but after that it is just me kidding. My real life story is MUCH more boring. The last sentence was a joke about someone being foolish enough to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.

    That is an interesting idea for a follow up column. Any walking away must factor in the hit to your credit, which I believe is seven years. A good financial adviser should be consulted for any decision of that magnitude.

  • Marco Lowe

    @14
    The intro is entirely in jest. I did take a real estate development job in June of 2007 but after that it is just me kidding. My real life story is MUCH more boring. The last sentence was a joke about someone being foolish enough to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.

    That is an interesting idea for a follow up column. Any walking away must factor in the hit to your credit, which I believe is seven years. A good financial adviser should be consulted for any decision of that magnitude.

  • Erin

    Marco should go back to playing politics……poorly. Leave real estate to the professionals.

  • Erin

    Marco should go back to playing politics……poorly. Leave real estate to the professionals.

  • http://twitter.com/fattailed Fat-tailed

    The entire idea that purchasing a home is an investment was a short-lived delusion. It wasn’t true before WWII and won’t be true in the future. In the very long term, land values have risen with inflation and that’s about it. Built structures tend to go down in value like most other capital investments, depreciating over time. Seemingly always-rising values were a bubbly exception, not the normal state of things.

    So ignore the bleatings of the “real estate community” (not a community I’d want to be a part of!) Buy a home you can afford. Plan to stay there. Consider housing a source of stability, not dollars. Otherwise, it won’t go well for you.

    Don’t believe me. Check out this graph of home values from 1890 – 2006:

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/08/26/weekinreview/27leon_graph2.large.gif

  • http://twitter.com/fattailed Fat-tailed

    The entire idea that purchasing a home is an investment was a short-lived delusion. It wasn’t true before WWII and won’t be true in the future. In the very long term, land values have risen with inflation and that’s about it. Built structures tend to go down in value like most other capital investments, depreciating over time. Seemingly always-rising values were a bubbly exception, not the normal state of things.

    So ignore the bleatings of the “real estate community” (not a community I’d want to be a part of!) Buy a home you can afford. Plan to stay there. Consider housing a source of stability, not dollars. Otherwise, it won’t go well for you.

    Don’t believe me. Check out this graph of home values from 1890 – 2006:

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/08/26/weekinreview/27leon_graph2.large.gif

  • Gomez

    Any trends we’re seeing right now don’t necessarily tell the truth. Let’s wait until the stimulus package expires and the market’s left to operate on its own before we decide if the market’s recovering. Right now, the current rebound is being buoyed in part by tax breaks, stimulus funding and eager investors who are buying into the ‘trend’.

  • Gomez

    Any trends we’re seeing right now don’t necessarily tell the truth. Let’s wait until the stimulus package expires and the market’s left to operate on its own before we decide if the market’s recovering. Right now, the current rebound is being buoyed in part by tax breaks, stimulus funding and eager investors who are buying into the ‘trend’.

  • Marco Lowe

    @16
    Mom,
    Can you please just email me directly, this is worse than you visiting me every day at camp when I was nine.
    Marco
    PS, I will be over to pick up my laundry after dinner.

  • Marco Lowe

    @16
    Mom,
    Can you please just email me directly, this is worse than you visiting me every day at camp when I was nine.
    Marco
    PS, I will be over to pick up my laundry after dinner.

  • Dan

    @MarkS-FUCK YOU!!!

  • Dan

    @MarkS-FUCK YOU!!!

  • MarkS

    Josh @ 2: Dan doesn't actually read the text of your stories. Only the headlines.