More on Cascade's Bagshaw Endorsement

there’s something dishonest about taking their money and telling CBC she’ll push through on the trail.

there’s something honest about the other guy saying “yeah, I support bikes, your big deal, but really folks my heart is with poor people.”

And telling CBC they should push for bilkes without setting off a backlash, my god, is that what set them off? Sounds like a bunch of latex clad yuppies who like to suck up to establishment candidates.

She flies an airplane. for fun.

This is environmental?

there’s something dishonest about taking their money and telling CBC she’ll push through on the trail.

there’s something honest about the other guy saying “yeah, I support bikes, your big deal, but really folks my heart is with poor people.”

And telling CBC they should push for bilkes without setting off a backlash, my god, is that what set them off? Sounds like a bunch of latex clad yuppies who like to suck up to establishment candidates.

She flies an airplane. for fun.

This is environmental?

Curious to know if Bagshaw’s CBC membership pre-dates her pondering whether to run for office…

By the way, CBC has a great process if what they’re seeking is a candidate who tells you what you want to hear on your form while they prepare to stab you in the back. God forbid a candidate like Bloom should be honest about his positions and passions. Do they really think Bagshaw is deeply committed to bikes? On what possible basis?

Curious to know if Bagshaw’s CBC membership pre-dates her pondering whether to run for office…

By the way, CBC has a great process if what they’re seeking is a candidate who tells you what you want to hear on your form while they prepare to stab you in the back. God forbid a candidate like Bloom should be honest about his positions and passions. Do they really think Bagshaw is deeply committed to bikes? On what possible basis?

Should a candidate refuse donations from people who they disagree with on one issue?

Should a candidate not talk money from the machinists if they oppose the F-22 but otherwise are very committed to labor. How about from environmentalists if they think everything is great except the bag fee?

There is a lot more to this election than bikes and it seems weird to think she will not do what she says simply because some business give her money.

Do they really think Bagshaw is deeply committed to bikes? On what possible basis?

Is Bloom? They thought Bagshaws record and statements were better than his when it comes to their narrow issue focus. Just being honest does not mean he should get an endorsement any more than NARAL should endorse an anti-choicer or someone who really doesn’t care about the issue simply becasue they are upfront about it.

Should a candidate refuse donations from people who they disagree with on one issue?

Should a candidate not talk money from the machinists if they oppose the F-22 but otherwise are very committed to labor. How about from environmentalists if they think everything is great except the bag fee?

There is a lot more to this election than bikes and it seems weird to think she will not do what she says simply because some business give her money.

Do they really think Bagshaw is deeply committed to bikes? On what possible basis?

Is Bloom? They thought Bagshaws record and statements were better than his when it comes to their narrow issue focus. Just being honest does not mean he should get an endorsement any more than NARAL should endorse an anti-choicer or someone who really doesn’t care about the issue simply becasue they are upfront about it.

I am a former bicycle commuter, using the Burke Gilman Trail as my favorite way to get to work from Lake Forest Park to the University of Washington. As a city councilmember in Lake Forest Park, and as King County’s lawyer, I have been committed to building a network of bike lanes, trails, and low-traffic bicycle boulevards throughout our city and region for decades.

It is true that Ballard industrial and maritime business owners have contributed to my campaign. But that does not mean, in any way, shape or form, that I believe lawsuits are the best way to resolve the conflict between the industrial owners and bicyclists. I do not.

The truth is we have spent nearly two decades trying to complete the Burke Gilman Trail. The connection is long overdue. And the connection needs to be made so bicyclists have a safe, predictable bike path upon which to ride separated safely from the freight and fuel trucks.

The city is facing many pressing issues. Decisions won’t be easy but they need to made: that is the basis of progress.

I am fully aware that there are conflicting interests. I spent decades in my professional life negotiating and facilitating such issues. I know how to bring people of different opinions together and find workable solutions. The parties in this law suit can find compromises without being compromised. I know, because that is what I do and will continue to do on the Seattle City Council.

Sally, thanks for explaining your views on this issue in greater detail.

For those who are interested, Sally was kind enough to expand on her views on bicycle infrastructure as part of our endorsement process:

http://friendsofseattle.org/2009-voters-guide-primary-election/seattle-city-council-pos-4/sally-bagshaw#Questionnaire_Bicycle

Our endorsement decisions should be ready at the start of next week.

Sally, thanks for explaining your views on this issue in greater detail.

For those who are interested, Sally was kind enough to expand on her views on bicycle infrastructure as part of our endorsement process:

http://friendsofseattle.org/2009-voters-guide-primary-election/seattle-city-council-pos-4/sally-bagshaw#Questionnaire_Bicycle

Our endorsement decisions should be ready at the start of next week.

@4 This was a surprisingly good answer until you got to: “Decisions won’t be easy but they need to made: that is the basis of progress.” If only that meant anything!

This wasn’t much better: “I know how to bring people of different opinions together and find workable solutions.”

Whatever political consultant instructed you on pivoting from one empty talking point to the next really ought to be out of a job.

@4 This was a surprisingly good answer until you got to: “Decisions won’t be easy but they need to made: that is the basis of progress.” If only that meant anything!

This wasn’t much better: “I know how to bring people of different opinions together and find workable solutions.”

Whatever political consultant instructed you on pivoting from one empty talking point to the next really ought to be out of a job.

@4 This was a surprisingly good answer until you got to: “Decisions won’t be easy but they need to made: that is the basis of progress.” If only that meant anything!

This wasn’t much better: “I know how to bring people of different opinions together and find workable solutions.”

Whatever political consultant instructed you on pivoting from one empty talking point to the next really ought to be out of a job.

@3 I catch your point, but here’s the thing: A candidate should not be endorsed if they carefully say they support the “principle” behind an issue but take $ from people whose main issue is opposing the *reality* of that same issue. Not arguing that Bloom should have gotten the CBC endorsement. But neither should Bagshaw

@3 I catch your point, but here’s the thing: A candidate should not be endorsed if they carefully say they support the “principle” behind an issue but take $ from people whose main issue is opposing the *reality* of that same issue. Not arguing that Bloom should have gotten the CBC endorsement. But neither should Bagshaw

@3 I catch your point, but here’s the thing: A candidate should not be endorsed if they carefully say they support the “principle” behind an issue but take $ from people whose main issue is opposing the *reality* of that same issue. Not arguing that Bloom should have gotten the CBC endorsement. But neither should Bagshaw

@7 Is that really their main issue? I am pretty sure those business have a lot more pressing concerns then bikes.

Maybe they like her support for repealing the head-tax and like her plans for encouraging economic growth. Hell maybe they just think Bloom is a nut and worry about what he would do that would hurt their business (living wage, taxes, etc).

And hell, if they want to waste their money on a candidate who will not support their issues that is more their problem than hers.

@7 Is that really their main issue? I am pretty sure those business have a lot more pressing concerns then bikes.

Maybe they like her support for repealing the head-tax and like her plans for encouraging economic growth. Hell maybe they just think Bloom is a nut and worry about what he would do that would hurt their business (living wage, taxes, etc).

And hell, if they want to waste their money on a candidate who will not support their issues that is more their problem than hers.

@7 Is that really their main issue? I am pretty sure those business have a lot more pressing concerns then bikes.

Maybe they like her support for repealing the head-tax and like her plans for encouraging economic growth. Hell maybe they just think Bloom is a nut and worry about what he would do that would hurt their business (living wage, taxes, etc).

And hell, if they want to waste their money on a candidate who will not support their issues that is more their problem than hers.

For his part, Bloom proudly lists Pat “don’t shove low-income housing down our throats” Murakami on his endorsements. Trying to wrap my head around that one.

For his part, Bloom proudly lists Pat “don’t shove low-income housing down our throats” Murakami on his endorsements. Trying to wrap my head around that one.

For his part, Bloom proudly lists Pat “don’t shove low-income housing down our throats” Murakami on his endorsements. Trying to wrap my head around that one.

Seeing as how she served on the Lake Forest Park city council, I’d like to know what Sally Bagshaw thinks of that city’s ridiculous placement of stop signs on the Burke Gilman Trail, some of which “protect” nothing but the private driveways of wealthy residents.

Seeing as how she served on the Lake Forest Park city council, I’d like to know what Sally Bagshaw thinks of that city’s ridiculous placement of stop signs on the Burke Gilman Trail, some of which “protect” nothing but the private driveways of wealthy residents.

Seeing as how she served on the Lake Forest Park city council, I’d like to know what Sally Bagshaw thinks of that city’s ridiculous placement of stop signs on the Burke Gilman Trail, some of which “protect” nothing but the private driveways of wealthy residents.

@9 Wo-ah — good catch on Murakami. That’s utterly bizarre. And troubling.

@9 Wo-ah — good catch on Murakami. That’s utterly bizarre. And troubling.

@9 Wo-ah — good catch on Murakami. That’s utterly bizarre. And troubling.

Those same “anti-bike zealots” people point out donate to Bagshaw also donate to Nickels, don’t they?

CBC does some good work. But its trashing those people it didn’t endorse this year is a disservice to its membership and has really lowered my respect for them.

Those same “anti-bike zealots” people point out donate to Bagshaw also donate to Nickels, don’t they?

CBC does some good work. But its trashing those people it didn’t endorse this year is a disservice to its membership and has really lowered my respect for them.

Those same “anti-bike zealots” people point out donate to Bagshaw also donate to Nickels, don’t they?

CBC does some good work. But its trashing those people it didn’t endorse this year is a disservice to its membership and has really lowered my respect for them.

@12 Who’d they trash, Trevor? Looks like it’s Bloom bringing up Bagshaw’s contributors, while being noncommittal on the Burke-Gilman trail himself. Seems like it’s Joe Mallahan flinging crap about green bike lanes while not really knowing a whole lot about the issues.

@12 Who’d they trash, Trevor? Looks like it’s Bloom bringing up Bagshaw’s contributors, while being noncommittal on the Burke-Gilman trail himself. Seems like it’s Joe Mallahan flinging crap about green bike lanes while not really knowing a whole lot about the issues.

@12 Who’d they trash, Trevor? Looks like it’s Bloom bringing up Bagshaw’s contributors, while being noncommittal on the Burke-Gilman trail himself. Seems like it’s Joe Mallahan flinging crap about green bike lanes while not really knowing a whole lot about the issues.

@13: In their newsletter, CBC trashed Licata on the timeliness of his getting them a questionnaire without acknowledging any of the positive work he’s done on bike advocacy. It was a lazy slam, and not issue-based.

And maybe you missed Erica’s earlier post? Their criticism of Bloom because he supposedly “spends too much time listening to folks who think preserving auto capacity is a social justice issue” is gratuitous name-calling, not thoughtful analysis of a candidate’s positions.

So I repeat: this kind of behavior, which seems more about being one of Nickels’s attack dogs than about being an issue advocacy organization, does a disservice to CBC’s members.

@13: In their newsletter, CBC trashed Licata on the timeliness of his getting them a questionnaire without acknowledging any of the positive work he’s done on bike advocacy. It was a lazy slam, and not issue-based.

And maybe you missed Erica’s earlier post? Their criticism of Bloom because he supposedly “spends too much time listening to folks who think preserving auto capacity is a social justice issue” is gratuitous name-calling, not thoughtful analysis of a candidate’s positions.

So I repeat: this kind of behavior, which seems more about being one of Nickels’s attack dogs than about being an issue advocacy organization, does a disservice to CBC’s members.

@13: In their newsletter, CBC trashed Licata on the timeliness of his getting them a questionnaire without acknowledging any of the positive work he’s done on bike advocacy. It was a lazy slam, and not issue-based.

And maybe you missed Erica’s earlier post? Their criticism of Bloom because he supposedly “spends too much time listening to folks who think preserving auto capacity is a social justice issue” is gratuitous name-calling, not thoughtful analysis of a candidate’s positions.

So I repeat: this kind of behavior, which seems more about being one of Nickels’s attack dogs than about being an issue advocacy organization, does a disservice to CBC’s members.

I can appreciate the need to satisfy the needs of bicyclists to to use that means of transportation for both work and recreation. However, especially in this economy, the reality of most peoples’ existence is wedded to either cars or buses, no matter how much they might wish to be able to use their bikes for all or most trips. For those who are concerned about low- and moderate-income people, bike lanes aren’t the overwhelming issue. Single parents who must take children to daycare or school before work, people who work several bus zones away so it’s impractical to combine biking and bussing, those who have night jobs and don’t want to bike in the dark — biking is simply not workable. I worry about those people finding the cash to make a rent payment, paying for food, and buying gas for their often-old car. Those are real world worries; sharrows on every city street are not.

I can appreciate the need to satisfy the needs of bicyclists to to use that means of transportation for both work and recreation. However, especially in this economy, the reality of most peoples’ existence is wedded to either cars or buses, no matter how much they might wish to be able to use their bikes for all or most trips. For those who are concerned about low- and moderate-income people, bike lanes aren’t the overwhelming issue. Single parents who must take children to daycare or school before work, people who work several bus zones away so it’s impractical to combine biking and bussing, those who have night jobs and don’t want to bike in the dark — biking is simply not workable. I worry about those people finding the cash to make a rent payment, paying for food, and buying gas for their often-old car. Those are real world worries; sharrows on every city street are not.

I can appreciate the need to satisfy the needs of bicyclists to to use that means of transportation for both work and recreation. However, especially in this economy, the reality of most peoples’ existence is wedded to either cars or buses, no matter how much they might wish to be able to use their bikes for all or most trips. For those who are concerned about low- and moderate-income people, bike lanes aren’t the overwhelming issue. Single parents who must take children to daycare or school before work, people who work several bus zones away so it’s impractical to combine biking and bussing, those who have night jobs and don’t want to bike in the dark — biking is simply not workable. I worry about those people finding the cash to make a rent payment, paying for food, and buying gas for their often-old car. Those are real world worries; sharrows on every city street are not.

I can see where they’re both coming from. What bothers me about Bloom is that he clearly thinks 20th Century (which I supposed makes sense considering that where he spent most of his life).

I can see where they’re both coming from. What bothers me about Bloom is that he clearly thinks 20th Century (which I supposed makes sense considering that where he spent most of his life).

I can see where they’re both coming from. What bothers me about Bloom is that he clearly thinks 20th Century (which I supposed makes sense considering that where he spent most of his life).

@16: Those who spent most of their lives in the 20th century include everyone over the age of 20.

@16: Those who spent most of their lives in the 20th century include everyone over the age of 20.

@16: Those who spent most of their lives in the 20th century include everyone over the age of 20.

@16 Yeah, funny that Bloom remembers the old days when there were poor people. Glad we fixed that problem back in the New Millennium.

@16 Yeah, funny that Bloom remembers the old days when there were poor people. Glad we fixed that problem back in the New Millennium.

@16 Yeah, funny that Bloom remembers the old days when there were poor people. Glad we fixed that problem back in the New Millennium.

Sally Bagshaw and David Bloom are pretty close to the same age. Let’s not let ageism creep into the picture. It would be good to read an analysis based on their published positions, including their posted answers to the King County Democrats questionnaire, and their donor lists–not potshots, but an analysis.

Sally Bagshaw and David Bloom are pretty close to the same age. Let’s not let ageism creep into the picture. It would be good to read an analysis based on their published positions, including their posted answers to the King County Democrats questionnaire, and their donor lists–not potshots, but an analysis.

Sally Bagshaw and David Bloom are pretty close to the same age. Let’s not let ageism creep into the picture. It would be good to read an analysis based on their published positions, including their posted answers to the King County Democrats questionnaire, and their donor lists–not potshots, but an analysis.

Hey, speak for yourselves, I’m only 12. I don’t mean his age, I mean that he’s not talking better food and transportation options for low-income people.

Hey, speak for yourselves, I’m only 12. I don’t mean his age, I mean that he’s not talking better food and transportation options for low-income people.

Hey, speak for yourselves, I’m only 12. I don’t mean his age, I mean that he’s not talking better food and transportation options for low-income people.

I am a former bicycle commuter, using the Burke Gilman Trail as my favorite way to get to work from Lake Forest Park to the University of Washington. As a city councilmember in Lake Forest Park, and as King County's lawyer, I have been committed to building a network of bike lanes, trails, and low-traffic bicycle boulevards throughout our city and region for decades.

It is true that Ballard industrial and maritime business owners have contributed to my campaign. But that does not mean, in any way, shape or form, that I believe lawsuits are the best way to resolve the conflict between the industrial owners and bicyclists. I do not.

The truth is we have spent nearly two decades trying to complete the Burke Gilman Trail. The connection is long overdue. And the connection needs to be made so bicyclists have a safe, predictable bike path upon which to ride separated safely from the freight and fuel trucks.

The city is facing many pressing issues. Decisions won't be easy but they need to made: that is the basis of progress.

I am fully aware that there are conflicting interests. I spent decades in my professional life negotiating and facilitating such issues. I know how to bring people of different opinions together and find workable solutions. The parties in this law suit can find compromises without being compromised. I know, because that is what I do and will continue to do on the Seattle City Council.