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Internet Killed the Radio Star

[Editor's note: Rep. Jay Inslee has a role in all this Internet radio business too.]

If anyone truly believes the future in commercial broadcast radio as more than a niche market has a lifespan of more than a few years, I expect they are 40 years or older, live in an area with poor broadband coverage, or have never heard of this thing called the iPhone. Mobile radio—using devices like the iPhone to listen to Internet radio—is going to kill standard commercial formats.  It may also bring new life to non-corporate formats like indie, college, alternative, and public radio broadcasters.

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Commercial formats rely on a captive audience, one that’s in cars or commuting or running or biking (really, you shouldn’t) or in an office, and doesn’t have an easy way to get access to other music of interest when in those environments. You see where I’m going with this.

Commercial radio, even without payola (which has morphed again and again but never disappeared), comprises what most people want to hear as filtered through the corporate engines of maceration. But listener numbers show that fewer people want to hear the same stuff, and they certainly don’t want to hear it divvied up among obnoxious, frequent advertisements that are the preferred form for the medium.

The Walkman was the first peal of the death knell of commercial radio, early MP3 players were the second, and the iPod was a very loud third that’s still reverberating. The problem with those three bell ringings was that you had to
have enough music on them to make it a worthwhile alternative to commercial AM or FM when you were out and about. (One could argue that recording off radio to a cassette made commercial radio more valuable to Walkman owners, of course.)

An attempt to fix the problem: Several firms offer subscription services to let you load up devices with music, but you still have to choose what you want before you leave the PC with which you synchronize your device. It’s a larger universe, but you can’t decide on the go what you want to hear."

And portable music devices, even those with a subscription behind them, didn’t solve the problem of ubiquitous music on demand outside of one’s own library at the time. Subscription services initially required that you downloaded and synced content at a desktop PC.

Satellite radio was supposed to supplement MP3 players by providing a huge amount of music all the time regardless of what city you were in (and in the spaces between), and be the final blast for terrestrial AM and FM. But I’ll tell you a few secrets. First, even with hundreds of channels, the programming within most channels is niche oriented and doesn’t stand the test of regular listening. There are some exceptions which are useful for markets without indie AM/FM.

Second, satellite radio continues to get short-term boosts in subscribers through bundled deals with automakers, in which a subsidized radio with the capability to pick up satellite signals is part of a car package and 6 to 12 months of a subscription is included.

Third, the term satellite radio is a big joke in the industry. Yes, there are satellites—Rock, Roll, Rhythm, and Blues are the names of those launched by XM Radio pre merger—but in cities, thousands of low-power retransmitters provide signals that can actually be used inside homes and around buildings.

Finally, satellite radio was massively expensive to launch, has been massively unprofitable to operate, and a bidding war among the two merged competitors added to the price tag. The merged Sirius XM Radio has monthly fees to listen to stuff you can get on earth for free or with more flexibility.

If not satellite radio, then Internet radio would, of course, kill the commercial AM/FM stations, right? Internet radio meant that you could stream audio over the Internet from a large number (now nearly all) broadcast stations—including indie, commercial, public, religious, talk, and so on—and tens of thousands of Internet-only programmers.

That certainly took some of the market. Research has shown that millions of hours of broadcast listened shifted to the Internet, but the power-law curve prevails there just as it does elsewhere. That is, most Internet radio listening is of regular AM/FM stations or from programming entities like American Public Media or National Public Radio, because those outfits market themselves well to the listening audience.

Of course, stations can and some do provide multiple Internet streams with alternative programming that might be more appealing to different audiences, and unaffordable to set up as a separate station online. But programmers are programmers; alternate commercial online streams are not much more interesting than the high-wattage broadcasts.

HD Radio was supposed to solve part of that problem, by enhancing AM and FM with crisp digital reception, and giving FM stations the ability to add multiple "subchannels" at lower fidelity than the main broadcast. HD Radio, however, requires new receivers, which 4 years into their availability still sell poorly. About 2,000 stations, including over a dozen in the Seattle-Tacoma area, broadcast in HD, but listenership is likely 1 percent of the analog AM/FM signal. (AM radio sounds really good in HD Radio format, but technical limitations have kept AM broadcasters from investing heavily yet. Or perhaps ever. HD Radio may, in fact, disappear due to a variety of market and technology issues.)

So. What does that leave us with? Mobile radio. Internet radio over mobile devices, using mobile broadband (the 2G and 3G networks that carriers have built across the US and around the world) and Wi-Fi in cafes, airports, colleges, and offices. With smartphones, you can listen to Internet radio everywhere. That requires a little digression as to why that’s happened, too.

The increasing number of Americans who buy smartphones drives this trend. A smartphone differs from a standard, so-called "feature" phone (a great euphemism) by having a full-blown operating system that can typically run all manner of programs. Feature phones have far more limited capabilities; they don’t have enough processing oomphf to do much, in fact, although that’s changed a lot in recent years, too.

The iPhone has driven smartphone sales, and the "$99" iPhone 3G pricing—ignoring the $2,000 2-year minimum service contract for voice and data—was the leading edge. But T-Mobile’s G1 and other upcoming phones with the Android operating system (originated by Google), and the Palm Pre continue that trend. Windows Mobile and BlackBerry smartphones sell in great numbers, too, don’t forget.

Mobile Internet radio is a neat pairing with a smartphone, especially one that has a flat-rate mobile data plan, which is most of them. (Carriers limit laptop mobile broadband to 5G per month, and outside the US, most carriers put a strict cap on mobile broadband with huge overage charges. That hasn’t worked here.)

If you visit the App Store—you can use iTunes to do this if you don’t own an iPhone—and search on radio (limited it to Applications in iTunes), you’ll see well over 100 programs that range from generic programs that can play from a huge list of 1,000s of Internet radio stations, to genre apps like Public Radio Tuner, down to individual station’s programs. Many are free. Sirius XM Radio has its own app (free, but requires an existing receiver-based subscription or an Internet-only $12.95/mo. account).

I don’t want to ignore streaming music systems that aren’t programmed like an Internet radio station, either. Systems like Pandora and Last.fm create custom streams based on artist or other interests, making their money via ads. (Outside the US, UK, and Germany, Last.fm had to start recently charging a modest 3 Euros per month fee.) iPhone apps that access those systems are available, and all the radio and music streaming systems will come to other platforms, if they’re not there already.

So let’s put that all together. If you can listen to any station, a conventional broadcaster or specialized custom one, at any time, anywhere, on a device that has digital sound quality, integrates into your car or uses the same headphones you use for listening to other music: Tell me again why you flip on the radio?

This doesn’t spell doom and despair outside the commercial radio market, I should point out. For stations that have non-pabulum fare—which I should also note includes some commercial stations—mobile Internet radio gives them the chance to expand listenership worldwide. KEXP is reportedly one of the leading stations in the US to capitalize on this.

KUOW, a station that graciously has me on nearly weekly to talk tech , was an early public-radio adopter of both Internet streaming (a second streaming station has become KXOT’s main broadcast), HD Radio, and podcasting. Apparently, I have far more listeners to the podcast version of my segments than to when I’m actually being heard over the air.

But for purely commercial Top 40 or major genre stations, I can only quote the mainstay of Classics stations ("playing the best of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s!"):

From the tombs of classic rock, I give you Jim Morrison:

Of our elaborate plans, the end

Of everything that stands, the end

No safety or surprise, the end

I’ll never look into your eyes…again


  • Giffy

    Great article. I think though that the answer to this
    So let’s put that all together. If you can listen to any station, a conventional broadcaster or specialized custom one, at any time, anywhere, on a device that has digital sound quality, integrates into your car or uses the same headphones you use for listening to other music: Tell me again why you flip on the radio?

    Is laziness. I’ll be honest I am not all that into music. I mean I like to have something to listen to, but I don’t really spend a lot of time on it. I just flip on my Sirius radio and drive off. Sure the music is ‘corporate’ but again I am not a huge music person so I don’t really care.

    Maybe someday I’ll set up my iPhone with Pandora or last.fm, but so far it seems like more work than it is worth. I occasionally plug it into the stereo in my car and listen to some mp3s, but that is pretty rare.

    I think there are a lot of people out there for whom music is a very passive thing. We just like a reasonably pleasing sound in a genre we like. That will keep radio in business for a while.

  • Giffy

    Great article. I think though that the answer to this
    So let’s put that all together. If you can listen to any station, a conventional broadcaster or specialized custom one, at any time, anywhere, on a device that has digital sound quality, integrates into your car or uses the same headphones you use for listening to other music: Tell me again why you flip on the radio?

    Is laziness. I’ll be honest I am not all that into music. I mean I like to have something to listen to, but I don’t really spend a lot of time on it. I just flip on my Sirius radio and drive off. Sure the music is ‘corporate’ but again I am not a huge music person so I don’t really care.

    Maybe someday I’ll set up my iPhone with Pandora or last.fm, but so far it seems like more work than it is worth. I occasionally plug it into the stereo in my car and listen to some mp3s, but that is pretty rare.

    I think there are a lot of people out there for whom music is a very passive thing. We just like a reasonably pleasing sound in a genre we like. That will keep radio in business for a while.

  • Giffy

    Great article. I think though that the answer to this
    So let’s put that all together. If you can listen to any station, a conventional broadcaster or specialized custom one, at any time, anywhere, on a device that has digital sound quality, integrates into your car or uses the same headphones you use for listening to other music: Tell me again why you flip on the radio?

    Is laziness. I’ll be honest I am not all that into music. I mean I like to have something to listen to, but I don’t really spend a lot of time on it. I just flip on my Sirius radio and drive off. Sure the music is ‘corporate’ but again I am not a huge music person so I don’t really care.

    Maybe someday I’ll set up my iPhone with Pandora or last.fm, but so far it seems like more work than it is worth. I occasionally plug it into the stereo in my car and listen to some mp3s, but that is pretty rare.

    I think there are a lot of people out there for whom music is a very passive thing. We just like a reasonably pleasing sound in a genre we like. That will keep radio in business for a while.

  • Mike

    Glenn,

    Big fan of your podcast. Glad to see you posting regularly on Publicola too. I think you’re right about the radio. I’ve completely stopped listening and gone to podcasts or music in the car using my iTouch (the only place I ever listed to radio). You, Adam Carolla, KUOW’s Weekday – that fills my relatively short commute (about 30 mins each way). Because I have an iTouch, i use internet radio, usually Pandora, at work. Regular radio can’t touch it.

  • Mike

    Glenn,

    Big fan of your podcast. Glad to see you posting regularly on Publicola too. I think you’re right about the radio. I’ve completely stopped listening and gone to podcasts or music in the car using my iTouch (the only place I ever listed to radio). You, Adam Carolla, KUOW’s Weekday – that fills my relatively short commute (about 30 mins each way). Because I have an iTouch, i use internet radio, usually Pandora, at work. Regular radio can’t touch it.

  • Mike

    Glenn,

    Big fan of your podcast. Glad to see you posting regularly on Publicola too. I think you’re right about the radio. I’ve completely stopped listening and gone to podcasts or music in the car using my iTouch (the only place I ever listed to radio). You, Adam Carolla, KUOW’s Weekday – that fills my relatively short commute (about 30 mins each way). Because I have an iTouch, i use internet radio, usually Pandora, at work. Regular radio can’t touch it.

  • http://ithoughtathink.blogspot.com/ Ryan

    The best internet I can get where I live is through Verizon wireless. Download speeds average about 20 kbps.

    It’s going to be quite some time before we get the internet saturation to be able to have the internet radio saturation that you describe.

  • http://ithoughtathink.blogspot.com/ Ryan

    The best internet I can get where I live is through Verizon wireless. Download speeds average about 20 kbps.

    It’s going to be quite some time before we get the internet saturation to be able to have the internet radio saturation that you describe.

  • http://ithoughtathink.blogspot.com Ryan

    The best internet I can get where I live is through Verizon wireless. Download speeds average about 20 kbps.

    It’s going to be quite some time before we get the internet saturation to be able to have the internet radio saturation that you describe.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    I had written similar things in a class paper last year. I thought a lot about this when I first got my iPhone, and finishing my COM degree.

    I felt like an alien, attempting to descibe this other planet, where the radio is turned inside out, flattened, like the newspaper industry.

    Technology will catch tv in short order.
    Information is not the commodity anymore, connecting is.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    I had written similar things in a class paper last year. I thought a lot about this when I first got my iPhone, and finishing my COM degree.

    I felt like an alien, attempting to descibe this other planet, where the radio is turned inside out, flattened, like the newspaper industry.

    Technology will catch tv in short order.
    Information is not the commodity anymore, connecting is.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    I had written similar things in a class paper last year. I thought a lot about this when I first got my iPhone, and finishing my COM degree.

    I felt like an alien, attempting to descibe this other planet, where the radio is turned inside out, flattened, like the newspaper industry.

    Technology will catch tv in short order.
    Information is not the commodity anymore, connecting is.

  • http://istillloveradio.blogspot.com/2009/07/is-radio-still-good-for-anything.html Feliks

    Provocative piece about the technology aspects. Regarding the content, I wrote about whether or not old-fashioned radio is still good for anything at the I STILL LOVE RADIO blog last week.

  • http://istillloveradio.blogspot.com/2009/07/is-radio-still-good-for-anything.html Feliks

    Provocative piece about the technology aspects. Regarding the content, I wrote about whether or not old-fashioned radio is still good for anything at the I STILL LOVE RADIO blog last week.

  • http://istillloveradio.blogspot.com/2009/07/is-radio-still-good-for-anything.html Feliks

    Provocative piece about the technology aspects. Regarding the content, I wrote about whether or not old-fashioned radio is still good for anything at the I STILL LOVE RADIO blog last week.

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    And I just tapped a story on my iPhone about my strange desire to have text-to-speech controlled by Voice Control on my iPhone so I could have my text content read to me while I do something else with my eyes, like drive.

    http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/2009/07/publicolacom-internet-killed-radio-star.html

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    And I just tapped a story on my iPhone about my strange desire to have text-to-speech controlled by Voice Control on my iPhone so I could have my text content read to me while I do something else with my eyes, like drive.

    http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/2009/07/publicolacom-internet-killed-radio-star.html

  • http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ Mr. Baker

    And I just tapped a story on my iPhone about my strange desire to have text-to-speech controlled by Voice Control on my iPhone so I could have my text content read to me while I do something else with my eyes, like drive.

    http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/2009/07/publicolacom-internet-killed-radio-star.html

  • Greg in Seattle

    Well, interesting, but all you did was point out all the new tech in delivery, not the death of broadcasting.

    As I recall my notes from 101… The term broadcasting is a farming term, from spreading seeds. 5,000 years later, we still use seeds, even if mutated, but how that seed is sown is very different.

    Giffy called it when he pointed out he is lazy. Lazy might be some of the issue, but there is more to it than that. I wonder how may of the 300 million folks out there will have the time and patience to cut their own program of their favorite audio for their use.

    It is no different than all the types of food available at the store, yet we still choose to pay others to cook and serve it, either through a drive up window, or on linen with a wine steward.

    Commercial broadcasters have adapted over time. In the late 20s, Broadcasting was underwritten to sell radios. WLS, Worlds Largest Store sold radios. KDKA did the same. When long programs with sponsors were lost to TV, Radio adapted with shorter programming. Pre recorded music, short bits of news, conversation and so on. Cassette recorders led to stations urging folks to tune in at specific times for a once only airing of something special. Now it’s podcasts, and live on the internet.

    Broadcasting is NOT about private programming to one, but to numbers of similarly interested folks. Regardless of if they tune in by iphone, on line, or on FM or AM or HD… it is the offering of something of interest to a community of like minded listeners. Until we lose the concept of doing things as a group, radio will just continue to morph. The big issue is creating measurable metrics so as to quantify it to those paying for it.

    Offering something to the first 100 to respond still works after all these years… ipod, iphone, i called it in. Some clever programmer will create a metric acceptable to sponsors, and the story continues…

    For the last 20 years commercial folks have had to learn to sell smaller but more focused targets. The fractions will just be smaller, but for many, no less valuable to reach.

  • Greg in Seattle

    Well, interesting, but all you did was point out all the new tech in delivery, not the death of broadcasting.

    As I recall my notes from 101… The term broadcasting is a farming term, from spreading seeds. 5,000 years later, we still use seeds, even if mutated, but how that seed is sown is very different.

    Giffy called it when he pointed out he is lazy. Lazy might be some of the issue, but there is more to it than that. I wonder how may of the 300 million folks out there will have the time and patience to cut their own program of their favorite audio for their use.

    It is no different than all the types of food available at the store, yet we still choose to pay others to cook and serve it, either through a drive up window, or on linen with a wine steward.

    Commercial broadcasters have adapted over time. In the late 20s, Broadcasting was underwritten to sell radios. WLS, Worlds Largest Store sold radios. KDKA did the same. When long programs with sponsors were lost to TV, Radio adapted with shorter programming. Pre recorded music, short bits of news, conversation and so on. Cassette recorders led to stations urging folks to tune in at specific times for a once only airing of something special. Now it’s podcasts, and live on the internet.

    Broadcasting is NOT about private programming to one, but to numbers of similarly interested folks. Regardless of if they tune in by iphone, on line, or on FM or AM or HD… it is the offering of something of interest to a community of like minded listeners. Until we lose the concept of doing things as a group, radio will just continue to morph. The big issue is creating measurable metrics so as to quantify it to those paying for it.

    Offering something to the first 100 to respond still works after all these years… ipod, iphone, i called it in. Some clever programmer will create a metric acceptable to sponsors, and the story continues…

    For the last 20 years commercial folks have had to learn to sell smaller but more focused targets. The fractions will just be smaller, but for many, no less valuable to reach.

  • Greg in Seattle

    Well, interesting, but all you did was point out all the new tech in delivery, not the death of broadcasting.

    As I recall my notes from 101… The term broadcasting is a farming term, from spreading seeds. 5,000 years later, we still use seeds, even if mutated, but how that seed is sown is very different.

    Giffy called it when he pointed out he is lazy. Lazy might be some of the issue, but there is more to it than that. I wonder how may of the 300 million folks out there will have the time and patience to cut their own program of their favorite audio for their use.

    It is no different than all the types of food available at the store, yet we still choose to pay others to cook and serve it, either through a drive up window, or on linen with a wine steward.

    Commercial broadcasters have adapted over time. In the late 20s, Broadcasting was underwritten to sell radios. WLS, Worlds Largest Store sold radios. KDKA did the same. When long programs with sponsors were lost to TV, Radio adapted with shorter programming. Pre recorded music, short bits of news, conversation and so on. Cassette recorders led to stations urging folks to tune in at specific times for a once only airing of something special. Now it’s podcasts, and live on the internet.

    Broadcasting is NOT about private programming to one, but to numbers of similarly interested folks. Regardless of if they tune in by iphone, on line, or on FM or AM or HD… it is the offering of something of interest to a community of like minded listeners. Until we lose the concept of doing things as a group, radio will just continue to morph. The big issue is creating measurable metrics so as to quantify it to those paying for it.

    Offering something to the first 100 to respond still works after all these years… ipod, iphone, i called it in. Some clever programmer will create a metric acceptable to sponsors, and the story continues…

    For the last 20 years commercial folks have had to learn to sell smaller but more focused targets. The fractions will just be smaller, but for many, no less valuable to reach.

  • Glenn Fleishman

    “The best internet I can get where I live is through Verizon wireless. Download speeds average about 20 kbps. It’s going to be quite some time before we get the internet saturation to be able to have the internet radio saturation that you describe.”

    Verizon is planning an aggressively deploying a new cell network in the 700 MHz band, signals in which band travel far, and Verizon won a big hunk nationally. AT&T and Verizon also have lots of scattered licenses that combine to a separate national footprint.

    This new band will be used in part to reach audiences that can’t get broadband today. I don’t know what usage will cost, but Verizon wants every human being in this country to be paying them recurring fees, and unserved and underserved audiences are ripe for the picking — satellite Internet is the only alternative, it’s slow, it’s very expensive (makes cell data seem cheap), and it’s not mobile.

  • Glenn Fleishman

    “The best internet I can get where I live is through Verizon wireless. Download speeds average about 20 kbps. It’s going to be quite some time before we get the internet saturation to be able to have the internet radio saturation that you describe.”

    Verizon is planning an aggressively deploying a new cell network in the 700 MHz band, signals in which band travel far, and Verizon won a big hunk nationally. AT&T and Verizon also have lots of scattered licenses that combine to a separate national footprint.

    This new band will be used in part to reach audiences that can’t get broadband today. I don’t know what usage will cost, but Verizon wants every human being in this country to be paying them recurring fees, and unserved and underserved audiences are ripe for the picking — satellite Internet is the only alternative, it’s slow, it’s very expensive (makes cell data seem cheap), and it’s not mobile.

  • Glenn Fleishman

    “The best internet I can get where I live is through Verizon wireless. Download speeds average about 20 kbps. It’s going to be quite some time before we get the internet saturation to be able to have the internet radio saturation that you describe.”

    Verizon is planning an aggressively deploying a new cell network in the 700 MHz band, signals in which band travel far, and Verizon won a big hunk nationally. AT&T and Verizon also have lots of scattered licenses that combine to a separate national footprint.

    This new band will be used in part to reach audiences that can’t get broadband today. I don’t know what usage will cost, but Verizon wants every human being in this country to be paying them recurring fees, and unserved and underserved audiences are ripe for the picking — satellite Internet is the only alternative, it’s slow, it’s very expensive (makes cell data seem cheap), and it’s not mobile.

  • Glenn Fleishman

    @7: “Giffy called it when he pointed out he is lazy. Lazy might be some of the issue, but there is more to it than that. I wonder how may of the 300 million folks out there will have the time and patience to cut their own program of their favorite audio for their use.”

    I’m not sure you read the piece through. My point isn’t that people will create their own channels, but that there will be many alternatives, including Internet radio (which is still broadcasting, just over broadband), self-assembled stuff (like Pandora, Last.fm, which requires nearly no effort), and other systems.

    It’s not the death of broadcast. I’m talking specifically about commercial radio.

  • Glenn Fleishman

    @7: “Giffy called it when he pointed out he is lazy. Lazy might be some of the issue, but there is more to it than that. I wonder how may of the 300 million folks out there will have the time and patience to cut their own program of their favorite audio for their use.”

    I’m not sure you read the piece through. My point isn’t that people will create their own channels, but that there will be many alternatives, including Internet radio (which is still broadcasting, just over broadband), self-assembled stuff (like Pandora, Last.fm, which requires nearly no effort), and other systems.

    It’s not the death of broadcast. I’m talking specifically about commercial radio.

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    APPLE iPHONE 16GB ……………………. €150Euro
    APPLE iPHONE 3G 16GB ( Black or White )…..€170Euro
    APPLE iPHONE 3Gs 16GB ( Black or White )…..€2000Euro
    APPLE iPHONE 3Gs 32GB ( Black or White )…..€250Euro

    ================================================== ======================
    NOKIA LIST:
    NOKIA N97 32GB ………………………. €200Euro
    NOKIA N96 (16GB) Smartphone …………… €150Euro
    NOKIA N95 (8GB)……………………… €110Euro
    NOKIA E90 ………………………….. €150Euro
    NOKIA N95 …………………………… €100Euro
    NOKIA 8800…………………………… €100Euro
    NOKIA 8800 SIROCCO……………………. €130Euro
    NOKIA 8800 SAPHHIRE ARTE ……………… €150Euro
    NOKIA AEON ………………………….. €150Euro

    ===================== ======================

    Blackberry Storm 9530———–€200Euro
    Blackberry Storm 9500———–€200Euro
    Blackberry Bold 9000———–€200Euro
    Blackberry Pearl Flip 8220——€200Euro
    Blackberry Curve 8320———–€200Euro
    Blackberry Curve 8310———–€200Euro
    BlackBerry 8800 “indigo” (released)–€200Euro
    BlackBerry 8700g———————–€200Euro
    Cingular BlackBerry Pearl 8100 (released)—€200Euro

  • Hennesburg Cole

    Buy Brand New Sealed Apple i Phone 3g s 32gb, Nokia N900

    ELECTRONICS & COMPUTERS STORE LIMITED IS A REGISTERED AND LICENSED COMPANY
    FOR SALES OF ELECTRONICS WORLWIDE…
    LOCATED AT :: JUSTIN PLAZA 3, 341 LONDON ROAD, MITCHAM, SURREY, CR4 4BE
    REGISTERED NUMBER:.05530524
    Incorporation Date: 08-08-2005

    MINIMUM ORDER QUANTITY (MOQ) ARE BELOW ::
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    BUY 7 UNITS GET 3 UNITS FREE !!!
    BUY 5 UNITS GET 2 UNITS FREE !!!
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    WHY BUY FROM US
    * Your privacy is assured
    * Our prices are second to none
    * Secure transaction guaranteed
    * We ship Monday through Saturday.
    * Free shipping on qualified orders
    * We offer reasonable discount on bulk purchases
    * We ship same day after confirmation of payment.
    * We offer a 30 day return policy and a 100% money back guarantee.

    Company Phone Number:::: (+44)-702-405-1545

    Specifications :

    General :
    2G Network : GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network : HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

    Size :
    Dimensions : 115.5 x 62.1 x 12.3 mm
    Weight : 135 g

    Display :
    Type : TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
    Size : 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
    - Multi-touch input method
    - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
    - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
    - Scratch-resistant surface
    Sound :
    Alert types : Vibration; Downloadable polyphonic, MP3 ringtones
    Speakerphone : Yes
    - 3.5 mm headset jack

    Memory :
    Phonebook : Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records : 100 received, dialed and missed calls
    Internal : 16 GB/ 32 GB storage, 256 MB RAM
    Card slot : No

    Data :
    GPRS : Yes
    HSCSD : No
    EDGE : Yes
    3G : HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps
    WLAN : Wi-Fi 802.11b/g
    Bluetooth : Yes, v2.1 with A2DP, headset support only
    Infrared port : No
    USB : Yes, v2.0

    Camera :
    Primary : 3.15 MP, 2048×1536 pixels, autofocus
    Features : Touch focus, geo-tagging
    Video : Yes, VGA@30fps, video geo-tagging
    Secondary : No

    Features :
    OS : iPhone OS (based on Mac OS)
    CPU : ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX graphics
    Messaging : SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email
    Browser : HTML (Safari)
    Radio : No
    Games : Downloadable, incl. motion-based
    Colors : Black, White
    GPS : Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java : No
    - Digital compass
    - Google Maps
    - Audio/video player
    - TV-out
    - Voice command/dial

    Battery : Standard battery, Li-Ion
    Stand-by : Up to 300 h
    Talk time : Up to 12 h (2G) / Up to 5 h (3G)
    Music play : Up to 30 h

    KINDLY PLACE YOUR ORDER IN THE BELOW MANNER SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED ON
    PACKAGING AND LABELING IMMEDIATELY

    FULL NAME ::
    PRODUCTS BRAND AND MODEL ::
    QUANTITY ::
    ADDRESS ::
    CITY ::
    ZIP CODE ::
    COUNTRY ::
    MOBILE/TELEPHONE NUMBER :

    Email: Email:newiphone123@hotmail.com

    Cheers..

    Management…

  • Hennesburg Cole

    Buy Brand New Sealed Apple i Phone 3g s 32gb, Nokia N900

    ELECTRONICS & COMPUTERS STORE LIMITED IS A REGISTERED AND LICENSED COMPANY
    FOR SALES OF ELECTRONICS WORLWIDE…
    LOCATED AT :: JUSTIN PLAZA 3, 341 LONDON ROAD, MITCHAM, SURREY, CR4 4BE
    REGISTERED NUMBER:.05530524
    Incorporation Date: 08-08-2005

    MINIMUM ORDER QUANTITY (MOQ) ARE BELOW ::
    BUY 10 UNITS GET 4 UNITS FREE !!!
    BUY 7 UNITS GET 3 UNITS FREE !!!
    BUY 5 UNITS GET 2 UNITS FREE !!!
    BUY 3 UNITS GET 1 UNIT FREE !!!

    WHY BUY FROM US
    * Your privacy is assured
    * Our prices are second to none
    * Secure transaction guaranteed
    * We ship Monday through Saturday.
    * Free shipping on qualified orders
    * We offer reasonable discount on bulk purchases
    * We ship same day after confirmation of payment.
    * We offer a 30 day return policy and a 100% money back guarantee.

    Company Phone Number:::: (+44)-702-405-1545

    Specifications :

    General :
    2G Network : GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network : HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

    Size :
    Dimensions : 115.5 x 62.1 x 12.3 mm
    Weight : 135 g

    Display :
    Type : TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
    Size : 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
    - Multi-touch input method
    - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
    - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
    - Scratch-resistant surface
    Sound :
    Alert types : Vibration; Downloadable polyphonic, MP3 ringtones
    Speakerphone : Yes
    - 3.5 mm headset jack

    Memory :
    Phonebook : Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records : 100 received, dialed and missed calls
    Internal : 16 GB/ 32 GB storage, 256 MB RAM
    Card slot : No

    Data :
    GPRS : Yes
    HSCSD : No
    EDGE : Yes
    3G : HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps
    WLAN : Wi-Fi 802.11b/g
    Bluetooth : Yes, v2.1 with A2DP, headset support only
    Infrared port : No
    USB : Yes, v2.0

    Camera :
    Primary : 3.15 MP, 2048×1536 pixels, autofocus
    Features : Touch focus, geo-tagging
    Video : Yes, VGA@30fps, video geo-tagging
    Secondary : No

    Features :
    OS : iPhone OS (based on Mac OS)
    CPU : ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX graphics
    Messaging : SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email
    Browser : HTML (Safari)
    Radio : No
    Games : Downloadable, incl. motion-based
    Colors : Black, White
    GPS : Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java : No
    - Digital compass
    - Google Maps
    - Audio/video player
    - TV-out
    - Voice command/dial

    Battery : Standard battery, Li-Ion
    Stand-by : Up to 300 h
    Talk time : Up to 12 h (2G) / Up to 5 h (3G)
    Music play : Up to 30 h

    KINDLY PLACE YOUR ORDER IN THE BELOW MANNER SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED ON
    PACKAGING AND LABELING IMMEDIATELY

    FULL NAME ::
    PRODUCTS BRAND AND MODEL ::
    QUANTITY ::
    ADDRESS ::
    CITY ::
    ZIP CODE ::
    COUNTRY ::
    MOBILE/TELEPHONE NUMBER :

    Email: Email:newiphone123@hotmail.com

    Cheers..

    Management…

  • Hennesburg Cole

    Buy Brand New Sealed Apple i Phone 3g s 32gb, Nokia N900

    ELECTRONICS & COMPUTERS STORE LIMITED IS A REGISTERED AND LICENSED COMPANY
    FOR SALES OF ELECTRONICS WORLWIDE…
    LOCATED AT :: JUSTIN PLAZA 3, 341 LONDON ROAD, MITCHAM, SURREY, CR4 4BE
    REGISTERED NUMBER:.05530524
    Incorporation Date: 08-08-2005

    MINIMUM ORDER QUANTITY (MOQ) ARE BELOW ::
    BUY 10 UNITS GET 4 UNITS FREE !!!
    BUY 7 UNITS GET 3 UNITS FREE !!!
    BUY 5 UNITS GET 2 UNITS FREE !!!
    BUY 3 UNITS GET 1 UNIT FREE !!!

    WHY BUY FROM US
    * Your privacy is assured
    * Our prices are second to none
    * Secure transaction guaranteed
    * We ship Monday through Saturday.
    * Free shipping on qualified orders
    * We offer reasonable discount on bulk purchases
    * We ship same day after confirmation of payment.
    * We offer a 30 day return policy and a 100% money back guarantee.

    Company Phone Number:::: (+44)-702-405-1545

    Specifications :

    General :
    2G Network : GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network : HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

    Size :
    Dimensions : 115.5 x 62.1 x 12.3 mm
    Weight : 135 g

    Display :
    Type : TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
    Size : 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
    - Multi-touch input method
    - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
    - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
    - Scratch-resistant surface
    Sound :
    Alert types : Vibration; Downloadable polyphonic, MP3 ringtones
    Speakerphone : Yes
    - 3.5 mm headset jack

    Memory :
    Phonebook : Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records : 100 received, dialed and missed calls
    Internal : 16 GB/ 32 GB storage, 256 MB RAM
    Card slot : No

    Data :
    GPRS : Yes
    HSCSD : No
    EDGE : Yes
    3G : HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps
    WLAN : Wi-Fi 802.11b/g
    Bluetooth : Yes, v2.1 with A2DP, headset support only
    Infrared port : No
    USB : Yes, v2.0

    Camera :
    Primary : 3.15 MP, 2048×1536 pixels, autofocus
    Features : Touch focus, geo-tagging
    Video : Yes, VGA@30fps, video geo-tagging
    Secondary : No

    Features :
    OS : iPhone OS (based on Mac OS)
    CPU : ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX graphics
    Messaging : SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email
    Browser : HTML (Safari)
    Radio : No
    Games : Downloadable, incl. motion-based
    Colors : Black, White
    GPS : Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java : No
    - Digital compass
    - Google Maps
    - Audio/video player
    - TV-out
    - Voice command/dial

    Battery : Standard battery, Li-Ion
    Stand-by : Up to 300 h
    Talk time : Up to 12 h (2G) / Up to 5 h (3G)
    Music play : Up to 30 h

    KINDLY PLACE YOUR ORDER IN THE BELOW MANNER SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED ON
    PACKAGING AND LABELING IMMEDIATELY

    FULL NAME ::
    PRODUCTS BRAND AND MODEL ::
    QUANTITY ::
    ADDRESS ::
    CITY ::
    ZIP CODE ::
    COUNTRY ::
    MOBILE/TELEPHONE NUMBER :

    Email: Email:newiphone123@hotmail.com

    Cheers..

    Management…

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    Description

    Apple iPhone 4 is the fourth-generation of iphone and comes with a new slimmer design and front-facing camera capable of video calling. apple also updated the display with a high-resolution screen that measures 960 x 640 pixels. It also features a 5 megapixel camera with an LED flash and HD video recording. The front facing camera uses an application called facetime to make video calls over wifi.

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    ======================

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    1 Charger
    1 Stereo Handsfree
    1 User's Guide

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